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BBS Reg. Date: Jan 9, 09
Location: Virginia [But a UNC Graduate & FAN]
Posts: 270
Resorts: Wyndham Ocean Blvd. Myrtle Beach (469,000 Points); Three Fixed Weeks Owned and Exchanged through RCI |
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If you are a FORMER RCI MEMBER, did you leave RCI because of a lack of Exchange Opportunities? If so YOU should be objecting to the Settlement. A former Member of RCI can claim the $15.00 and also OBJECT to the Settlement. Please consider filing an Objection. It is really very simple. You don't have to give reasons for your objection. JUST OBJECT! Go here to print out an objection form and mail it to the Court with a copy to the two gentlemen mentioned at the bottom of the form. http://rciclassactionlawsuit.com/TUG_member_information_and_instructions_for_RCI_cl ass_action_settlement.html Thank you in advance for OBJECTING!
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I have noticed that the Florida AG has been very active of late on timeshare issues. If blocking the sellout / settlement on the class action in the Fairness Hearing fails, then maybe he would be an AG who would be receptive to bringing a state Consumer Protection lawsuit against RCI on the rental issue.
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 12, 05
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 142
Resorts: Sea Time - Ocean City, MD |
I have a question about the class action lawsuit. Earlier in the year I was sent a claim form by RCI that had to be returned by April 6, 2009. At that time I (stupidly or naively) chose the option 2 - a 2 month extension of my RCI membership. I chose this option because my subscription to RCI ends 12/2010 and I hope not to renew (I still have 1 timeshare week that I hope I won't have by the end of next year - but that's another story). The card that I received from RCI stated - If you have previously submitted a claim form, you do not have to submit a new claim form. Are they referring to the claim forms sent earlier in the year? The options were different at that time. (the 2 year extention is not included nowhere to be found in the class action lawsuit). They sure know how to confuse us. Thanks.
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Nov 18, 05
Location: plano, TX
Posts: 39
Resorts: Starwood and points system. |
worldmark membership
Hi, I have a question: I quit RCI last April (2009). My resort is Worldmark membertship. Can I do the objection as the week's owner? (I am trying to put worldmark as resort ID). And if it doesn't work, I have sheraton mountain vista week which in 2008 belongs to RCI (now is with II) Could I put that week? Does anyone know the resort ID at that time?
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BBS Reg. Date: Aug 24, 09
Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
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Example of Deposited Week Used By RCI for Rental
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A search of TUG BBS should provide many examples such this one below from 2004 that I came upon by browsing tonight. Greg http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum23/HTML/001789.html suskey TUG Member Posts: 671 From: Middletown, NJ Owner - Vistana, Orlando, Vistana Beach Club, DIK, Casa Del Mar,Aruba Casitas Del Monte Registered: Dec 2000 posted 12-20-2004 03:58 Count me as another long time RCI member(since 1985) who is ready to jump ship due to RCI's questionable rental program. A few days ago I needed to cancel an internal exchange at a small resort I own in Palm Springs. Just to satisy my own curiosity, I checked both the availability for an exchange and the bonus week/rental section online right before I called and released the unit. Before...my unit did not appear in either a search or rental..after I released it..VOILA!!!- there was the week as a rental..within minutes!!! My question is this...I am currently looking for a week in Las Vegas. There are MANY rental weeks, but no exchanges available. Does RCI ever switch from the rental section to an exchange as the date gets closer and no rental occurs and a member has an online search going on for the resort that appears as a rental? RCI seems to have no problem taking members weeks and making them rentals, so does it work the other way??? Oh. by the way...after seeing the above for myself...that will be the last week I ever deposit a week in the RCI system. Add me to the long list of dissatisfied customers who feel RCI is engaging in dishonorable business practices. ------------------ Susan IP: Logged Madge TUG Member Posts: 3568 From: Carmel, IN Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-29-2004 10:17 Susan, Rental units that are not confirmed are indeed rolled into the exchange program as travel dates get closer - usually less than 7 days before travel. I've addressed the issue of rentals on TUG many times and expect it will continue to be a topic of interested discussion. It is difficult for me to comment on a specific scenario I did not witness and cannot verify for myself. However, it is possible for what you described to happen. When members exchange their weeks for cruises or use Points Partners transactions, RCI rents space to cover the costs of those services. Since those members deposited inventory with RCI Weeks or RCI Points, but aren't taking a corresponding vacation back out, RCI has rental "credits" based on what the members deposited. These credits may or may not be redeemed in the form of the same units that were deposited. For example, a member who took a cruise exchange may have deposited his week a year prior and it would already have been assigned to someone for exchange. In that case, we would use something comparable to his unit for the rental credit. Comparability is based on the same guidelines as Trading Power. Or, we might use something that would provide similar rental value, but would be less scarce in the exchange program. That way, the unit in higher demand for exchanges would be kept in the exchange system. From a reconciliation standpoint, RCI actually has a surplus of rental credits at the moment. So, to date, the exchange system has actually benefited from the fact that more members have exchanged into non-exchange inventory than we have taken back for rental. ------------------ ~ Madge |
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BBS Reg. Date: Jan 9, 09
Location: Virginia [But a UNC Graduate & FAN]
Posts: 270
Resorts: Wyndham Ocean Blvd. Myrtle Beach (469,000 Points); Three Fixed Weeks Owned and Exchanged through RCI |
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The fact that the class member has submitted a claim form for one of the benefits offered by RCI does NOT prevent the class member from later sending in an Objection to the settlement. The right to file a claim and the right to object are separate rights provided to every member of the class. TO ANYONE READING THIS POST: If you are a member of the class, you can object to the settlement if you don’t like any part of it. You do NOT have to give a reason for your objection. You can simply say: Quote:
But, if all you want to do is object and insure that the Court takes notice of your objection you can simply print out the Form Letter provided at rciclassactionlawsuit.com. To get direct access to the form letter use the link provided below. Once at the Instruction page go to Informational Instruction # 6. The site was set-up to help you and any other member of the class whose goal is to object. http://rciclassactionlawsuit.com/TUG_member_information_and_instructions_for_RCI_cl ass_action_settlement.html Fill in the information required, send the original SIGNED Form to the Clerk of Court and mail a copy to each of the two gentlemen whose addresses are at the bottom of the form. Thank you for in advance for sending in your OBJECTION.
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BBS Reg. Date: Jan 9, 09
Location: Virginia [But a UNC Graduate & FAN]
Posts: 270
Resorts: Wyndham Ocean Blvd. Myrtle Beach (469,000 Points); Three Fixed Weeks Owned and Exchanged through RCI |
Sheraton Mountain Vista, Avon, CO RCI # 6060
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You were a member of the class between January 1, 2000 and August 31, 2009. Hopefully, you know the RCI account number that you had prior to quitting RCI. If not you can probably get the number by simply calling RCI and asking them what your number was between 2000 and 2009. The Sheraton Mountain Vista resort in Avon, CO was listed in the RCI directory as RESORT # 6060. For purposes of objecting to the settlement, I recommend that you identify RESORT # 6060 when you fill out the Form Letter which you can access at Instruction # 6 at the following Link: http://rciclassactionlawsuit.com/TUG_member_information_and_instructions_for_RCI_cl ass_action_settlement.html
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BBS Reg. Date: Jan 9, 09
Location: Virginia [But a UNC Graduate & FAN]
Posts: 270
Resorts: Wyndham Ocean Blvd. Myrtle Beach (469,000 Points); Three Fixed Weeks Owned and Exchanged through RCI |
YES! A EUROPEAN or British RCI MEMBER CAN OBJECT.
On October 23rd at Post # 635 a Eurpoean that goes by the USERNAME: crazyhorse asked the following question:
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To get access to a simple Objection Form Letter go to: http://rciclassactionlawsuit.com/TUG_member_information_and_instructions_for_RCI_cl ass_action_settlement.html If you decide to object to the settlement get your objection postmarked and mailed on or before November 20, 2009. The earlier the better. Also, please share this infomation with others that you may know who are RCI Members or former RCI Members residing outside of the States.
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This raises a serious notice issue. Did they notify overseas members?
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Are you able to clarify for us if there is a difference between RCI Europe and the U.S. division which presumbly covers the U.S., Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean. And even the latter information has been received "second hand" and may not be accurate. Is RCI one large company with "branches" in other countries? |
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As to Carolinian`s question regarding RCI notifying me regarding the situation, I was well aware of the court case from the posts that have appeared here over the past two or three years. I was also aware of the "settlement" via this board, and had seen the posting both by RCI on their website and in one of the magazines that had been sent out. However I have not received either a personally addressed mail from them, either through the post or via email. I can only assume that this is the case with other European members. As side issue on this, I don`t know how many European members have knowledge of this case nor the issues involved. I know that many resorts will have their own websites, but how many are featuring the situation? The clubs must know about what is going on, but are they are keeping quiet about it? Can we honestly expect any support there? ![]() |
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BBS Reg. Date: Jan 9, 09
Location: Virginia [But a UNC Graduate & FAN]
Posts: 270
Resorts: Wyndham Ocean Blvd. Myrtle Beach (469,000 Points); Three Fixed Weeks Owned and Exchanged through RCI |
Earlier this afternoon, I sent an E-Mail to one of the counsel for the Plaintiffs in the RCI "Weeks" Class Action Lawsuit.
The pertinent part of my E-Mail made the following statement: The 2009 Directory of Affiliated Resorts (RCI publication DWK09) which was received by me in early October on page M5 says: Quote:
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BBS Reg. Date: Jan 9, 09
Location: Virginia [But a UNC Graduate & FAN]
Posts: 270
Resorts: Wyndham Ocean Blvd. Myrtle Beach (469,000 Points); Three Fixed Weeks Owned and Exchanged through RCI |
Msg For Any RCI Member Who Resides Outside of the United States!
If you were an RCI “Weeks” Member between January 1, 2000 and August 31, 2009 and you reside outside of the United States we need to hear from you.
Please record here whether or not you received a written notice from the SETTLEMENT ADMINISTRATOR between late September and today. The POST CARD should have said on the FRONT: Quote:
On the opposite side of the PC you should have seen the following statement followed by other verbiage in exceptionally small print. Quote:
If all you did was glance at the Post Card you may have gotten the impression that the overall purpose of the card was to tell you that you may be entitled to Benefits. There was only one full sentence about objection that sentence said: Quote:
That sentence was followed by this statement: Quote:
Even though you may NOT be a U. S. Citizen, you may be a Member of the Class and eligible to file a Claim for a Benefit and if you are a Member of the Class YOU DEFINITELY CAN SEND IN AN OBJECTION. Even though the Post Card said that you must file with the Clerk of the Court by November 20, 2009 please NOTE: YOUR OBJECTION MUST BE POSTMARKED by November 20, 2009. Again, please post here if you reside outside of the United States and did or did not get the above referenced notice.
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If the response was:
"The Court ordered notice program provided for publication notice to non US residents, in addition to the notice on RCI's website" that would mean that RCI was allowed to publish the information in some publication instead of sending a postcard and Email notice to the members who reside outside the United States. That's what they did the first go round with U.S. members. They published the first notice on page 94 of the March issue of Endless Vacations Magazine (that thing I toss into the reclycling bin without reading). RCI's attorneys also said in Court that they had published it in USA Today newspaper in February. That was sure to get the attention of millions of RCI members, right? At the "Fairness Hearing" in June, Shep Altshuler, Publisher of Timesharing Today Magazine, and Susan Collins, an attorney who is representing several Objectors, made a strong argument that the the members had received inadequate notice. The Judge agreed and ordered RCI to send a second notice by postcard and Email. If the members residing outside the U.S. did not receive at least an Email notice, I would think that that issue needs to be brought to the Court's attention. |
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Thirty One Days
How many of us have noticed that this 31 days in the Terms of the Settlement is the maximum period that a "desirable week" would be available in the Exchange Pool?
When a member deposits his own week say a year or more out, he will have on average only 15 days to grab that "desirable" week. The reason is, that "desirable" week may have been sitting in the Pool for between zero days and 31 days, i.e. average of 15 days. The period may even be less than that, for there may be variations in time between how quickly RCI can verify deposits. He is of course able to choose from one of the many other weeks in the Pool, some more desirable than others. ![]() |
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Once he has deposited, he can still wait until a new suitable week appears, provided that new one is deposited at least a year before its start date. ![]() |
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BBS Reg. Date: Oct 27, 05
Location: Maryland
Posts: 230
Resorts: Wyndham: Newport at Long Wharf, Branson, Star Island (Orlando), Nashville, Seawatch at Myrtle Beach |
Does RCI have to make a deposit available to an ongoing search inside of 1 Year?
I have been reading the terms of the proposed settlement and as I understand it, RCI must make a deposit available to an ongoing search that has sufficient trading power even if it is within a year of check-in.
I have had an ongoing search request tied to a generic deposit for just over a year. I had the VC place specific resort IDs in the search request. Yesterday, I noticed that rental units had become available for one of the resorts for many dates in 2010, including dates that I was requesting. When I called RCI, the guide told me that this resort ID was not in my search request. Maybe this was simple error on the part of the VC who placed the original search request; I know it was not an error on my part as I keep records of all my requests with dates and resort IDs. In any event, I had the resort added back to my search. I'm probably getting paranoid about a simple error, but the resort has not been offered to me for exchange and now I guess I am out of luck. |
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At one time at least two of RCI's overseas divisions were franchises, and that included South Africa. However, I think that now they have been bought out and are all company owned. BTW, you can PM me now if you wish. I deleted some messages.
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Dear Folks,
Is there a tutorial for what I'm supposed to do? I do not log on often enough to keep up. My eyes roll back in my head every time I try to sort through these posts. Help! Thank you. Kathleen |
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Northern, CA
Posts: 14,068
Resorts: Starwood-WKORV, SDO, & SVR, Branson-Roark Vacation Club, Tahoe-Kingsbury Crossing, Kauai Beach Villas - 2 weeks |
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Dear Goofyhobbie,
Thanks for your speedy help. Kathleen |
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Send an objection letter, with an original signature, to the Court ( If there are 2 or more owners listed on the RCI account, only one person's name and signature is required) AND a copy to the attorney for the Plaintiffs AND a copy to the attorney for the Defendant (RCI is the defendant). The original goes to: Clerk of Court U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey 402 East State Street Trenton, N.J. 08608 In the letter include RE: In re: Resort Condominiums International, LLC Civil Action No. 06-cv-1222 (PGS) I _____(your name)____________________________________object to the proposed settlement. (You can state one or more reasons for your objection, but it is not necessary to do so). Include your address Telephone number RCI account number RCI Resort name and I.D number of one resort you own. If there are 2 or more owners listed on the RCI account, only one person's name and signature is required At the bottom of your letter, indicate that you will be sending a copy to: cc: David C. Berman A Professional Corporation P.O. Box 111 Morristown, N.J. 07963-0111 cc: David S. Sager, Esq. DAY PITNEY LLP P.O. Box 1945 Morristown, N.J 07962 If you also wish to claim one of the specified one time benefits, you can do so online at: http://www.weeksprogramsettlement.com/pdf's/ClaimForm4.pdf Last edited by Jennie : November 8, 2009 at 10:52 PM. |
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I objected and mailed them. I emailed a few friends who own timeshares with explainations given here re the RCI suit with links, and 2 replied saying thanks as they had not truely understood exactly what it all meant from the tiny postcard they had gotten.
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