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Deflationgate part II

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x3 skier said:
I happen to think Olberman is one of the world's bigger jerks but I though that clip was right on the money. I especially liked the tinfoil hat. :D

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The Jerk shop called, they are out of you.
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Wow. The BS contained in the Patriots response to the Wells Report is down right comical. :rofl::rofl:

http://wellsreportcontext.com/

Patriots lawyers say McNally referred to himself as deflator because he was trying to lose weight.....

Right, and if you believe that. I have some oceanfront property in AZ for you. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
 
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You know who should be suspended from football? Pete Carroll for not running the ball at the end of the SB!

Still… why don't teams use the same set of balls? Having followed football for years - I was not aware of this until deflategate.
 
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DavidnRobin said:
You know who should be suspended from football? Pete Carroll for not running the ball at the end of the SB!
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Agreed. Please dont bring up the SB again. :(

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Still… why don't teams use the same set of balls? Having followed football for years - I was not aware of this until deflategate.
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You're going to love the answer to this...

They did, until 2006. In 2006, they changed it to where the Offense would now provide their own balls going forward.

It was championed by two players...want to guess who one of them was?

If you said Tom Brady, you get a cookie!
 
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It was championed by two players...want to guess who one of them was?

If you said Tom Brady, you get a cookie!
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Wow. Was the other Peyton Manning?
It amazes me that NFL allowed this - for this exact reason.
 
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Question: If the Patriots organization did nothing wrong, then why are those 2 Patriot equipment guys suspended indefinitely without pay? :cool::rolleyes:
 
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Question: If the Patriots organization did nothing wrong, then why are those 2 Patriot equipment guys suspended indefinitely without pay? :cool::rolleyes:
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Yep. And no one yelling about how unfair it is to them, either.
 
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Clemson Fan said:
Question: If the Patriots organization did nothing wrong, then why are those 2 Patriot equipment guys suspended indefinitely without pay? :cool::rolleyes:
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I'm pretty sure that was part of the NFL punishment.
 
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Nope. It was completely a club decision and NOT an NFL decision.
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You may be right... I sure don't get it though, it appears to be a combined effort. Here's what I heard.

Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.
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http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/c...ent-tom-brady-new-england-patriots-punishment
 
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Part of the action by the NFL

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Kraft's statement tonight leaves the door open for appeal with that "however" thrown in ...

"Despite our conviction that there was no tampering with footballs, it was our intention to accept any discipline levied by the league. Today’s punishment, however, far exceeded any reasonable expectation. It was based completely on circumstantial rather than hard or conclusive evidence."

"We are humbled by the support the New England Patriots have received from our fans throughout the world. We recognize our fans’ concerns regarding the NFL’s penalties and share in their disappointment in how this one-sided investigation was handled, as well as the dismissal of the scientific evidence supported by the Ideal Gas Law in the final report."

"Tom Brady has our unconditional support. Our belief in him has not wavered."

Did anybody ever really believe that they'd sit and take whatever the league handed down without at least trying to discredit it? Not me - living here you learn very quickly that the Pats are the league's scapegoats and they never ever never ever never NEVER EVER get a fair shake. "Haters gonna hate, winners gonna win, blahblahblah" :rolleyes:
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Kraft is accepting the decision of the league. No Patriots' appeal.
 
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Kraft is accepting the decision of the league. No Patriots' appeal.
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Yup, that's very revealing. They can do all the PR saber rattling they want, but when the rubber meets the road they don't really want to bring this to court. You see if it goes to court then you must allow further and complete discovery with subpoena powers that the Wells investigation didn't have. No way they want that. That's why I'll eat my shirt if Brady ever sues. There's no way he'll want his cell phone and text messages part of the public record. Brady will appeal and then he'll accept the final decision whatever it is and move on with no further legal action.
 
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I feel their move is to late. Fans, NFL teams & others out side of Mass. feels this organization will do anything or what ever it takes to win including cheating at all levels.
 
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I feel their move is to late. Fans, NFL teams & others out side of Mass. feels this organization will do anything or what ever it takes to win including cheating at all levels.
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Yeah, but it wasn't Deflategate that started it, and I would hold the same opinion regardless of the outcome of this. they aren't newly dirty.
 
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Just a comment about the Patriot's lawyer saying McNally referred to himself as the deflator in reference to his losing weight. Strangely that might be true BUT he could well have done this jokingly given his history of deflating footballs. When later he started to try to reduce weight, this bizarre reference to loosing weight might simply have been a tongue in cheek remark given that he was trying to do to himself what he had been doing to footballs.

Admittedly speculation, but it is the best explanation I can come up with as to how the lawyers could have put this in their report without outright lying. What they didn't do (if the above theory is right) is go on to explain how McNally came up with this odd reference to losing weight.
 
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Not a chance. Not when you say this after making the "deflator" comment. I'm sure ESPN was interested in hearing about his weight loss. :rolleyes:

McNally:
Chill buddy im just f***in with you ....im not going to
espn........yet
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Unless Brady or the Patriots are paying them off for life, wouldn't the absolute truth eventually come out in the open at some point? I'm willing to bet it will.
 
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Unless Brady or the Patriots are paying them off for life, wouldn't the absolute truth eventually come out in the open at some point? I'm willing to bet it will.
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Hmmm, maybe. I think most involved want it to die and go away. If there aren't threats and intimidation to keep it quiet, there is simple passage of time and possibility of new scandal squirrel on someone elses field.
 
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ace2000 said:
Unless Brady or the Patriots are paying them off for life, wouldn't the absolute truth eventually come out in the open at some point? I'm willing to bet it will.
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Seems to me it already has.:D

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