Marriott Rewards Elite Status now based on DC membership / effective 2/15/17

[icydog]

Well, now that there are more of us, not as often. :ignore:

I usually get a room view upgrade (corner room, higher floor etc.., but a few times I've actually received a major upgrade. Just recently I arrived VERY late at the Cosmopolitan and found out upon arrival that the hotel was sold out. I paid for a Bellagio view room and had hoped for an upgrade to a premium Bellagio view using my status. When I got there they tried to put me in a lower tier Bellagio view room instead. I insisted that I had hoped to be upgraded, not downgraded in that Bellagio view category. I also reminded them that I was a very long term Gold Elite member and that the room they issued me was not acceptable. They made me wait for a minute or two and came back with a major upgrade to a 900sf 2-bath suite that was front and center with an amazing view.

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Omg lucky you! But it shows you have to know the rules and be your own advocate. Good job!

 

[michael49]

-- Points don't have anything to do with Marriott Elite levels. I could have a million MRP and still have no status. For example I could trade one of my timeshare for 120,000 MRP. Those points would not increase or decrease my elite level. However, you need to have/had a million MRP to be Gold Elite (or maybe that's platinum, I forget) --

I think we are talking about lifetime status and points are 1/2 of the equation needed, along with nights, so points have a lot to do with Marriott (lifetime) elite levels.

 

[Safti]

MR Status now also seems to be based on MVC status. Has anyone else seen that? I saw it mentioned on FB. Top ownership tiers get platinum or gold MR status. Is this new or have I never seen it before?

I don't have Facebook so can't see this. Can I find this information anyplace else?

 

[dioxide45]

I don't have Facebook so can't see this. Can I find this information anyplace else?

See the attachment in post #2. You can also see the details if you log on to marriottvacationclub.com.

 

[Safti]

See the attachment in post #2. You can also see the details if you log on to marriottvacationclub.com.

I logged into MVC and don't know where to look on the site.

 

[thinze3]

I logged into MVC and don't know where to look on the site.

Look here on MVC.
https://owners.marriottvacationclub.com/timeshare/mvco/mi-starwood-merger

or here on Tug
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2820&d=1474921775

 

[Safti]

Look here on MVC.
https://owners.marriottvacationclub.com/timeshare/mvco/mi-starwood-merger

or here on Tug
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2820&d=1474921775

Thanks. Error on MVC website so can't see anything there. I did see post #2 from FB. I chatted with MVC rep tonight. She said that this begins Feb. 2017.

 

[dioxide45]

Thanks. Error on MVC website so can't see anything there. I did see post #2 from FB. I chatted with MVC rep tonight. She said that this begins Feb. 2017.

I think the date in the title of the thread should be updated. It seems that they are updating status in the next year that Marriott Rewards uses for their "status year".

 

[BocaBoy]

So my friends who bought MGV platinum directly from Marriott have no elite status in Marriott Rewards but a SPG member who bought a week directly from Starwood gets to be Marriott Rewards Gold? How is this fair?

It is not fair, which I think is why this change is now being made to Marriott Rewards.

 

[dioxide45]

It is not fair, which I think is why this change is now being made to Marriott Rewards.

One still needs 4000 points to make Select owner to get Gold Elite MR status. So even that direct Grande Vista owner wouldn't be MR Gold Elite. Though any Vistana direct owner would be given the status in the new merged programs.

 

[jeepie]

Lifetime Status requirements

-- Points don't have anything to do with Marriott Elite levels. I could have a million MRP and still have no status. For example I could trade one of my timeshare for 120,000 MRP. Those points would not increase or decrease my elite level. However, you need to have/had a million MRP to be Gold Elite (or maybe that's platinum, I forget) --

I think we are talking about lifetime status and points are 1/2 of the equation needed, along with nights, so points have a lot to do with Marriott (lifetime) elite levels.

http://www.marriott.com/marriott-rewards/member-benefits/lifetime-status.mi
Cheers.

 

[icydog]

One still needs 4000 points to make Select owner to get Gold Elite MR status. So even that direct Grande Vista owner wouldn't be MR Gold Elite. Though any Vistana direct owner would be given the status in the new merged programs.

Yep, this is EXACTLY what I meant!

 

[icydog]

What do you mean by that? With Vistana, do you associate your SPG account with your ownership through SPG or through Vistana.com? With Marriott, your MR# is attached to your ownership profile on the marriottvacatinclub website. It would be interesting to see how they implement this for MR. Does it apply to all on the deed or only the primary?

VAC had no choice but to do this. As of last week all Vistana owners that bought direct were automatically gold in Marriott Rewards as long as they linked their accounts. While the same didn't apply to Marriott owners.

I think this is very important for the members of MVCI. Elite Status is given to every Vistana owner when they purchase directly from Starwood. However, Elite Status is not given to every MVCI owner when they purchase directly from Marriott. Therefore, all Vistana Owners who purchased directly from Starwood and are Gold Elite because of that purchase, and because of the reciprocal transfer of status from Starwood Gold Elite to Marriott Gold Elite, these owners will now be Gold Elite with Marriott! However, the converse does not hold true. Marriott Vacation Club owners who purchased directly from MVCI will have no status with Marriott or Starwood!

 

[thinze3]

I think this is very important for the members of MVCI. Elite Status is given to every Vistana owner when they purchase directly from Starwood. However, Elite Status is not given to every MVCI owner when they purchase directly from Marriott. Therefore, all Vistana Owners who purchased directly from Starwood and are Gold Elite because of that purchase, and because of the reciprocal transfer of status from Starwood Gold Elite to Marriott Gold Elite, these owners will now be Gold Elite with Marriott! However, the converse does not hold true. Marriott Vacation Club owners who purchased directly from MVCI will have no status with Marriott or Starwood!

Probably had no choice but to do what was rightfully offered those Vistana owners.
About all they can now do is stop granting Marriott Gold status to all future direct purchasers of a Vistana properties. I would rather them do this than offer Marriott direct purchasers Gold status. The numbers would be too great and dilute the system even more.

 

[BocaBoy]

.....you need to have/had a million MRP to be Gold Elite (or maybe that's platinum, I forget)

1.6 million for Lifetime Gold Elite and 2 million for Lifetime Platinum Elite, in addition to the nights requirement.

 

[ilene13]

We are lifetime gold with plenty of MRP to be platinum elite.

Points don't have anything to do with Marriott Elite levels. I could have a million MRP and still have no status. For example I could trade one of my timeshare for 120,000 MRP. Those points would not increase or decrease my elite level. However, you need to have/had a million MRP to be Gold Elite (or maybe that's platinum, I forget

You have to have 750 nights and 2,000,000 MRP to be lifetime platinum. As MR members we have had 3.5 million MRP but only 500+ nights. That's why we are not lifetime platinum. Now we will be. So yes the MRP do matter.

 

[bazzap]

We are lifetime gold with plenty of MRP to be platinum elite.

Points don't have anything to do with Marriott Elite levels. I could have a million MRP and still have no status. For example I could trade one of my timeshare for 120,000 MRP. Those points would not increase or decrease my elite level. However, you need to have/had a million MRP to be Gold Elite (or maybe that's platinum, I forget

You have to have 750 nights and 2,000,000 MRP to be lifetime platinum. As MR members we have had 3.5 million MRP but only 500+ nights. That's why we are not lifetime platinum. Now we will be. So yes the MRP do matter.

You will be MR Platinum Elite status as a Chairman's Club Owner, but only a lifetime member provided you retain your MVC ownership for life and they don't change these rules or the Ownership levels and benefits.
It is certainly a good benefit though, so let's hope it does continue for life.

 

[michael49]

Actually that wasn't from my post, but you are, of course, correct in providing the exact point requirements.

 

[NJDave]

Looks like Gold Elite status just got diluted.

We will both gold with Marriott and SPG since both of our names are on the deed so I am glad about the dilution.:whoopie:

We both have gold status with Hilton and Platinum with IHG (both through credit cards). Gold status may be diluted by credit cards and cross honoring (such as with airlines) but we still get some nice upgrades.

 

[NJDave]

Well, now that there are more of us, not as often. :ignore:

I usually get a room view upgrade (corner room, higher floor etc.., but a few times I've actually received a major upgrade. Just recently I arrived VERY late at the Cosmopolitan and found out upon arrival that the hotel was sold out. I paid for a Bellagio view room and had hoped for an upgrade to a premium Bellagio view using my status. When I got there they tried to put me in a lower tier Bellagio view room instead. I insisted that I had hoped to be upgraded, not downgraded in that Bellagio view category. I also reminded them that I was a very long term Gold Elite member and that the room they issued me was not acceptable. They made me wait for a minute or two and came back with a major upgrade to a 900sf 2-bath suite that was front and center with an amazing view.

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We stayed in a similar room. We were at a seminar and was booked into the lowest level room (which was paid by the sponsor of the seminar). Cosmopolitan offered us an upgrade but asked for $40 per night since the upgrade was to the premium room. I was gold at that time. Since Cosmopolitan was prepared to put us in the room that we booked, I paid the $40. It was well worth it. Others at the seminar did get the standard view if they didn't pay.

 

[dioxide45]

We will both gold with Marriott and SPG since both of our names are on the deed so I am glad about the dilution.:whoopie:

We both have gold status with Hilton and Platinum with IHG (both through credit cards). Gold status may be diluted by credit cards and cross honoring (such as with airlines) but we still get some nice upgrades.

I don't think we know that is how it will work. Do all owners on the deeds get status, or only the one listed as primary. We may not know until February. DW will lose her gold status in February, but if she retains it, it will be because of ownership status only.

 

[ilene13]

You will be MR Platinum Elite status as a Chairman's Club Owner, but only a lifetime member provided you retain your MVC ownership for life and they don't change these rules or the Ownership levels and benefits.
It is certainly a good benefit though, so let's hope it does continue for life.

If it only works for a few years we will be lifetime platinum

 

[wvacations]

We are lifetime gold with plenty of MRP to be platinum elite.

Points don't have anything to do with Marriott Elite levels. I could have a million MRP and still have no status. For example I could trade one of my timeshare for 120,000 MRP. Those points would not increase or decrease my elite level. However, you need to have/had a million MRP to be Gold Elite (or maybe that's platinum, I forget)

If all the timeshare stays had counted we would have been lifetime platinum years ago. Yes, you're absolutely correct on that. Every timeshare night counts toward your elite levels. That's why so many of us are Platinum Elite

Points earned DO have an effect on lifetime status with Marriott Rewards. Lifetime status is granted on a combination of lifetime nights and lifetime points earned. You must meet both requirements for lifetime status. I don't remember the thresholds for each level.

 

[Ann in CA]

I don't think we know that is how it will work. Do all owners on the deeds get status, or only the one listed as primary. We may not know until February. DW will lose her gold status in February, but if she retains it, it will be because of ownership status only.

Only the primary owner gets the status...as long as the qualifying level is maintained. We just attended a presentation at Waiohai and spent most of the time on the new rules. Accounts were linked right there and showed up instantly. So since I have put almost all our points into my husbands account as primary owner, he stays Platinum forever, but I'll still have to requalify for gold every year. However, the status stays with the ownership, so our ownership in a family trust will retain the Platium level and whoever becomes the the primary owner will assume that Platium status. So if anything happens to the current primary owner, the spouse or a beneficiary who becomes "primary" owner will retain that status as long as the ownership remains at the level (Executive, etc.) at which the status was earned.

 

[catharsis]

Just to confirm lifetime thresholds are

250nights & 1.2 million points = lifetime silver.
500 nights and 1.6 million points=lifetime gold
750 nights and 2 million points= lifetime platinum.



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