Harborside Available

Just wanted to pass along that there are four 2 bedrooms on II available for January of 2009. I would love to get one, but we are going to Disney for a 10 days at New Years.

Hopefully someone here can get one of the units.

Hi Tom,

Quick questions,
a) When I bring up II for exchange in 1/09 I dont see Harborside
b) the 72 hour *wood window, is that something I would view seperately or is it part of the overall listings
c) 2 bd lo has three choices 1 bd prem 1 bd reg and 2 bed is that correct? meaning that my trade in of both bedrooms is = to a regular 2 bd. On II there is no place for me to click for lo just 2 bd

Thanks

a) When I bring up II for exchange in 1/09 I dont see Harborside

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Are you searching specically for Harborside? Also, sometimes II is funny in the it works and you have to search for it more then once.

b) the 72 hour *wood window, is that something I would view seperately or is it part of the overall listings

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It is built in automatically into II.

c) 2 bd lo has three choices 1 bd prem 1 bd reg and 2 bed is that correct? meaning that my trade in of both bedrooms is = to a regular 2 bd. On II there is no place for me to click for lo just 2 bd

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Not sure if I understand this question. I could have treded my one bedroom unit for the two bedrrom at Harborside. The unit you are trading does not need to be a two bedroom to get a two bedroom trade.

my 1 br plat wkv brings up the harborside svv and hra gold does not.
we just can't press the exchange button can we? don't we have to starwood?

What I meant was that there is now line for trading in a 2 bd lo it is either
1 bd-a, 1 bd-b or 2 bd. Still can not bring it up tells me no availability.

pointsjunkie said:

my 1 br plat wkv brings up the harborside svv and hra gold does not.
we just can't press the exchange button can we? don't we have to starwood?

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If you haven't actually deposited a week with II, through Starwood, when you click the exchange button, you will get a message to contact someone about doing it.

If you have already deposited a week, you should be able to make the exchange online.

II Trading Power Test:

A two bedroom L/O at Westin Kierland Villas pulls the following at Harborside:

Jan 03 2009 - Jan 10 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 04 2009 - Jan 11 2009 2 8 8 288
Jan 10 2009 - Jan 17 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 11 2009 - Jan 18 2009 2 8 8 288
Jan 17 2009 - Jan 24 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 18 2009 - Jan 25 2009 2 8 8 288
Jan 24 2009 - Jan 31 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 25 2009 - Feb 01 2009 2 8 8 288

A large one-bedroom Westin Kierland Villas pulls the following at Harborside:

Jan 10 2009 - Jan 17 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 11 2009 - Jan 18 2009 2 8 8 288

A small one-bedroom Westin Kierland Villas pulls the following at Harborside:

Jan 10 2009 - Jan 17 2009 2 6 6 266

A 2 bedroom L/O at Sheraton Desert Oasis pulls the following at Harborside:

Jan 10 2009 - Jan 17 2009 2 6 6 266

The large one bedroom and small one bedroom at SDO don't pull anything at Harborside.

Can anyone post the same results with their non-big dog properties so we can see where they all rate in the overall SVO-trading power scheme of things?

Thanks!
-nodge

Jerseygirl saw the following with 1 br SBP

I see a few more dates with a 1-BR Broadway Plantation:

All Availability For Harborside at Atlantis

Harborside at Atlantis • HRA
Paradise Island, Nassau, , BAHAMAS
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Jan 03 2009 - Jan 10 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 04 2009 - Jan 11 2009 2 8 8 288
Jan 10 2009 - Jan 17 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 11 2009 - Jan 18 2009 2 8 8 288
Jan 17 2009 - Jan 24 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 18 2009 - Jan 25 2009 2 8 8 288
Jan 24 2009 - Jan 31 2009 2 6 6 266
Jan 25 2009 - Feb 01 2009 2 8 8 288

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So SBP 1 br has better pull then a SDO and 1 br WKV?

Would someone run this with WMH? Please? Curious if it's the same as WKV.

Katherine

Threads like these make me want to buy a 1 bd SBP, just to pull the great Starwood 2 bedrooms during the preference period. Wow! But I have two school aged kids, so I couldn't go when something great like that shows up anyhow. Sigh . It is so tempting, though .

I think that the trade power of SVV is so low that it can't pull anything during the preference period or beyond. From reading sightings like this one, it seems like SBP, WKV, WMH and even SDO trade better than SVV and my WKORV studio. Starwood should have made the studios at WKORV into 1 bedrooms like WKV.

Denise I believe you are correct. i have been trying my 2 bd lo at SVV KW all day on II and I am pulling studios in Canada in the winter and Mexico in the summer. Nothing for Bahamas Carribean etc...

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Denise I believe you are correct. i have been trying my 2 bd lo at SVV KW all day on II and I am pulling studios in Canada in the winter and Mexico in the summer. Nothing for Bahamas Carribean etc...

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Here is a very good thread for you to read. It actually has some good info for you Vistana Owners and II trades.

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They all must be gone, I see none of them this morning.

Just a warning about SBP -- only the red (summer) one-BR weeks will pull a 2-BR Harborside, and it's very tough to get Starwood to deposit one for you (you have to be the squeakly wheel). I didn't have a chance last night to play around more, but my past experience has been:

2-BR Summer BP will pull any Harborside
1-BR Summer BP (small side and large side) will pull any Harborside, including a 2-BR .... and WSJ
2-BR Pink BP (May, Sept) will pull all one-BR Harborsides, and some (shoulder season) 2-BRs
1=BR Pink BP will pull all one-BR Harborsides

Red seems to be approximately Memorial Day through Labor day. Pink seems to be May and September. The platinum season in the older phase of BP runs weeks 9-43 and 47. If Starwood sticks you with a lousy week (March, April, October, November) -- you probably won't be able to pull the Harborsides unless they're in flexchange.

This is not scientific -- just from memory of doing past "trade tests" with my various weeks when sightings appear. (Note, have never done a "trade test" when WSJ appears -- that's a GRAB AND RUN situation!!) Just thought a general caution might be helpful ... I wouldn't want anyone to buy BP without understanding the full situation.

All this is pretty true of PGA as well -- but the seasons are different (Feb, March and April are red). They (PGA and BP) are probably the best bargains in the system from a purchase price, maintenance fee and II trading perspective. But, they're not riskless due to the deposit policies (which I'm going to continue to challenge until I see legal proof that they have the right to control the deposits for non-SVN members).

tomandrobin said:

They all must be gone, I see none of them this morning.

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I don't think they're gone -- this has a been a pattern with the last few bulk deposits. I think II or Starwood monitors TUG and once they see we're talking about them -- they pull them and use them to fill ongoing requests only.

The last big (huge) bulk Maui deposit disappeared the next day also -- but for several days afterward, TUG members were reporting receiving matches on ongoing searches. Cooincidence? I think not!

Good morning II/Starwood - hope you're having a wonderful day!