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Forum: Marriott Resort System June 24, 2015, 10:20 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 3,149
Posted By OldPantry
The real champ?

Took a look at the article. The Marriott card certainly looks like a dud. Sure, once you have a quarter of a million points, you can start playing the travel package game, but ... really?

The...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 16, 2015, 06:21 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 2,351
Posted By OldPantry
So, just accumulate 200,000 points and you can...

So, just accumulate 200,000 points and you can jet off to a ... cat 1-5 hotel for a week, IF you can find an airline willing to take a mere 50,000 travel points when and where you want to go. Hmm. ...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 10, 2015, 06:15 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 567
Posted By OldPantry
Me too!

Today I was able to FINALLY use a "complimentary" II certificate. For the same fee, I got a one-bedroom Tahiti Village unit in Las Vegas for the week including Christmas. While that's clearly not...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 10, 2015, 06:01 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,163
Posted By OldPantry
Custom House Rocks!

We spent a lovely week at Custom House over our spring vacation. While that might not count as high season, I suspect that it's pretty popular with the college-visitation crowd. At any rate, we...
Forum: Marriott Resort System April 29, 2015, 09:22 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 775
Posted By OldPantry
Newport ROFR, plus Custom House rave

Just a quick update: my purchase of a platinum Newport at $8100 just passed ROFR. Kind of a relief, as I'd begun to wonder whether the world of resale is dying. When you see what Marriott now...
Forum: Marriott Resort System March 27, 2015, 12:43 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 2,011
Posted By OldPantry
Since the maintenance fees are owed to the HOA,...

Since the maintenance fees are owed to the HOA, it appears to me that the lien would be that of the HOA, not Marriott. Foreclosure would then result in the deeded week being repossessed by the HOA...
Forum: Marriott Resort System March 25, 2015, 04:31 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 775
Posted By OldPantry
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying ($8100). ...

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying ($8100). The broker reported recent ROFRs at $7500 and $8000, with one at $8500, but including an August 2015 reservation. So, I'm resigned to repeat the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System March 24, 2015, 06:44 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 775
Posted By OldPantry
Newport Plat: avoiding the ROFR?

Hi folks,

I'm interested in obtaining a Newport platinum week on resale. I see a bunch of units for sale at $8500. I was thinking of offering a lower price, but a broker assured me...
Forum: Marriott Resort System April 23, 2014, 10:19 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 7,109
Posted By OldPantry
Hey FT, you're mangling the guy's point. Sure,...

Hey FT, you're mangling the guy's point. Sure, there's been inflation in the cost of hotel rooms, but do you think his maintenance fees haven't risen sharply over the years as well? Why is it...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 10, 2014, 04:29 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,452
Posted By OldPantry
One possible additional advantage: my wife was...

One possible additional advantage: my wife was just given Gold status for 2014. This is the second consecutive year this has happened, despite our coming well short of the required 50 paid nights...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 16, 2012, 04:57 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 489
Posted By OldPantry
Thanks. I should have guessed. They're not...

Thanks. I should have guessed. They're not really nights, just a counting system.
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 16, 2012, 04:36 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 489
Posted By OldPantry
Elite Nights: Whattaboutem?

I read frequently about elite nights, carryovers, etc. But, I don't really know what use they have. I feel silly about it, but haven't seen anything in the Marriott Rewards website that explains...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 8, 2012, 05:10 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 6,521
Posted By OldPantry
Ah, but they're an investment! Why the many...

Ah, but they're an investment! Why the many guilt trips I've given my kids have been priceless!
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 8, 2012, 02:14 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 6,521
Posted By OldPantry
Well, that last comment says it all, doesn't it? ...

Well, that last comment says it all, doesn't it? Sure, we are all here for a short time, and need to unwind in the meantime. Sure, it would be silly to beat ourselves up endlessly about past...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 8, 2012, 01:50 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 6,521
Posted By OldPantry
It was poetic exaggeration!!!! That nice smell...

It was poetic exaggeration!!!!
That nice smell lasted for several days. Priceless!!!!
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 7, 2012, 05:38 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 6,521
Posted By OldPantry
Hi!!!! Boy, you're even more hard-headed...

Hi!!!!

Boy, you're even more hard-headed than I. I admit to buying new cars only, about one every five years, with a total turnover of ten years. I love that smell, even though it only lasts for...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 6, 2012, 02:26 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 6,521
Posted By OldPantry
Ah, poetic exaggeration (four exclamation...

Ah, poetic exaggeration (four exclamation marks!). Really though, you wouldn't spend $1 million for those choice weeks, would you?

You don't actually mean priceless, you mean valuable. And...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2012, 11:56 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 6,521
Posted By OldPantry
Well, that $5k in perks sounds nice, but ......

Well, that $5k in perks sounds nice, but ... isn't that really just a return of principal? That is, Marriott got $70K from your friend, and handed back $5 as an incentive. So really, he invested...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 14, 2012, 01:49 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,833
Posted By OldPantry
Well, I tried to do this exact thing last...

Well, I tried to do this exact thing last Tuesday. That is, I own multiple weeks, and wanted to use the 13 month window to split my Timber Lodge into 1BR and lock-off weeks, booked consecutively. ...
Forum: Marriott Resort System February 5, 2012, 01:57 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 7,861
Posted By OldPantry
Well, since the soda and coffee aren't free, why...

Well, since the soda and coffee aren't free, why is it "not nice" to point out that filling a retread is theft? Comments about hygiene or cheapness of the syrup are irrelevant. A small theft is...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 18, 2012, 07:08 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 4,404
Posted By OldPantry
[QUOTE=SueDonJ;1231042] Sorry, my edit, to...

[QUOTE=SueDonJ;1231042]
Sorry, my edit, to clarifiy that I don't have great-grandchildren (or even grandchildren) yet caused a total dupe. Unintentional.
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 18, 2012, 06:39 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 4,404
Posted By OldPantry
OK, white flag time! I now believe you went into...

OK, white flag time! I now believe you went into the deal with eyes wide open. You were also the lucky beneficiary of a totally honest and candid sales presentation. And, I assume, you've won the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 18, 2012, 04:13 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 4,404
Posted By OldPantry
Hi Sue. Wow, a $9000 sewing machine? That must...

Hi Sue.
Wow, a $9000 sewing machine? That must sting. The timeshare observation, though, has a large whiff of hindsight. Did you REALLY believe the money was gone the moment you bought the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 16, 2012, 09:30 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 4,404
Posted By OldPantry
If you really want to cry, try owning in Hawaii,...

If you really want to cry, try owning in Hawaii, particularly Kauai, Ko Olina or Maui. Those MFs have risen hugely (over 70% for me at Ko Olina), and in many cases, rentals no longer cover them. ...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 12, 2012, 05:17 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 902
Posted By OldPantry
The first part of the answer is a relief. ...

The first part of the answer is a relief. Another fee is a non-issue compared to being unable to use a prime week entirely. As to the second part, would "changing the reservation" be different? ...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 11, 2012, 11:15 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 902
Posted By OldPantry
Since you seem up on the ins and out of II, what...

Since you seem up on the ins and out of II, what are the possibilities for changing a reserved week (internal exchange to Timber Lodge) for another choice at another time? My reservation is way out...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 11, 2012, 08:32 PM
Replies: 277
Views: 64,538
Posted By OldPantry
No, your explanation clarifies the difference...

No, your explanation clarifies the difference between the use 'em or lose 'em nature of the bonus points, which clearly do have skim built in, as one is unlikely to be able to use exactly 800 points....
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 11, 2012, 12:27 PM
Replies: 277
Views: 64,538
Posted By OldPantry
Well, if "surplus" Marriott DC points expire, and...

Well, if "surplus" Marriott DC points expire, and don't roll over from year to year, then I would definitely call that a major skim, and certainly by design.
In fact, it would be pretty hard to...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 10, 2012, 10:53 PM
Replies: 277
Views: 64,538
Posted By OldPantry
Really Susan, I think you slipped here. What...

Really Susan, I think you slipped here. What about the exceedingly common situation where a reservation used most, but not all of your bonus points (given for joining the DC)? What happened to...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 7, 2012, 08:36 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 803
Posted By OldPantry
I can't agree at all. The trouble with...

I can't agree at all. The trouble with downgrading the summer term to gold is that gold has a fairly negative meaning for most other resorts. Summer is a highly valued season for Tahoe. I've been...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 7, 2012, 08:22 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 803
Posted By OldPantry
Well, now I feel better, which might make you...

Well, now I feel better, which might make you feel worse. Sorry. I was kicking myself for missing that gem, but it turns out to be a head fake. So ... OK. By the way, this might have been one...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 6, 2012, 01:00 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 803
Posted By OldPantry
Gotta say, I'm experiencing waves of nausea at...

Gotta say, I'm experiencing waves of nausea at tsunami levels! I bought an identical unit last year for $8,000, and was patting myself on the back. I have the same queasy feeling about my...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 3, 2012, 12:23 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 3,715
Posted By OldPantry
Hi novice. Unless you have plenty of excess...

Hi novice. Unless you have plenty of excess "fritter" money (I mean above and beyond ALL other more serious obligations), I would advise you to pass. Recurring, ever increasing, obligations can...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 2, 2012, 02:00 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
Yes, another dupe. I'll do better next time.

Yes, another dupe. I'll do better next time.
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 2, 2012, 01:59 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
Honestly, I didn't try to do that. I think I...

Honestly, I didn't try to do that. I think I just posted once. I'm going to try to delete the repeats.
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 2, 2012, 01:51 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
Accidental dupe.

Accidental dupe.
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 2, 2012, 01:44 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
Accidental dupe.

Accidental dupe.
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 2, 2012, 01:29 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
Hi. Your counter-argument is emphatic, but the...

Hi. Your counter-argument is emphatic, but the first four points seem to support my pessimism.
1. Misrepresentation: you seem to blame the folks who bought with an expectation of appreciation. ...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 2, 2012, 01:05 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
gnorth16, I agree the east coast (South...

gnorth16,

I agree the east coast (South Carolina and Florida) resorts have shown better resilience than most other Marriott sites (Aruba excepted). However, I'm not sure they're any more immune...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 1, 2012, 11:06 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,815
Posted By OldPantry
I'm afraid I come down more on the $1000 side. ...

I'm afraid I come down more on the $1000 side. Sure, an unbroken downward trend might reverse sometime, but would you want to bet on it? The factors forcing prices down are unlikely to reverse...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 1, 2012, 09:58 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 2,609
Posted By OldPantry
Hmm, that's a thought. We just escaped to...

Hmm, that's a thought. We just escaped to Newport from Seattle over Christmas, and my wife LOVED it. We had feared an inferior resort experience, due to the late season, but were blown away to...
Forum: Marriott Resort System January 1, 2012, 09:40 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 2,609
Posted By OldPantry
Just Gotta Brag!

Well, in my admittedly limited experience, I would say the II trading option for Marriott legacy weeks is alive and well. Last July, I was able to trade a Ko Olina studio for a two BR Breckenridge...
Forum: Marriott Resort System December 8, 2011, 10:38 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 3,220
Posted By OldPantry
Geez. It's tricky to agree with someone, but...

Geez. It's tricky to agree with someone, but dislike the utterly pompous way the point is made. The criticism leveled against you was that you were being overly broad. I think that's fair. There...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 14, 2011, 11:06 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,357
Posted By OldPantry
Your every other year unit enables you to reserve...

Your every other year unit enables you to reserve two separate weeks (for a fee). Both must be in your usage year. However, once you have reserved that 2012 studio week and traded it into II, you...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 14, 2011, 12:46 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,357
Posted By OldPantry
The way I've done it is to lock off; reserve the...

The way I've done it is to lock off; reserve the most desirable studio week I could find (using the Vacation Club points charts is helpful to target the best trading weeks); then deposit the week...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 14, 2011, 12:34 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,357
Posted By OldPantry
When you talk about trading, I assume you're...

When you talk about trading, I assume you're looking to lock off the studio and occupy the 1BR? If so, I can attest to the superior trading power of the studios. As an EOY owner, I have traded my...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 13, 2011, 09:39 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,706
Posted By OldPantry
My two cents worth: rescind ... YESTERDAY!

My two cents worth: rescind ... YESTERDAY!
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 10, 2011, 02:00 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 3,222
Posted By OldPantry
The OP was complaining about his salesperson's...

The OP was complaining about his salesperson's apparent ignorance regarding key features of the VC plan. His ignorance, if such, is sloppy. But it could easily have been deliberate...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 10, 2011, 12:32 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 3,222
Posted By OldPantry
Susan, I love your talent for understatement. ...

Susan, I love your talent for understatement. I'm tempted to call you a radical moderate. Still, I agree that it is "more difficult" to argue that developer purchases are the option that works best.
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 10, 2011, 12:27 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 3,222
Posted By OldPantry
Whoa! Really? Shoddy tactics are OK if the...

Whoa! Really? Shoddy tactics are OK if the attendee is only there for points? As you should know, most folks attend thinking they're only there for the goodies. A predictable minority of them end...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 10, 2011, 12:19 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 4,228
Posted By OldPantry
Yup. I've ended up with that identical...

Yup. I've ended up with that identical conclusion. Even looking at those juicy rentals in Aruba, I see a number of dead spots: platinum rentals at or below $2500. Considering that the cheapest...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 9, 2011, 10:19 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 4,228
Posted By OldPantry
Well, I've been toying with this idea recently. ...

Well, I've been toying with this idea recently. I'd considered buying a bunch of timeshares on the resale market and using them to generate a nice income stream. For example, I saw a 1BR ski...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 9, 2011, 07:50 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 4,228
Posted By OldPantry
Fair enough. Still, have you included ALL the...

Fair enough. Still, have you included ALL the costs of your timeshare ownership when you conclude that renting is an inferior option? I own a couple of timeshares myself, and enjoy them thoroughly....
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 9, 2011, 02:52 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,730
Posted By OldPantry
Well, I looked into the AI package for our trip...

Well, I looked into the AI package for our trip to Costa Rica next April. At first, I was psyched, until I realized that the hefty point cost was on top of points needed for the hotel itself. At...
Forum: Marriott Resort System November 9, 2011, 02:47 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 4,228
Posted By OldPantry
Well, I think you have some unrealistic...

Well, I think you have some unrealistic expectations here. Your complaint seems to be that people trying to rent won't subsidize your vacation. Why would anyone rent for less than it costs them,...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 31, 2011, 03:15 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,446
Posted By OldPantry
Yes, I looked this one over, thinking it was...

Yes, I looked this one over, thinking it was "irresistable". Until I checked Redweek, and saw ski studios going for less than the maintenance fee. So, pass, pass. Of course, some were asking more,...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 30, 2011, 09:03 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,895
Posted By OldPantry
[QUOTE=lprstn;1193271]I got this email. What do...

[QUOTE=lprstn;1193271]I got this email. What do you think?
~~~~~~~

Palm Beach, Aruba - Marriott’s Aruba Ocean Club
$18,100 for a 1-bedroom ocean view in gold season

Orlando, Florida -...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 29, 2011, 10:15 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,282
Posted By OldPantry
Isn't it odd? They warn of a hefty price...

Isn't it odd? They warn of a hefty price increase, beyond last year's hefty price increase, and then offer a drop to the original pre-pre-price increase price. Do you honestly think we've seen the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 29, 2011, 05:16 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,754
Posted By OldPantry
Well, I think a few things just jump out from...

Well, I think a few things just jump out from this presentation.

MVW had revenues of $1.3 billion, with 50% from sales and 15% from financing. Their own figures say 83000 owners have enrolled...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 27, 2011, 10:42 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 3,118
Posted By OldPantry
Yeah. I think somebody else ought to be the...

Yeah. I think somebody else ought to be the judge. How about ... me? Really though, I think Jim's response (see above) was spot on. We were both trying to hone in on effective rewards strategies,...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 26, 2011, 11:11 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 3,118
Posted By OldPantry
Oops, and sorry. I missed the Euro conversion. ...

Oops, and sorry. I missed the Euro conversion. So, the hotel could be a good deal with points. At 240,000 points for a week (yeah, I know you're talking about a 360k bundling package, but bear...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 25, 2011, 06:59 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 3,118
Posted By OldPantry
Hmm, you paint a rosy picture. But I see several...

Hmm, you paint a rosy picture. But I see several problems in the scenario. You say you get 2.5 Marriott rewards points for each dollar spent; then talk about what you could do with 360,000 points. ...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 25, 2011, 02:20 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 3,118
Posted By OldPantry
I totally agree that the Marriott rewards system...

I totally agree that the Marriott rewards system has become so chintzy that it's absolutely not worth participating. A true cash back rewards card is altogether better.

The best commonly...
Forum: Buying, Selling, Renting October 20, 2011, 10:41 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,759
Posted By OldPantry
Just curious about the abbreviations. BK is...

Just curious about the abbreviations. BK is obviously bankruptcy, but OP? Object of Pity?
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 11, 2011, 05:44 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 7,202
Posted By OldPantry
Greg; fascinating what you can get from reading...

Greg; fascinating what you can get from reading the public information. One thing you've demonstrated neatly: Spinco is overwhelmingly dependent upon points sales, both primarily and via financing...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 10, 2011, 11:39 AM
Replies: 99
Views: 7,202
Posted By OldPantry
You had me at "beer." It's a long shot, but I'll...

You had me at "beer." It's a long shot, but I'll be at Newport over Christmas, and Ko Olina next August 5-12, in both cases not on points. If you're there, I'll buy (beer, not points).
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 3, 2011, 12:37 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 7,202
Posted By OldPantry
Thanks Greg. I think that makes it pretty clear....

Thanks Greg. I think that makes it pretty clear. Just on maintenance fees, they were looking for a nightly payment of $571, with seven of the nights in shoulder season. Add in opportunity cost...
Forum: Marriott Resort System October 3, 2011, 10:53 AM
Replies: 99
Views: 7,202
Posted By OldPantry
I must say I found this eye-opening. The Ritz...

I must say I found this eye-opening. The Ritz Carleton aura was masking fairly catastrophic losses. Did anyone go through a Ritz Carleton presentation? I'm wondering just how much they were...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 18, 2011, 12:29 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 3,268
Posted By OldPantry
We got our first (completely unexpected) taste of...

We got our first (completely unexpected) taste of gold when we checked into the Inner Harbor Marriott in Victoria, BC this summer. We were using a certificate (Marriott Visa renewal), and weren't...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 15, 2011, 01:03 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 3,558
Posted By OldPantry
All I can say about this whole thread is that I...

All I can say about this whole thread is that I have found it NEARLY impossible to locate tickets on ANY airline at the lowest rewards levels. After spending umpteen hours on various scenarios, I...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 7, 2011, 11:48 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,161
Posted By OldPantry
"Deal with it sounds" like you think timeos (and...

"Deal with it sounds" like you think timeos (and I) are refusing to face facts. I would suggest the refusal lies elsewhere. The real threats, to nearly every resort on the planet, are high...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 09:46 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,161
Posted By OldPantry
John, That's the first really good idea I've...

John,
That's the first really good idea I've read. Do I read you correctly in the assumption that the mud week owner continues to own, but ultimately pays lower MFs, in exchange for allowing the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 09:33 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 4,994
Posted By OldPantry
I get the idea that great vacation experiences...

I get the idea that great vacation experiences are "priceless". True. Irrelevant to a discussion of what a timeshare is worth, but true. I wouldn't give up my own lovely Ko Olina experiences, even...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 08:51 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,161
Posted By OldPantry
No proof; just a number of isolated comments...

No proof; just a number of isolated comments about allowances for bad MFs by various HOAs. I tried to be cautious, by saying I suspect the situation is getting worse. Maybe it's coming up roses,...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 08:48 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,161
Posted By OldPantry
Well, I guess you can argue that points may...

Well, I guess you can argue that points may alleviate the problem for new points owners. All they have to do is pony up another $15,000 minimum (again), and pay MFs that handily exceed the rates...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 06:30 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,161
Posted By OldPantry
I'm humble enough to know that this is not the...

I'm humble enough to know that this is not the first time the issue has been raised. I do think it's relevant, if there is in fact a steady increase in defaults. To me, looking at the steady...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 01:53 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,161
Posted By OldPantry
The mud week problem

Has anyone been keeping systematic track of homeowner losses due to maintenance fee defaults? I'd bet they're on the rise, but haven't found any good way to track the trend.

The reason I'm...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 01:24 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 4,994
Posted By OldPantry
Well, actually, I wasn't trying to say that it...

Well, actually, I wasn't trying to say that it will happen for sure. I said that it would happen, if a meaningful spread between MFs and rental occurs. THEN it's a when. Why? Because the world is...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 06:47 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 4,994
Posted By OldPantry
Hmm. You guarantee it? Well, what if those...

Hmm. You guarantee it? Well, what if those lovely low maintenance fees (about $1000/year?) went to $2000? Or $3000? Out of the question? Well, my Ko Olina fees have nearly doubled since I...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 5, 2011, 06:32 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 4,994
Posted By OldPantry
Sure. Most timeshare folks aren't that...

Sure. Most timeshare folks aren't that cold-blooded. The huge majority bought in a flush of enthusiasm after a carefully orchestrated hard sell (guilty, guilty). BUT, buyer's remorse is in full...
Forum: Marriott Resort System September 4, 2011, 08:59 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 4,994
Posted By OldPantry
I'm on board with this entire line of analysis. A...

I'm on board with this entire line of analysis. A timeshare "investment" makes sense only if rental income exceeds those maintenance fees. I would quibble a bit, though, with your goal of a ten-year...
Forum: Marriott Resort System August 8, 2011, 11:26 PM
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Posted By OldPantry
I too think you're a bit too hard-line here. ...

I too think you're a bit too hard-line here. Assuming you use a standard escrow firm, I see no particular problem in going the Ebay route. Also, there are other good resale options other than...
Forum: Marriott Resort System August 1, 2011, 01:28 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 2,365
Posted By OldPantry
I get why you don't want to buy. But, what does...

I get why you don't want to buy. But, what does ROFR have to do with it? For a buyer (somebody who actually WANTS to buy, foolishly or not), ROFR functions exactly like an auction where somebody...
Forum: Marriott Resort System August 1, 2011, 01:35 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 2,365
Posted By OldPantry
This is a strange contribution to a Marriott...

This is a strange contribution to a Marriott thread. If you want to buy (or sell) Marriott, then ROFR is a fact of life. It can't be "easily avoided" if you want Marriott. Frankly, though, I don't...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 27, 2011, 02:18 PM
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Posted By OldPantry
How about 2 1/2 %?

Has anyone else received a Bank of America VISA Cash Rewards card? Our offer is a straight 2% cash back, with an extra .5% bonus if we redeem $300 or more at a time. On a $100,000 outlay to the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 15, 2011, 09:12 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 11,797
Posted By OldPantry
All right bub. Here's the entire subthread: ...

All right bub. Here's the entire subthread:
bjones9942
In Europe and Asia servers are paid a living wage, and the price of your meals reflects it.

In many areas of the United States, servers...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 13, 2011, 01:35 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 11,797
Posted By OldPantry
EducatedConsumer said: "I challenge anyone who...

EducatedConsumer said: "I challenge anyone who has enjoyed personal and professional success to walk the steps a timeshare housekeeper walks. We have no issue taking a few dollars out of our pocket...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 13, 2011, 01:52 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,431
Posted By OldPantry
I've got to say that I've done awfully well with...

I've got to say that I've done awfully well with II online recently. I ended up with two Ko Olina lockoffs (hotel rooms), and was able to trade them for a 2BR at Westgate Park City over the recent...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 13, 2011, 01:38 AM
Replies: 111
Views: 11,797
Posted By OldPantry
I don't think I missed your point at all. You...

I don't think I missed your point at all. You were saying that people can't be forced to take crappy jobs for meager pay. True enough (although I wonder if you would feel the same way about free...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 11, 2011, 06:31 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 11,797
Posted By OldPantry
Uggh. That kind of comment might possibly make...

Uggh. That kind of comment might possibly make sense when you're deciding whether to "help" a homeless person begging on the street. He/she might blow the money on drugs or drink. BUT, implying...
Forum: Marriott Resort System July 10, 2011, 12:48 AM
Replies: 111
Views: 11,797
Posted By OldPantry
Yeah, I thought that was a pretty remarkably...

Yeah, I thought that was a pretty remarkably tasteless comment. It reminded me of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine tried to "donate" muffin stumps to the homeless. If you're feeling generous, give...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 26, 2011, 09:34 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 876
Posted By OldPantry
It sounds like you're really up against the wall....

It sounds like you're really up against the wall. Frankly, I suspect you're in triage territory. In other words, you should probably concentrate on paying the bills that contribute directly to your...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 17, 2011, 11:42 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,880
Posted By OldPantry
Yes, same as renting, IF you ignore the lost...

Yes, same as renting, IF you ignore the lost income on what you gave Marriott for the points in the first place. Otherwise, much more expensive than renting.
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 16, 2011, 02:00 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,880
Posted By OldPantry
Well, ever since the destination club was...

Well, ever since the destination club was introduced, I would think there's been a big problem for onsite sales centers: the inability to assure potential buyers that they'll have access to the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 15, 2011, 01:32 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 4,437
Posted By OldPantry
Well, take this for what it's worth. I asked...

Well, take this for what it's worth. I asked about the gift of time, and got the following response:

"The Gift of Time will not be offered the same way this year. The extra inventory will be...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 12, 2011, 12:59 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,180
Posted By OldPantry
And I have TWO even EOYs at Ko Olina.

And I have TWO even EOYs at Ko Olina.
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Replies: 75
Views: 3,261
Posted By OldPantry
Well, it's easy to say. This boast doesn't pass...

Well, it's easy to say. This boast doesn't pass the smell test. Why would you be the guy who consistently beats the odds? Who are these guys who are buying your stuff for prices far above what the...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 7, 2011, 12:32 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,264
Posted By OldPantry
Simple answer: no. Take a look at redweek.com,...

Simple answer: no. Take a look at redweek.com, myresortnetwork.com and ebay. There's an oceanfront silver week going for $2500. Why throw your money away buying at $10,000? Silver weeks at MOW...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 6, 2011, 11:48 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 3,963
Posted By OldPantry
Come on, who didn't buy with the intention of...

Come on, who didn't buy with the intention of using the Marriott system? You're killing a straw man there. You've heard the "investment" argument before, and I've heard the "license" argument over...
Forum: Marriott Resort System June 3, 2011, 10:40 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,660
Posted By OldPantry
Good thought, but not for international travel, I...

Good thought, but not for international travel, I believe.
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