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Old September 12, 2007, 04:43 PM   #1
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Question St. John-SVN trade

I'm looking to try and get early June 2008 and was wondering what size rooms if any would be most available.
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Old September 12, 2007, 06:28 PM   #2
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One would think studios, but I don't know.
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Old September 13, 2007, 01:05 PM   #3
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One would think studios, but I don't know.

Yes - studios and 1Bd villas are more numerous. Also, with the BV section opening - I think you will see more ability to excahnge into WSJ.. Unlike the VG villas - BV villas was held to a certain amount of fixed week ownership.

Be aware - they changed the seasons to different week groupings than VG and only have 2 and 3 Bd villas, but the SOs are cheap compared to some other resorts.

Also - I wrote about this before - something more is going on with VG villas than 'meets the eye' - while there is a claim they are difficult to impossible to exchange into - there are many unused and SVO rented villas during our week (24).
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Old September 13, 2007, 01:48 PM   #4
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Yes - studios and 1Bd villas are more numerous. Also, with the BV section opening - I think you will see more ability to excahnge into WSJ.. Unlike the VG villas - BV villas was held to a certain amount of fixed week ownership.

Be aware - they changed the seasons to different week groupings than VG and only have 2 and 3 Bd villas, but the SOs are cheap compared to some other resorts.

Also - I wrote about this before - something more is going on with VG villas than 'meets the eye' - while there is a claim they are difficult to impossible to exchange into - there are many unused and SVO rented villas during our week (24).
Do you think that its becuse its unsold inventory?
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Old September 13, 2007, 03:33 PM   #5
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I think its the fractional owners

The Hillside WSJ units were originally sold as fractionals; few of those owners use their entire allotment of weeks and either let them sit empty or try to rent them out.

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Old September 12, 2007, 06:30 PM   #6
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I'm looking to try and get early June 2008 and was wondering what size rooms if any would be most available.
You have to wait until 8 months from the date you want to check in to make the ressie. I've never stayed there but hope to one day. GOOD LUCK! Take whatever size villa they have, they are hard to come by!
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Old September 12, 2007, 08:29 PM   #7
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You would have to be pretty lucky to get that trade--most of the weeks there are fixed and most people aren't going to trade.
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Old September 14, 2007, 09:33 AM   #8
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Old September 16, 2007, 08:58 PM   #9
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I understand that there will only be 2 and 3 BR villas in the new BV construction.
Does anyone know if these will be lockoffs and there will be the opportunity to rent/exchange into a one bedroom (either premium or studio) portion of the lockoff?
This would certainly free up a lot more opportunity for SO exchanges into WSJ for those of us that could get by with a one bedroom situation.
Also what is the current completion date of these new units? December is the last I heard.
Are they all sold yet?
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Old September 16, 2007, 09:15 PM   #10
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Hi LoriannF,

Many Hillside WSJ were sold as fractionals but some number were also sold as single weeks. I owned a Studio Week 24 that was sold individually. It was a week 24 studio which I sold last year. Did a title search beack to the original deed where it was sold as a single week (versus being split off at some point in time).

My theory is that St. John is just so wonderful that people go each year and use their units.

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Old September 17, 2007, 12:56 AM   #11
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John - my prior post said for our week 24 ( 2 years now) - there seems to be quite a few empty units (1Bd/studios) and many SVO rentals.

The new BV will not be LOs.

The SO breakdown for seasons have changed somewhat between VG and BV.

They are still selling BV - not cheap. Whatever date SVO gives for completion - add extra months - things move slowly...

Eventually - the extra villas should loosen up inventory.
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Old September 17, 2007, 07:37 AM   #12
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I think there's still a lot of empty Hillside units

I agree with David and Robin - for our weeks, 17 and 18, the parking lot for the 3 bedrooms is usually pretty empty, and there are few people other than us using the shuttle. If you speak with sales, though, as we've done for the last few years, there are few if any units available for purchase.

I've spoken with a few other people we've met during our weeks there, and many are fractional owners; at least in the 3 beds.

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