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Sandcastle P'town owners -Festiva

FestivaRep said:
M. Weinberg;
Here are answers to the questions you sent me today.

1. Does the relationship between Festiva and Outfield extend beyond simply hiring them for outside sales?
No.

2. Do Festiva and Outfield have any board members in common?
No.

3. Is Outfield owned, in whole or in part, by Festiva?
No.

Yes.
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Thank you for your responses. You might be interested to know, though, that when Outfield Marketing called me to ask about my experiences when I spoke to one of their representatives at the Sandcastle on July 1, the message they left on my answering machine said, "This is" so-and-so "from the Outfield Marketing division of Festiva Adventure Club." Assuming that your answers to me are true, and I have no reason to doubt them, your firm should be VERY concerned that Outfield is misrepresenting not only your product, but their relationship with you as well. Yet you seem pretty sure that this is the firm that you want selling your memberships. I still have to wonder why that is. I know that if I were hiring an outside firm to represent me publicly, I'd want to make very sure they were representing my honestly. I just thought you'd want to know.

Michael
 
Please answer my questions ....

FestivaRep ...

The next time you are online and on this thread, I would be very appreciative of your time to answer my questions in Post 368 of this thread.

Thank you.
 
NEVS bought all the winter weeks, all units weeks 1-10 and weeks 45-52., plus some foreclosure inventory. They are now waiting to convert enough people to FAC and get those additional deeds under the Festiva name so that the owners association will ALWAYS be outnumbered by their votes, no matter what. Once they get more than enough deeds to cover their a**es, then they will start selling weeks - but only as FAC I bet, no deeded weeks.

I think that's why the special assessment bills haven't gone out. They don't want us to be able to 'out vote' them and eliminate non-emergency repairs.

This opinion was brought to you by ChrisH, and it is published here as solely the opinion of ChrisH, and is not intended to indicate that it is the opinion of anyone else.
 
Special Assessment

Do owners at Sandcastle have the right to demand an accounting of what the special assessment is going to be used for? If we have a problem with how the money is going to be spent and hold back some or all of the assessment, does management have the legal right to deny us access to our units?
 
mweinberg said:
Thank you for your responses. You might be interested to know, though, that when Outfield Marketing called me to ask about my experiences when I spoke to one of their representatives at the Sandcastle on July 1, the message they left on my answering machine said, "This is" so-and-so "from the Outfield Marketing division of Festiva Adventure Club." Assuming that your answers to me are true, and I have no reason to doubt them, your firm should be VERY concerned that Outfield is misrepresenting not only your product, but their relationship with you as well. Yet you seem pretty sure that this is the firm that you want selling your memberships. I still have to wonder why that is. I know that if I were hiring an outside firm to represent me publicly, I'd want to make very sure they were representing my honestly. I just thought you'd want to know.

Michael
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I hope you kept that answering machine message. It will be helpful to have that to present to the AG and to give to an attorney if the owners ever do mount a law suit against Festiva/Outfiled/Nevs. Do not erase that message.
 
ChrisH said:
NEVS bought all the winter weeks, all units weeks 1-10 and weeks 45-52., plus some foreclosure inventory. They are now waiting to convert enough people to FAC and get those additional deeds under the Festiva name so that the owners association will ALWAYS be outnumbered by their votes, no matter what. Once they get more than enough deeds to cover their a**es, then they will start selling weeks - but only as FAC I bet, no deeded weeks.

I think that's why the special assessment bills haven't gone out. They don't want us to be able to 'out vote' them and eliminate non-emergency repairs.

This opinion was brought to you by ChrisH, and it is published here as solely the opinion of ChrisH, and is not intended to indicate that it is the opinion of anyone else.
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Is the resort open during weeks 1-10 and 45-52? Some of those at least should be maintenance weeks which do NOT vote. If the resort is closed, then any week when the resort is closed should be a non-voting maintenance week.

Owners really need to get any attorney involved in this mess soon.
 
Due Sept 30 $883.94

Received the special assessment bill in the mail today...$883.94 due by Sept 30. I own 2 weeks, I know others own more. This is rediculous.
 
We have got to stop them

I haven't received my 'special assessment' yet, but I am in NC so that could be the snail mail. From what I have heard, everyone is being charged the same whether they own a 1-bedroom or studio. That doesn't seem right to me. And, were the MFs handled the same way, everyone was charged the same? Like anything else associated with Cliff, NEVS, Outfield and Festiva, this smells bad.

The renovations to the Sunset Room and the old motel should have been put to a vote by the owners. These are common areas. Are the renovations to the Sunset Room necessary for the safety and health of those staying there. I may be wrong, but I think the 'special assessments' are only to be used for repairs or renovations that are necessary for well-being and safety. I could be wrong. I think that is why the Trust says they have to be voted on by the owners.

It would seem to me that we should be entitled to a detailed report of how this money is going to be spent ... detailed, not general. What are we getting for our money.

Then we should be provided with the information of where this money is coming from ... individual owners and corporate owners (such as Festiva or NEVS or Outfield Marketing). I want to see in black and white what Festiva is paying. If we are all being charged the same per unit, then I want to see how many units Festiva or its Trust owns. I want to know that they are paying SAs just like the rest of us. If not, then I want to know WHY?

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

We need to get moving to do what ever is necessary to stop these people. They lie, steal, threaten, coerce and blatantly break MA laws. We have to step up and claim our rights as owners. They are walking all over us. We need to do whatever is necessary to protect ourselves. Whether it means hiring a lawyer or lawyers, filing complaints with the state and federal governments, taking our stories public via television or radio, and/or starting a class action suit that could include any and all timeshare owners throughout the country who have fallen prey to Festiva, NEVS and Outfield Marketing. We have to organize and move forward. We have all worked hard to buy our unit(s) and to pay to maintain them. Now we should be able to enjoy them without being used by these companies to support their agenda and treating us like second class citizens.
 
The MF's are usually not the same - get charged more for the 1 BR than the studios. At least that how my bills have been coming for 25+ years. But then we had different owners, didn't we?
 
ChrisH said:
The MF's are usually not the same - get charged more for the 1 BR than the studios. At least that how my bills have been coming for 25+ years. But then we had different owners, didn't we?
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I do know that white week owners paid only 1/2 the m/f of red week owners, don't know about size.
 
I have always paid the same amount for red week studio and white week studio - same unit, same size different weeks - and higher MF for the white week 1 BR same week as the white week studio. The original MF's were calculated based on square footage I believe, but could be wrong.
 
Classylassy523 said:
We have to step up and claim our rights as owners. They are walking all over us. We need to do whatever is necessary to protect ourselves. Whether it means hiring a lawyer or lawyers, filing complaints with the state and federal governments, taking our stories public via television or radio, and/or starting a class action suit that could include any and all timeshare owners throughout the country who have fallen prey to Festiva, NEVS and Outfield Marketing. We have to organize and move forward. We have all worked hard to buy our unit(s) and to pay to maintain them. Now we should be able to enjoy them without being used by these companies to support their agenda and treating us like second class citizens.
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Amen.

You can either continue to vent on FestivaRep, and gripe and moan here on TUG about the actions they are taking. Or you can organize into a group to take action to stop them.
 
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ChrisH said:
I have always paid the same amount for red week studio and white week studio - same unit, same size different weeks - and higher MF for the white week 1 BR same week as the white week studio. The original MF's were calculated based on square footage I believe, but could be wrong.
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you are mistaken, again, and again this is just your opinon
 
I have the bills and payments and I pay the SAME amount for a red week and a white week IN THE SAME STUDIO UNIT but I am billed a different/higher amount for a WHITE WEEK that is a ONE BEDROOM unit. That is a FACT and NOT AN OPINION.
 
ChrisH said:
I have always paid the same amount for red week studio and white week studio - same unit, same size different weeks - and higher MF for the white week 1 BR same week as the white week studio. The original MF's were calculated based on square footage I believe, but could be wrong.
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From what I have always understood, the MF for a studio was 1/2 that of the 1-bedroom, no difference between either red, blue or white time.
 
I owned a week 15 studio and still own a week 29 studio. I had them both for a few yrs and the white week m/fs were exactly half of the red week. I do know that for a fact! Do you think it has to with the building we own in? I own in the Coachman.
 
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