Vacation Village VIP presentation bsbb

[greenfit]

We are owners at Vacation Village, had a nice lunch at Columbia then off to THE presentation. WE got a new pitch = Vacation Village VIP. The usual flurry of numbers, which having a masters in finance did not baffle me, was suppose to end with us giving them our equity and giving them another $12,000 USD; but getting $3,500.00 USD a year for our new property! Or $1750.00 if we took 3 vacation weeks, the other money would pay for our maintance fees and booking fees When their team left us (my wife was weakening) she said Thank God, "it sounds too good to be true"! Here is a first = I said no thank, they offered a 10 day get out of the deal deal, again no. Then an offer to sleep on thier offer! First time they evet let us go away and think of it. Back the next am, NO again. Then the foreclousure spiel. NO and we got a $100.00 without having to put the $20.00 down. Overall an hourband a half (we are here for three weeks) so not a waste of vacation time.

Anyone else had this presentation? Buyer beware!

 

[feliciatd]

We did the Columbia lunch & "owner update" today at Vacation Village also. What we heard was the VVPlus program, which was apparently new since last year, as it wasn't offered to us then. What it amounted to was adding 44000 biennial points to our existing 80000 annual Vacation Village points to get the VVPlus benefits. The biggest part of the pitch was that we could get weeks not only at VV properties but at other RCI properties also for much less than non-VVPlus people. We would also get the services of the VV Concierge and internal exchange options, which aren't available to us now since our points were purchased at resale, not from the developer. We spent 23K points for this week (2/10-2/17) and they showed us reservations made for 7500 points. The cost was $3995. Still deciding on this one. Also, the 10 day "get out of the deal" offer is simply Florida law for any timeshare purchase (we've used it a couple of times).

 

[tschwa2]

They simply showed you a last minute reservation, that has nothing to do with resale vs VVplus for the 23k vs 7500 points. How much additional MF for the 44,000 biennial points.

 

[Jan M.]

We spent 23K points for this week (2/10-2/17) and they showed us reservations made for 7500 points.

Anyone can get those 7500 reduced point weeks in the last 3-4 weeks before the check in date; that has nothing to do with VV and their new program! I book them all the time on RCI.

When you own a VV property and book a VV stay the exchange fee is less for you. Unless that changed with RCI's new pricing on fees a few months ago. Also anyone who belongs to RCI can book the sale weeks that need no points and no exchange fee. A lot of the VV properties are in those sale weeks. The prices range from $199-$349 and up depending on the sale, the resort and the unit size.

I'm not sure if there are bigger, better benefits to the VV Plus program than what you get in the RCI platinum program. The current best deal on that program is three years for $171. These are the RCI Platinum benefits:


City Attractions
Save 20% off things to do when you travel with a Go City Card multi-attraction pass. Passes include admission to top attractions, tours, museums, and more in 11 popular destinations for one low price. Pay nothing at the gate. More choices, more savings.



Complimentary Unit Upgrades & Changes
Here’s how it works: when you book your confirmed Exchange vacation, you’ll have the opportunity to receive Complimentary Unit Upgrades and Resort Changes. Just let us know you’re interested in a unit upgrade or resort change. Within two weeks of check-in, if one of the resorts you’ve specified, or a bigger unit at your confirmed resort becomes available, we’ll change your reservation and provide you with the details.



Savings Dollars
Earn Savings Dollars on select RCI transactions you already do (like paying exchange fees and renewing your RCI® subscribing membership).Then it’s up to you how you redeem them – hotel stays, home electronics, fashion, wine (where legally available to ship), jewelry, sporting goods, dining certificates and more.*


Priority Access
Get exclusive access to exchange vacations at select hotels and resorts before they’re made available to standard RCI® subscribing members for exchange.



RCI Platinum Points Extension
Get more time to enjoy your Points! As an RCI Platinum member, who is also an RCI Points®member, you are eligible to extend your unused Points for Two Use Years, as compared to standard RCI members who can extend their Points for only One Use Year, when they pay the same applicable fee. While extended Points expire at the end of a Third Use Year for standard RCI members, RCI Platinum members will enjoy a Fourth Use Year with no additional fee.



10% Discount on Extra VacationsSMgetaways and Last CallSM Vacations
Enjoy an additional 10% off all your Extra VacationsSM getaways and Last CallSMVacations — even those already on sale.*


Free Ongoing Search
Can’t find the vacation you’re looking for right now? We’ll keep a lookout for you 24/7 and you won’t be charged your exchange fee until we find a match!

Free On-Hold Vacations
Not quite ready to book? We’ll hold your vacation for you without a fee while you iron out those last minute details.

Platinum Previews
RCI Platinum members have first dibs on Extra VacationsSM getaways sales! With RCI Platinum membership, see (and book) Extra Vacations getaways sales one day earlier than standard RCI members.


RCI®Points Partner Program
Make your Points go farther! RCI Platinum members, who are RCI Points members, can use more of their annual Points allocation when booking travel – 50% of your annual Points allotment, rather than 33% for standard RCI members.



Platinum Cruise Exchange
RCI Platinum members still receive an extra $25USD off per cabin towards the purchase of select cruises (and can enjoy this benefit on an unlimited number of cabins, so bring along the whole family!)

Priority Answer
RCI Platinum members who call 1.866.545.7205 get quicker access to our knowledgeable guides. Enjoy fast answers from the RCI Platinum experts who are waiting to help you with your vacation planning!

Free Points Transfers
Know an RCI Points member that could use additional Points? Lucky them! Now RCI Platinum members no longer pay a Points transfer fee, so transfer away!



RCI Platinum® Guided Vacations
Looking to explore exotic locales? Or do you want to visit renowned golf, ski, and spa destinations in the U.S.? Either way, we’ve got a vacation tour for you! Plus, RCI Platinum members receive an extra $25USD per couple towards the purchase of select tours, as compared to standard RCI members.

 

[theo]

... they offered a 10 day get out of the deal deal...

The weasels "offered" you nothing in this regard. Florida provides a 10 days contract rescission period to anyone and everyone, by law.

 

[feliciatd]

They simply showed you a last minute reservation, that has nothing to do with resale vs VVplus for the 23k vs 7500 points. How much additional MF for the 44,000 biennial points.

The MF is $440 every 2 years.

 

[feliciatd]

Anyone can get those 7500 reduced point weeks in the last 3-4 weeks before the check in date; that has nothing to do with VV and their new program! I book them all the time on RCI.

When you own a VV property and book a VV stay the exchange fee is less for you. Unless that changed with RCI's new pricing on fees a few months ago. Also anyone who belongs to RCI can book the sale weeks that need no points and no exchange fee. A lot of the VV properties are in those sale weeks. The prices range from $199-$349 and up depending on the sale, the resort and the unit size.

I'm not sure if there are bigger, better benefits to the VV Plus program than what you get in the RCI platinum program. The current best deal on that program is three years for $171. These are the RCI Platinum benefits:


City Attractions
Save 20% off things to do when you travel with a Go City Card multi-attraction pass. Passes include admission to top attractions, tours, museums, and more in 11 popular destinations for one low price. Pay nothing at the gate. More choices, more savings.



Complimentary Unit Upgrades & Changes
Here’s how it works: when you book your confirmed Exchange vacation, you’ll have the opportunity to receive Complimentary Unit Upgrades and Resort Changes. Just let us know you’re interested in a unit upgrade or resort change. Within two weeks of check-in, if one of the resorts you’ve specified, or a bigger unit at your confirmed resort becomes available, we’ll change your reservation and provide you with the details.



Savings Dollars
Earn Savings Dollars on select RCI transactions you already do (like paying exchange fees and renewing your RCI® subscribing membership).Then it’s up to you how you redeem them – hotel stays, home electronics, fashion, wine (where legally available to ship), jewelry, sporting goods, dining certificates and more.*


Priority Access
Get exclusive access to exchange vacations at select hotels and resorts before they’re made available to standard RCI® subscribing members for exchange.



RCI Platinum Points Extension
Get more time to enjoy your Points! As an RCI Platinum member, who is also an RCI Points®member, you are eligible to extend your unused Points for Two Use Years, as compared to standard RCI members who can extend their Points for only One Use Year, when they pay the same applicable fee. While extended Points expire at the end of a Third Use Year for standard RCI members, RCI Platinum members will enjoy a Fourth Use Year with no additional fee.



10% Discount on Extra VacationsSMgetaways and Last CallSM Vacations
Enjoy an additional 10% off all your Extra VacationsSM getaways and Last CallSMVacations — even those already on sale.*


Free Ongoing Search
Can’t find the vacation you’re looking for right now? We’ll keep a lookout for you 24/7 and you won’t be charged your exchange fee until we find a match!

Free On-Hold Vacations
Not quite ready to book? We’ll hold your vacation for you without a fee while you iron out those last minute details.

Platinum Previews
RCI Platinum members have first dibs on Extra VacationsSM getaways sales! With RCI Platinum membership, see (and book) Extra Vacations getaways sales one day earlier than standard RCI members.


RCI®Points Partner Program
Make your Points go farther! RCI Platinum members, who are RCI Points members, can use more of their annual Points allocation when booking travel – 50% of your annual Points allotment, rather than 33% for standard RCI members.



Platinum Cruise Exchange
RCI Platinum members still receive an extra $25USD off per cabin towards the purchase of select cruises (and can enjoy this benefit on an unlimited number of cabins, so bring along the whole family!)

Priority Answer
RCI Platinum members who call 1.866.545.7205 get quicker access to our knowledgeable guides. Enjoy fast answers from the RCI Platinum experts who are waiting to help you with your vacation planning!

Free Points Transfers
Know an RCI Points member that could use additional Points? Lucky them! Now RCI Platinum members no longer pay a Points transfer fee, so transfer away!



RCI Platinum® Guided Vacations
Looking to explore exotic locales? Or do you want to visit renowned golf, ski, and spa destinations in the U.S.? Either way, we’ve got a vacation tour for you! Plus, RCI Platinum members receive an extra $25USD per couple towards the purchase of select tours, as compared to standard RCI members.

I asked about time frames for the reservations they showed us, & didn't really get an answer. I suspected they were last minute reservations, and also asked to see if we could get a 7500 point deal for October when we are considering returning to VV in Kissimmee. Very indefinite answer that "you should be able to do that in October - it's a shoulder season". But I will want to book that further in advance so no good. I did a comparison of RCI Platinum vs. VV Plus & virtually no difference. VV Plus throws in one free internal exchange ($99 fee normally) for each of your first 2 years. That's it. So no real benefit to buying more points through VV just to use this pseudo-benefit of their VV Plus. And yes, the RCI exchange fee is still less to book a VV property if you own VV. Think we'll just do RCI Platinum on our own if we decide to upgrade. Thanks for your input.

 

[TUGBrian]

glad you found the correct answers in time to save 23k!

 

[feliciatd]

We are actually saving $4K but still better than buying something we really didn't want. The 23K I mentioned was the number of points we spent for a week, which they tried to use to sell us on this program that would get us a week for 7500 points, which of course you don't need any special program for.

 

[Talent312]

... so not a waste of vacation time.

I'm sorry, but IMHO, one minute (let alone 90) with these weasels, plus the additional time it takes to unwind, is too many. To me, $100 is not worth putting up with the aggravation and then, having to write about it on TUG later.
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