BCSRentals - Ebay seller

SuperBeav39 · Aug 12, 2015

AMEX to the rescue

I got a reply that, summarized, said "Marriott is lying to you but if that's what you want, fine." She said they would pass my documents to accounting to refund my AMEX.

I don't have a lot of faith in that process being fast, so I called AMEX (who my payment date is rapidly approaching) and worked with their fraud department to suspend the transaction. Additionally AMEX said they would assist in getting the refund. So that's fantastic, thanks AMEX!

I hope that it's smooth sailing from here on out. When I have time later I'll list all of the red flags that I ignored in this transaction based on my hopes that I could score this great deal. I'm embarrassed that I went so far down this road with this company. but hopefully my experience can help other people from falling into the same trap.

scottlovestravel · Dec 1, 2015

Hello SuperBeav39 and others on this thread,
SuperBeav39, did you get your refund? Did anyone else actually complete a timeshare purchase with BCS Rental?

Thanks

gottspd · Jan 19, 2016

Bumping this thread to see if anyone has been successful closing a transaction with BCS...

Robert D · Jan 20, 2016

I noticed they had a Barony Beach platinum summer week auction that just ended. I didn't bid because I couldn't get comfortable with the seller. It sold for about $5K plus about $550 in closing costs which I assume is a good price if it's legit.

Rman · Jan 20, 2016

I tried bidding on some items for hawaii resale for westin, they sent me a second offer, when I asked question on the unit and the view,etc.. they couldn`t offer any response, claimed auction should be anonymous so couldn`t give me any correct details about the auction. They didn`t sell me anything and stopped me from bidding on any of their inventory. Do not think is legit, but curious if any successfull buyers doesn`t seem to be any verified etc.

theo · Jan 21, 2016

In the absence of any successfully completed "BCS Rentals" transactions in this thread (or in others, for that matter), one might reasonably assume that (again / still?) BCS Rentals doesn't actually even have the product initially "offered" in the first place. That would be consistent with the former redweeksforless / IA Vacations pattern, in which the advertising is (inadvertently or deliberately) inaccurate and ultimately, only something other than the advertised product is "available" for purchase.
A bad faith / bad business practice and pattern --- and a "reseller" to be scrupulously avoided, at least IMnsHO. YMMV.

karenmb · Jan 24, 2016

I just wanted to add to this thread as I was a recent VICTIM of BCSRENTALS on EBAY. In November I was the successful for "Marriott Barony Beach Annual 2br Platinum Hilton Head South Carolina Timeshare." I had to pay within three day the full amount. After 40 days of not hearing anything I posting a neutral review on ebay stating the following. "It has been 40 days, no update yet on RORF from seller.I'm concerned" Seller posted "Deed sent to recording, buyer updated" I received an email on 1/22/2016 that they were unable to sell this timeshare unit to me because their seller backed out. This email came only after i insisted on hard factual information and threaten to notify ebay and i was retracting my fund from American Express. Today i file a request for fund to be returned from American Express. They also blocked me from any further purchases and when I called them on it they denied it. I am not sure who these people are or person is, and why they are doing this. They had my money ( over $6000) for over 60 days. I really don't think they have any timeshares to sell. ....my new follow-up today 1/24/2016 on ebay
"seller cancelled sale, unable to sell/close. contact me, kmbcollect for details." I hope this helps all who might be bidding on their auctions. Still looking for the above timeshare if you are selling or or at Grand Ocean. Thanks
Just checked on ebay.... they have no timeshares up for sale.......

gottspd · Jan 24, 2016

They blocked me as well (after I'd didn't go through with that the sale).

theo · Jan 25, 2016

An imminent "BCS Rentals reinvention" -- by name change?

karenmb said:
<snip> Just checked on ebay.... they have no timeshares up for sale.......

Maybe (still another) "name change" is now in the works in order to attempt (still another) "fresh start"?

A "disappear, then reemerge later with a brand new eBay name" strategy is ultimately difficult; the Internet makes it relatively easy to still connect the dots.

joeyb1180 · Jan 25, 2016

I've tracked BCS for months when I started this thread.
BCS has had many multiple auctions shit down after complaints and they haven't changed names yet, they eventually come back. They also pad their feedback by cheap auctions as a buyer so looking at it quickly you think the feedback is full of positive bc not everybody will look to see that the feedback is based on being a buyer, no a seller; because who is going to think that a "company" user ID is going to use their account for their own purchases.

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karenmb · Jan 25, 2016

My questions..... Why Ebay has allows them to continue this kind operation, as ebay has been may aware in the pass? What is bcsrentals MO ( Mode of operation)? What do they do with the funds ?... are they Check Kiting funds for personal us? Check kiting is a form of check fraud, involving taking advantage of the float to make use of non-existent funds in a checking or other bank account. In this way, instead of being used as a negotiable instrument, checks are misused as a form of unauthorized credit.

joeyb1180 · Jan 25, 2016

gottspd said:
They blocked me as well (after I'd didn't go through with that the sale).

Who blocked you? eBay or BCS Rentals?

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joeyb1180 · Jan 25, 2016

karenmb said:
My questions..... Why Ebay has allows them to continue this kind operation, as ebay has been may aware in the pass? What is bcsrentals MO ( Mode of operation)? What do they do with the funds ?... are they Check Kiting funds for personal us? Check kiting is a form of check fraud, involving taking advantage of the float to make use of non-existent funds in a checking or other bank account. In this way, instead of being used as a negotiable instrument, checks are misused as a form of unauthorized credit.

It's a great question and I've thought the same. Which is also why I opened up an ic3.gov ticket but who knows if that will go anywhere. eBay has records of all these complaints but continue to allow it. It's baffling.

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karenmb · Jan 25, 2016

BCSRENTALS blocked me from bidding. and also blocked me from sending them messages on ebay.

Robert D · Jan 26, 2016

karenmb said:
I just wanted to add to this thread as I was a recent VICTIM of BCSRENTALS on EBAY. In November I was the successful for "Marriott Barony Beach Annual 2br Platinum Hilton Head South Carolina Timeshare." I had to pay within three day the full amount. After 40 days of not hearing anything I posting a neutral review on ebay stating the following. "It has been 40 days, no update yet on RORF from seller.I'm concerned" Seller posted "Deed sent to recording, buyer updated" I received an email on 1/22/2016 that they were unable to sell this timeshare unit to me because their seller backed out. This email came only after i insisted on hard factual information and threaten to notify ebay and i was retracting my fund from American Express. Today i file a request for fund to be returned from American Express. They also blocked me from any further purchases and when I called them on it they denied it. I am not sure who these people are or person is, and why they are doing this. They had my money ( over $6000) for over 60 days. I really don't think they have any timeshares to sell. ....my new follow-up today 1/24/2016 on ebay
"seller cancelled sale, unable to sell/close. contact me, kmbcollect for details." I hope this helps all who might be bidding on their auctions. Still looking for the above timeshare if you are selling or or at Grand Ocean. Thanks
Just checked on ebay.... they have no timeshares up for sale.......

I hope you're able to get your money back from AMEX. The auction that I passed on bidding on was a Barony Beach and sounds like it was probably not real either.

Quadmaniac · Jan 30, 2016

Personally it seems like a ponsi scheme to me. When Marriott "exercised" the ROFR (which I have no proof of) it took many months to get money back from VP Title after numerous emails and calls. Its amazing how you can never talk to the person handling your file, but when they are looking for payment, they are on you. I keep seeing them relist the same deed over and over again, probably selling it to multiple people, taking their money in escrow to use that money to pay someone else back their money, thus the constant delay. The Ko Olina OV unit is a prime example as well as a Grand Vista unit.

In any case I would stay away from anyone associated with VP Title. Its just a gong show....

karenmb · Feb 8, 2016

Because I paid with American express money has been refunded after I processed a claim. Resolved in 2 weeks. All money refunded on 2/5/2016

joeyb1180 · Mar 27, 2016

Hi everybody, this thread went quiet which is a good thing, it means less victims. As probably the biggest advocate against the eBay seller BCS Rentals, I can happily report they have not had any listings in over 2 months. So I would say be careful and be on the lookout of any new sellers in timeshare space in case they go under a different alias. Thanks everybody!

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TheTimeTraveler · Mar 27, 2016

joeyb1180 said:
Hi everybody, this thread went quiet which is a good thing, it means less victims. As probably the biggest advocate against the eBay seller BCS Rentals, I can happily report they have not had any listings in over 2 months. So I would say be careful and be on the lookout of any new sellers in timeshare space in case they go under a different alias. Thanks everybody!

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The newest alias is J_Worl4

There has got to be a reason they keep changing names......

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joeyb1180 · Mar 27, 2016

TheTimeTraveler said:
The newest alias is J_Worl4

There has got to be a reason they keep changing names......

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Thanks for the info TheTimeTraveler! I just continue to try to do my part so nobody has the past experience I had!!

Quadmaniac · Mar 27, 2016

Just as a note, they keep auction off Ko Olina units repeatedly - Same ad, same description. I think they are taking the money and taking months to "process" which finally get ROFR supposedly and take their time refunding the money. Just beware. I had backed out of the Ko Olina auction after I won and saw that they were associated with VP title which jacked me around.

newportbeach · Mar 28, 2016

I NEVER COULD CLOSE MY PURCHASE. FINALLY THEY CLAIMED THE SELLER REVOKED THEIR POWER OF ATTORNEY AND THE TS WON'T PROCEED.

I AM NOT PLEASED WITH THEM. ANY CHANCE YOU HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR THEM. I COULD NOT LOCATE ONE. :crash:

Quadmaniac · Mar 28, 2016

RichardL said:
I NEVER COULD CLOSE MY PURCHASE. FINALLY THEY CLAIMED THE SELLER REVOKED THEIR POWER OF ATTORNEY AND THE TS WON'T PROCEED.

I AM NOT PLEASED WITH THEM. ANY CHANCE YOU HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR THEM. I COULD NOT LOCATE ONE.

I could try to find it but I could never get the person on the phone anyways and they don't return calls, so it would be a total waste of time. I got the run around for over 2 months.

TheTimeTraveler · Mar 28, 2016

RichardL said:
I NEVER COULD CLOSE MY PURCHASE. FINALLY THEY CLAIMED THE SELLER REVOKED THEIR POWER OF ATTORNEY AND THE TS WON'T PROCEED.

I AM NOT PLEASED WITH THEM. ANY CHANCE YOU HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR THEM. I COULD NOT LOCATE ONE.

I don't have a phone number for them but you could try several email addresses:

bcsrent_gui6856najm@members.ebay.com

resorts@bcsrentalcompany.com

These email addresses are a few months old so I have no idea if they are still valid (though I suspect they are).

Maybe they'll be kind enough to email you their phone number (but I doubt it).

Best of luck and please keep us posted.

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theo · Mar 28, 2016

TheTimeTraveler said:
The newest alias is J_Worl4
There has got to be a reason they keep changing names......

Not challenging your proclamation / conclusion, but I am nonetheless curious about the factual basis on which you "connect the dots" back to BCS Rentals. :shrug:

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