2012 DC Club Dues due date - 12/10/11

windje2000 said:

Somebody selected December 10, a date very likely before the spin occurs, for a reason.

Read the Form 10.

MAR is doing everything it can to suck cash or other benefits out of VAC before the transaction.

• Part of the spin transaction involves the sale of $40 million of mandatorily redeemable 10% preferred stock by the US holding company of VAC. The proceeds of the sale will be retained by MAR.

• MAR will retain the tax loss carryforwards (~$300MM) as a result of this transaction.

(Sources: Page 53, Form 10 - Second Amendment filed 9/30/11, Tax Sharing and Indemnification Agreement, Pages 162-163, Fourth Paragraph)

• Add a $50MM+ annual license fee from VAC to MAR for the name.

That's a giant sucking sound you hear . . . as cash is heading to MAR from VAC.

Sue, be careful who you are rooting for. There's a distinction to be made between MAR and VAC.

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I'm rooting for me! All I want is to still be happy with owning Marriotts, and to still enjoy our vacations. So far so good. I will not be happy if I have to read any business/financial reports but that would be right up Don's alley. Maybe I'll print out the Form 10 and give it to him at breakfast on the first day of our next trip - can't wait to see his face then. :hysterical:

You do have to call MVC to get additional discount

We had a reservation for Beachplace over President's weekend. We are using Destination points for Thursday night (part of our 800 plus points) and then 3 nights using the MOD discount on Marriott.com. We had a 35% discount using our Marriott visa. When I read this thread, I called MVC to see if we could get a 40% discount since we have Premier status. I gave my confirmation # and it seemed like they had to look into a "bucket" to see if it was available. I was told it was, so they cancelled our current reservation and then made a new one dropping our nightly rate another 5%. Good deal.

FYI, today the "Check Status/Make A Payment" link on my-vacationclub.com shows the Club Dues fees due 12/10/11.

SueDonJ said:

FYI, today the "Check Status/Make A Payment" link on my-vacationclub.com shows the Club Dues fees due 12/10/11.

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It's odd, because I don't see the bill for the $199, just for the MFs....

Hmmm.....anyone else see this too?

Thx!

Greg

Hmmm. Looks like they're updating the accounts throughout the day today. Last night there wasn't any indication of the 2012 Club Dues on my account at all. This morning there was no invoice - it only showed up using that "Check Status/Make A Payment" link. I just checked the "View Maintenance Fee Package" link again and the 2012 invoice is there now. (Reviewing past years it looks like my resort MF bills were sent out mid-November; I'm not seeing those yet.)

I am able to see our $165 Club Dues amount due.

I am able to see $199 club dues but not my MF for 2012

dioxide45 said:

I am able to see our $165 Club Dues amount due.

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Wow, this is the ONLY TS fee that has NOT increased for me this year. I like this DC (with a little sarcasm)

My account doesn't show either my mf's or club fee.
Last year, the club fee never did show up on my account, and I never got an email or snail mail notice of it. I had to phone in my payment after I read on these boards that the club fee had been posted for others.

We have the DC fee and some of our MF's, but not all. But since we rarely log into our account after September (all of our weeks are booked by then), I'm glad TUGgers posted the fees were being posted! Otherwise, we might have missed the due date.

Per the important dates link:

December 10, 2011 - 2012 Club Dues will be due. Watch for your Club Dues bill which will be sent on November 1, 2011

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Has anyone received a bill? I figure if it was sent via snail mail that is should have arrived by now and I don't recall seeing any e-mail yet with a bill.

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Per the important dates link:



Has anyone received a bill? I figure if it was sent via snail mail that is should have arrived by now and I don't recall seeing any e-mail yet with a bill.

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No bill, saw it posted online a couple of weeks ago and paid it.

I have a actual hard copy bill. Got it the end of last week

I haven't gotten a bill, yet. And I never receive those newsletters other people seem to get once a month.

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Per the important dates link:



Has anyone received a bill? I figure if it was sent via snail mail that is should have arrived by now and I don't recall seeing any e-mail yet with a bill.

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Received the bill in the mail last week in the Toronto area. However, I found out that it was due Dec 10 on TUG, and already paid it.

I'm not impressed about the short notice.

For many it is probably no notice (at least not yet). We only know about it from reading it here. I am sure that the average Marriott owner doesn't check their my-vacation club account but twice a year. When MF are due and when they make a reservation. Last year these dues were paid in early January. Without notice I expect to see a lot of due going unpaid.

By the way, I learned that I have two accounts with Marriott -- one that had my MFs and one that had my DClub bill. Apparently the DClub can't sent a bill when the owner is a Trust.

Accordingly, I never received my bill where I expected it. They've since linked the two accounts -- but it was an unexpected development.

So.....if you've not gotten your DClub bill....and you hold your property in your family trust.....perhaps you should call your VOA and go hunting for the bill.

Good luck!

Greg

jimf41 said:

... It also says I can get 45% off on a rental if I use my Chase card. That's a new one to me. I guess I'm going to have to call the VOA.

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m61376 said:

Though the potentially large discount on reservations does justify all the posts; I sure would like to know how that works. Are enrolled owners seeing a higher discount with the MOD code?

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dioxide45 said:

The problem is that no one really knows how to book this new discounted rate. Do you call your VOA? It doesn't appear they have provided a discount code to use on Marriott.com for the discount. It seems that perhaps these discounts are only available on MVCI properties?

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crjask said:

We had a reservation for Beachplace over President's weekend. We are using Destination points for Thursday night (part of our 800 plus points) and then 3 nights using the MOD discount on Marriott.com. We had a 35% discount using our Marriott visa. When I read this thread, I called MVC to see if we could get a 40% discount since we have Premier status. I gave my confirmation # and it seemed like they had to look into a "bucket" to see if it was available. I was told it was, so they cancelled our current reservation and then made a new one dropping our nightly rate another 5%. Good deal.

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Excellent deal! I called today for 5 nights at SurfWatch in a 2BR oceanvista unit. Looking at marriott.com the rates were:
- $354 "Leisure Rate"
- $266 "MOD" Vacation Club Owner discount, 25% off
- $230 "MOD" Vacation Club Owner discount using Marriott VISA, 35% off

I called a VOA and asked her to check for the 45% DC Premier Plus discount. At first she didn't know what I was talking about and wasn't sure she could do anything for me without a discount code (which there isn't one in the Insider.) But she was very pleasant and found it eventually - it seemed like she was checking some kind of list and found it there. I ended up getting the nights for $195, not a bad deal at all!

Between all of us I think we've figured out that if you want the DC cash discounts you have to call a VOA. That's an inconvenience that some don't want to deal with, granted, but at least they're pleasant and willing to work with us to find the answers to our questions. I continue to be somewhat impressed with the VOA's (considering this is all as new to them as it is to us.)

If DC Members want to look into this discount but don't have access to the Insider emails, it might help you to mention that the info is stated in the "Benefits At A Glance" link from the 10/19/11 Insider. It reads:

"Owner Rental Discounts:

Owner, 25% off*
Premier Owner, 30% off*
Premier Plus Owner, 35%*

* Additional 10% discount if purchased using Marriott Rewards VISA."

SueDonJ said:

Excellent deal! I called today for 5 nights at SurfWatch in a 2BR oceanvista unit. Looking at marriott.com the rates were:
- $354 "Leisure Rate"
- $266 "MOD" Vacation Club Owner discount, 25% off
- $230 "MOD" Vacation Club Owner discount using Marriott VISA, 35% off

I called a VOA and asked her to check for the 45% DC Premier Plus discount. At first she didn't know what I was talking about and wasn't sure she could do anything for me without a discount code (which there isn't one in the Insider.) But she was very pleasant and found it eventually - it seemed like she was checking some kind of list and found it there. I ended up getting the nights for $195, not a bad deal at all!

Between all of us I think we've figured out that if you want the DC cash discounts you have to call a VOA. That's an inconvenience that some don't want to deal with, granted, but at least they're pleasant and willing to work with us to find the answers to our questions. I continue to be somewhat impressed with the VOA's (considering this is all as new to them as it is to us.)

If DC Members want to look into this discount but don't have access to the Insider emails, it might help you to mention that the info is stated in the "Benefits At A Glance" link from the 10/19/11 Insider. It reads:

"Owner Rental Discounts:

Owner, 25% off*
Premier Owner, 30% off*
Premier Plus Owner, 35%*

* Additional 10% discount if purchased using Marriott Rewards VISA."

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Do you have to pay at the time of booking? Is the cancellation policy the same as those on Marriott.com?

dioxide45 said:

Do you have to pay at the time of booking? Is the cancellation policy the same as those on Marriott.com?

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It's not a pre-paid stay, nothing's been charged to my VISA yet. I'll check again tomorrow to see if they've charged one night but I don't remember her saying they would. She made a point of saying that we'll need our Owner's ID Card and VISA when we check in, and she verified the 3-day cancellation policy.

The policy for the Leisure Rate and 35% MOD with VISA rate (on marriott.com) is the same, 14 days in advance with 1 night charged if you don't give notice.

The cancellation policy for the 25% MOD rate (on marriott.com) and 45% DC Owner rate (through VOA) is the same, 3 days in advance with 1 night charged if you don't give notice.

Don't see much rhyme or reason there.

I didn't ask how many units an owner can book with these rates; both MOD rates limit it to "maximum of 2 villas per Member per stay." That same limitation isn't in the Rate Rules on my confirmation.

{eta} And one more thing that someone may ask ... the confirmation says, "This stay will be credited to your Marriott Rewards account."

Owner Rental Discount Codes

I decided to post this here as it is somewhat off topic on the DC Points on eBay thread.

Thanks to help from Dewnay and Larue, here is the complete list of codes to receive the new DC Owner discount for rentals. It appears from using these codes that is is much like the MOD code, it is primarily available for vacation club properties and not at hotels. You should now be able to use these codes to book these rates on Marriott.com instead of having to call a VOA.


MOD - Owner 25% Discount - 35% if you pay with the Marriott Visa.
Y85 - Premier Owner 30% Discount.
Y83 - Premier Owner 40% Discount when you pay with the Marriott Visa.
P34 - Premier Plus Owner 35% Discount.
P33 - Premier Plus Owner 45% Discount when you pay with the Marriott Visa.

dioxide45 said:

I am able to see our $165 Club Dues amount due.

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RBERR1 said:

I am able to see $199 club dues but not my MF for 2012

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Sorry for my confusion, but are the annual DC dues $165 or $199?

gblotter said:

Sorry for my confusion, but are the annual DC dues $165 or $199?

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It depends on the number of points you have, and I think the cutoff is 6500 points. The same cutoff for Premier Owner. Less than 6500 points the annual DC fee is $165. 6500 and over the DC fee is $199.

From the FAQ on the my-vacationclub.com website:

What are Club Dues? Once you enroll, reservation and usage fees such as locking off, membership with Interval International and trading for Marriott Rewards points will be consolidated into one annual, convenient fee called Club Dues. Club Dues are initially set at $165 if you own or have enrolled up to 6,499 Vacation Club Points. Club Dues are initially set at $199 if you own or have enrolled 6,500 or more Vacation Club Points.

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dioxide45 said:

I decided to post this here as it is somewhat off topic on the DC Points on eBay thread.

Here are some of the codes to receive the new DC Owner discount for rentals. It appears from using these codes that is is much like the MOD code, it is primarily available for vacation club properties and not at hotels. You should now be able to use these codes to book these rates on Marriott.com instead of having to call a VOA.


MOD - Owner 25% Discount - 35% if you pay with the Marriott Visa.
Y85 - Premier Owner 30% Discount.
Y83 - Premier Owner 40% Discount when you pay with the Marriott Visa.
??? - Premier Plus Owner 35% Discount.
??? - Premier Plus Owner 45% Discount with you pay with the Marriott Visa.

If anyone finds out the codes for the Premier Plus Owner, post them here and I will update the list.

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Here's the missing codes:

P34 - Premier Plus Owner 35% Discount.
P33 - Premier Plus Owner 45% Discount with you pay with the Marriott Visa.


Dewnay

Dewnay said:

Here's the missing codes:

P34 - Premier Plus Owner 35% Discount.
P33 - Premier Plus Owner 45% Discount with you pay with the Marriott Visa.


Dewnay

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Thanks, I updated my list in my prior post.

I wonder if a Premier Plus owner can book a room under the Premier rate? Since these rates are capacity controlled, it is possible that the Premier Plus rates could be booked but the Premier rates still available.