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20 Year old Woman Dies at Playa del Carmen Resort

Discussion in 'Mexico Timesharing' started by davidvel, Jul 17, 2017 at 2:35 PM.

  1. davidvel

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    Abbey Conner, 20, drowned in January while swimming with her brother, Austin Conner, 23, in chest-deep water at the pool in the Iberostar Paraiso Resort.
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    The hotel told the family that the two were found unconscious and facedown in the pool, according to Bill Conner. Austin Conner suffered a concussion, and Abbey Conner sustained a broken collarbone and was brain dead before succumbing to her injuries in a Florida hospital days later.
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    Austin Conner said they had been drinking before their swim, and their blood alcohol level was around 0.25
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    ABC NEWS STORY
    The resort said there are no video cameras. Weren't there other guests at the pool?
     
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    How do you get a concussion in a pool? Trying to do a cannonball way to close to the edge?


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  3. DeniseM

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    You dive into a shallow pool and hit your head.
     
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    And when you're drunk (0.25% BAC! OMG!), judgement goes right out the window. Sad, but completely preventable.

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    He jumped or dove on top of her. Breaking her collarbone and giving him a concussion.
    Collision between the 2 of them.
    Not saying that's it. But would explain what happened
     
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    The most likely way to get a consussion in a pool is to dive into water too shallow for the dive. But you could also just bang your head against the pool wall while playing around. It's possible to get a concussion from falling hard onto your tailbone too though that's less likely in a pool.


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    ... or maybe they were both murdered... that's from one who just watched a marathon of Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries on Netflix...
     
  8. davidvel

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    Please all PM me with your details. I'm in need of a forensic human factors injury expert. You all seem to fit the bill.
     
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    :clap::clap::clap:
     
  10. easyrider

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    Swimming or doing anything with a blood alcohol level of .25 is kind of dangerous. In contrast, one tourist accidentally dies in Hawaii every day, mostly from drunken drowning. Im not seeing this as anything nefarious. If you are trying to suggest more American tourists are harmed in Mexico you would be wrong. Hawaii , a small state has the entire country of Mexico beat regarding accidental deaths of Americans.

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    Where are you getting those facts?
     
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    Actually, it's an average of one per week from all tourist activities:
    http://www.insideedition.com/headli...wnings-on-the-rise-in-hawaii-tourist-hotspots

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hawaii-tourist-deaths_us_572d512fe4b096e9f09197c9

    http://www.civilbeat.org/2016/01/de...r-visitors-to-hawaii/?cbk=56834b63529f3&cbs=1
     
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    Guess that explains why every-time I am on vacation in Hawaii i see at least one news story about some tourist being seriously hurt or killed.
     
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    Yes - but "1 per day" is an exaggeration by a factor of 7x.

    I frequently see visitors in Hawaii who seem to have poor survival instincts.
     
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    Thanks, Denise, for posting these links. My husband and I traveled to Hawaii (Oahu and Kauai) a few years ago. We had absolutely no idea of the dangers (rogue waves, strong currents) posed by the waters at the beaches and only learned about them from reading on TUG. Fortunately (!), we are not big into water sports preferring to do our swimming in the pools. I think all tourists should be handed warning brochures while still on the plane en route to Hawaii.
     
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    The bro - sis Cancun story is tragic and the subsequent investigation seems sketchy but Mexico typical. So the girl "at 130 pounds would have to drink about seven shots in one hour to have a level that high." Lets not forget they're on vacation with their parents not other age related companions. Lousy for the parents that no one knows or saw anything.

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...ughters-mysterious-drowning-mexico/469647001/
     
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    Not sure where the reporter got those numbers. Per CA DMV, 5 standard shots could lead to that level. The son said they had 5-6 shots, but also that he lacked recollection of the events. They may have been larger or stronger than a standard shot. As much as they drank, it is possible they also drank on the plane, or on the ride to the hotel.

    They certainly drank a lot in a short time.

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    Source: CA DMV
     
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    The one tourist death rate in the articles about Hawaii only includes tourists that died accidentally. This one tourist a week doesn't include all deaths of tourists in Hawaii and I doubt that that is accurate. The average accidental drowning rate from 2008 - 2012 was 68 a year.

    Then add in all of the injuries that tourists suffer each year and it looks like Hawaii is a very dangerous place. Falling is the number one cause of injury in Hawaii.

    http://health.hawaii.gov/injuryprev...ing-Conf.-Visitor-Safety-How-are-we-doing.pdf
     
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    Your chart says that 68 died from injuries - not just from drowning - drowning is included in the number 68.

    But you said that one tourist dies every day - that's 365 tourists. So if 68 die accidentally, how did the other 297 die???

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    Old Age ?

    None of us live forever .

    *******
    Tragic Story
     
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    Other than accidentally would be any thing other than an accident is my guess. Suicide is very popular in Hawaii. Hawaii is in the top ten states regarding people committing suicide. It was number 1 until recently. Overdose in Hawaii out ranks auto accidents regarding deaths in Hawaii. Many tourists are over 60.

    While it is tragic that two young people drank too much and died at a resort it doesn't mean anything nefarious happened. It was bad judgement on the kids and even more so on the parents for letting the kids get wasted, imo.

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    Yes, exactly - you are guessing, because your evidence does not support your claims of 365 tourist death a year. There weren't even 365 tourist deaths in 5 years:
     

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    BTW - I am not implying anything nefarious because the original accident occured in Mexico, and I don't think anyone else is either, but it is a rather odd situation.
     
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    Please Bill, stop......


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    Nothing odd about it at all. We have vacationed extensively in Mexico at Mazatlán, Puerto Vallarta, Nuevo Vallarta, Cancun, Riviera Maya etc, and we also lived in Mexico. Drunk tourists are pretty common and I mean falling down drunk especially around the swimming pools. We have seen many get pretty badly hurt. We have not seen the same thing in Hawaii.
     

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