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Old May 2, 2012, 11:27 AM   #51
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Anyone who doesn't believe that NY cops and firemen are the biggest pension scammers on the planet it asleep at the wheel.

Look up "heart presumption" sometime--this law (yes, it's the law) assumes that any heart problem whatsoever that arises for one of these uniformed guys is a direct result of the job. This means that the pension now goes un-taxed forever.

It doesn't matter what the person did to their body--piles of the proverbial doughnuts, packs of cigs, too much time at the local pub vs. the gym, etc.

The padding of police and fire pensions is as well documented as Donald Trump's hair. Plus the fact that the police and fire depts of NYC in particular are multi-generational. Fathers teach their sons around the dinner table how to maximize their pensions and create the next generation of pigs at the public trough.

Having said that, indeed there are heros in uniforms. But the percentage of these vs the shortimers who scam the pension system is laughably small.
I would say that is backwards - the scammers are in the minority just like they are in almost ANY profession, you just hear about them more.
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Old May 2, 2012, 12:41 PM   #52
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If you get kidnapped and robbed by crooked cops in Mexico. It's probably your own fault. Stands to reason. He was just asking for it.

And imagine retiring at 42 after surviving 20 years on the NYPD. The nerve. These damn 9-11 first-responders are the biggest gold brickers around. Especially the ones in the elite rescue squads.

And now he gets kidnapped and robbed in Mexico and goes crying to the NY Post. Why didn't he report it to the Mexican newspapers?

The police in Mexico don't kidnap you and hold you for ransom unless they have a very good reason to. It's very fishy.
Are you kidding Me ? Did you really think when you wrote this ?
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Old May 2, 2012, 06:05 PM   #53
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Anyone who doesn't believe that NY cops and firemen are the biggest pension scammers on the planet it asleep at the wheel.

Look up "heart presumption" sometime--this law (yes, it's the law) assumes that any heart problem whatsoever that arises for one of these uniformed guys is a direct result of the job. This means that the pension now goes un-taxed forever.

It doesn't matter what the person did to their body--piles of the proverbial doughnuts, packs of cigs, too much time at the local pub vs. the gym, etc.

The padding of police and fire pensions is as well documented as Donald Trump's hair. Plus the fact that the police and fire depts of NYC in particular are multi-generational. Fathers teach their sons around the dinner table how to maximize their pensions and create the next generation of pigs at the public trough.



Having said that, indeed there are heros in uniforms. But the percentage of these vs the shortimers who scam the pension system is laughably small.
Sullco. You sound like a flaming idiot. Where are your statistics. Just how high is the percentage of NYPD retirees receiving disabity vs a reg pension. Give me the link.

Are there scammers. You betcha. There are scammers in every part of society. Whether it be welfare recipients, disability cheats,unnecessary unemployment extensions ,timeshare salesman, etc.

Sitting around the dinner table was great with my children. Sometimes I would talk about work most times not. If I had run into an loser like you, we would have had a great laugh.

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Old May 2, 2012, 06:09 PM   #54
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I would say that is backwards - the scammers are in the minority just like they are in almost ANY profession, you just hear about them more.
You are so right Laura. With one exception timeshare salesman.
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Old May 2, 2012, 06:24 PM   #55
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You are so right Laura. With one exception timeshare salesman.
Let's make that two. Used car salesmen of yore were fore runners of today's time share salesman!
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