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We currently own 5800 Gold from Hilton Grand Vacations Club at Tuscany Village
and am beginning to explore purchasing more BUT AT RESALE.

With us having Gold already should we consider getting another that is Gold or once combined are points points?

Thanks for any advice.
 

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We currently own 5800 Gold from Hilton Grand Vacations Club at Tuscany Village
and am beginning to explore purchasing more BUT AT RESALE.

With us having Gold already should we consider getting another that is Gold or once combined are points points?

Thanks for any advice.

I don't claim to know a single thing about HGVC, but I would point out that there is a Hilton / HGVC-specific forum here on TUG.
You would likely directly reach more Hilton-knowedgeable players with your Hilton-specific question over there, rather than here. Just sayin'.

Maybe a moderator will actually move your post over to the Hilton / HGVC forum anyhow. :shrug:
 
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Points are points. Whether your next purchase is Platinum, Gold, Silver or Bronze, they will all be in the same bucket every year.

I am a fan of Gold because the buy in, even in resale, is much less than Platinum. Most people here will tell you to only buy Platinum because you get more points for your MFs than you do with Gold, but you need to do the math over the span of 10 - 20 years of ownership to see where the break even point is. For me it wasn't worth paying much more upfront knowing that I might be dead or not want timeshares anymore by the time my break even point hit.
 

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I am in a similar situation, i own a gold week for 5000 points at the LV Strip, but plan to add a second week in 2015 or 2016.

As Presely said points are points, so I don't think it really matters if you buy Silver, Gold or Platinum.. it comes down to the cost per point and meeting your needs.

For me, the main question is how many points do i want, both now and in the future. How much time do you want to spend on a timeshare vacation every year, and are tied to certain times of year, such as the school schedule..

I hope to retire in 10 or 15 years, and would like to travel 5 to 8 weeks a year, with about half that in Timeshares, So for the question becomes do I buy a larger platinum week earlier to get the best point to MF value, or buy gold or less expensive weeks over time to build up the points over time.

How many points you think you ultimately want each year or where you plan to travel?
 

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Thanks everyone.

Yes, cost is a factor. Not fully sure what I am looking for. Just researching at this point. Have a 14 yo and a 16yo and it's nice to get 3br where they can bring friends but then it limits us to 1 vacations year. We live in Virginia and have to fly to every location except Myrtle Beach so that is a factor as well.
Am doing research on RCI traders but the quality is so low compared to Hilton.
 

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As noted in other threads on this subject, the "color" of the points have no real meaning. A point is a point is a point.

HOWEVER, the color refers to the season of the underlying unit those points are tied to. For example, a Platinum season 1 bdrm is worth more points than and Gold or Silver season one bedroom.

Here are the HGVC point values for a straight one bedroom unit per season.

Platinum = 4800
Gold = 3400
Silver = 2400
Bronze = 1700

Where this really matters for all purchasers (deveolper or resale) is that maintenance fees are tied to the unit size you own, not the season or # of points that unit generates.

Using a real life example, I paid $640.25 for our maintenance fees this past year on a 1 Bdrm at the LV Convention Center (Karen Ave.) property. That amount is the same for all season owners of 1 bdrm units at this property.

So if you break down the cost of your points by season, you quickly realize that it's quite a bit more expensive per point to own a lower point season.

Thus:

Platinum = 4800 (13.3 cents/point)
Gold = 3400 (19 cents/point)
Silver = 2400 (26.7 cents/point)
Bronze = 1700 (37.8 cents/point)

This in addition to whatever you paid for the dead in the purchase price.
 

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Am doing research on RCI traders but the quality is so low compared to Hilton.

If you are considering doing regular vacations that are not HGVC, I would look at buying into another system. The fees for Hilton are so much higher than most of the other systems and if you are going to trade your Hilton points on a regular basis for a lower quality resort in RCI, you can save a significant amount of money over a few years.
 

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If you are considering doing regular vacations that are not HGVC, I would look at buying into another system. The fees for Hilton are so much higher than most of the other systems and if you are going to trade your Hilton points on a regular basis for a lower quality resort in RCI, you can save a significant amount of money over a few years.

Oh, Oh, your in trouble now :eek: :hysterical:

Check out the Grandview in Las Vegas, as a good RCI trader, RCI Points not weeks. Very low buy-in, at least it was, and very low MF's.

Save the HGVC for HGVC trades. Use the GV for trading into HGVC and for all other RCI trades. You will have to purchase your own RCI account, but it works for me :D

Check this out, 80K points like I have, although you can get more points for more $$:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/80-000-RCI-...41354703322?pt=Timeshares&hash=item20e96599da
 
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Check out the Grandview in Las Vegas, as a good RCI trader, RCI Points not weeks. Very low buy-in, at least it was, and very low MF's.

Save the HGVC for HGVC trades. Use the GV for trading into HGVC and for all other RCI trades. You will have to purchase your own RCI account, but it works for me :D

Since I am currently downsizing my timeshares, I know I shouldn't be asking..... but, I want to know....
How many RCI points does it normally cost to trade into a week at Elara or HHV in a one bedroom? I see that contract in your link is for $80K points. Just wondering if that is enough for a week in Hilton.
 

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Here is a list of RCI points

https://www.rci.com/CDA/Common/pdf/2013_NA_Points_Grids.pdf

And yes, I agree use HGVC to go to HGVC resorts and not trade into RCI with them.

First: I hadn't seen that chart before today.

Second: The first thing that I noticed looking at the chart is that the points required to stay in a 1 or 2 Bdrm for a week seemed high. I don't know if these are the max points that they can charge for an exchange?

Third: The list is not all inclusive, there are a lot of TS's missing, specifically many of the HGVC's. I wanted to check the chart for HGVC Eagles Nest in Marco Island, FL, where we stayed, but all of Marco Island was missing, even non-HGVC. I wanted to check the chart & compare the points to what we used for the HGVC Bay Club, HHV Lagoon Tower, & HHV Kaila Tower in Hawaii, but they were missing off the chart. I didn't notice all of the HGVC's in Las Vegas.

Fourth: I have a confirmed RCI exchange for the Jockey Club, here in Las Vegas, for week 52 over New Years. The chart shows 71 points, but I'm only using 60 RCI Points.

Fifth: The points required for the Manhattan Club seem high.

At least the chart may give you a ruff idea (max) of how many points you may need, if the TS your interested in is on the chart.
 

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. . . Using a real life example, I paid $640.25 for our maintenance fees this past year on a 1 Bdrm at the LV Convention Center (Karen Ave.) property. That amount is the same for all season owners of 1 bdrm units at this property.

So if you break down the cost of your points by season, you quickly realize that it's quite a bit more expensive per point to own a lower point season.

Thus:

Platinum = 4800 (13.3 cents/point)
Gold = 3400 (19 cents/point)
Silver = 2400 (26.7 cents/point)
Bronze = 1700 (37.8 cents/point)

This in addition to whatever you paid for the dead in the purchase price.

Well stated UWSurfer. And when you realize that 45 cents/point is about the most value you can get out of your HGVC point, silver and bronze lose their appeal. Furthermore, 13.3 cents/HGVC point translates to 0.532 cents per HHonor point, so converting to HHonors is generally going to be a bad idea.
 
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