College Football Playoff Predictions!

am1 said:

Yes that is why it would not being easy. The lines are drawn in stone. If there were 4 12 team conferences, year in year out the best teams could come from there. I appreciate the history (whats left) and hope it does not go that way.

Expanding the tournament would take away from the regular season. I think the season is long enough as it is. But hopefully it is all a work in progress.

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Follow the money ... the bowl games are big money for the schools involved and won't be going away anytime soon.

Fitting and expanded playoff structure into the bowl game structure is why it won't happen - unless some smart bloke figures out how to keep the pay for the schools the same.

Like the NFL - they really don't care who wins - because they all get'in paid!

Clemson Fan said:

I have to admit that I'm a little surprised that MSU is at 4. Now instead of beating 3 Top 10 teams in a row they only have a single win against a Top 25 team.

I still think that if TCU, Baylor or OSU win out that one of them will eventually jump MSU to the 4th position assuming MSU wins the Egg Bowl. My best guess is that OSU will make it in mainly because the Big 10 has a championship game and the Big 12 does not. I think having won the regular season conference championship AND the conference championship game will hold a lot of weight with the committee and will brake a tie when they compare them to MSU. I don't think TCU nor Baylor have enough left in their schedule which lacks a championship game to be able to jump a MSU team that wins the Egg bowl.

Here's my updated playoff prediction (not like anybody cares :hysterical:

Alabama
Oregon
FSU
OSU

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What if Auburn beats Bama and Ole Miss whips up on MSU???? OMG

BTW - I am ecstatic about the idea of the Ducks obliterating the Noles on a neutral field.

Clemson Fan said:

They probably did get paid and you know what, I'm not against them getting paid. I never was. I think they, including Winston, should get paid for their autograph if they can. Why should all the money go to some sleazy autograph dealer?

My beef isn't with Winston getting paid. It's with how Jimbo defended it all. It made Jimbo look like a fool and at FSU it looks like Jimbo exerts very little disciplinary control over his program.

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guess you didnt read the article today that has signature experts pointing out this huge number of winston "signings" are likely forgeries.

I suppose it is easier to assume someone is guilty, vs wait for proof of it though.

ampaholic said:

BTW - I am ecstatic about the idea of the Ducks obliterating the Noles on a neutral field.

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oregon would have to develop a defense for that to happen.

at least florida state has one that plays half a game each week!

TUGBrian said:

guess you didnt read the article today that has signature experts pointing out this huge number of winston "signings" are likely forgeries.

I suppose it is easier to assume someone is guilty, vs wait for proof of it though.

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Like I said, I don't really care if Winston got paid or not. If the forgery "excuse" was the first one Winston and Jimbo rolled out that would've been their best play. However, why are they now saying they're forgeries now over a month after the story broke? Instead Jimbo's initial play was that he signed them at baseball games and after practices and that Winston told him he didn't get paid for all those autographs. Why didn't Winston say they were forgeries or Jimbo suggest they were forgeries back then? If they made that claim back then it would be more believable unless of course your viewing things through Garnett tinted glasses.

BTW, the PSA expert is not saying they're forgeries. They're just saying that they aren't comfortable validating them because Winston wouldn't agree to sign in front of them. That's actually a smart move by Winston.

ampaholic said:

BTW - I am ecstatic about the idea of the Ducks obliterating the Noles on a neutral field.

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You mean like they did against Auburn and Cam Newton a few years ago!

If you're able to get physical with Oregon they will fold like a K-mart deck chair!

Clemson Fan said:

Like I said, I don't really care if Winston got paid or not. If the forgery "excuse" was the first one Winston and Jimbo rolled out that would've been their best play. However, why are they now saying they're forgeries now over a month after the story broke? Instead Jimbo's initial play was that he signed them at baseball games and after practices and that Winston told him he didn't get paid for all those autographs. Why didn't Winston say they were forgeries or Jimbo suggest they were forgeries back then? If they made that claim back then it would be more believable unless of course your viewing things through Garnett tinted glasses.

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how on earth would winston or fisher have any idea these were forgeries when asked at the time?

Unlike the general public...its much easier to just let the folks paid to investigate matters like this do so...and release their findings...which is apparently being done.

Its ESPN and the NYT that build their click empire through publishing inflammatory stories with no real evidence to back them up...and millions of folks eat it up and form the opinion the story is slanted to portray.

BTW, the PSA expert is not saying they're forgeries. They're just saying that they aren't comfortable validating them because Winston wouldn't agree to sign in front of them. That's actually a smart move by Winston.

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did you even read the article at all completely? Im finding it hard to believe so given that NEITHER of the experts who were quoted in the story work for PSA.

heres a quote from the article.

Ron Keurajian, a Baseball Hall of Fame autograph specialist, said that in his opinion, "These Winston autographs from the supposed signing are done by more than one hand. His authentic signature is very unstructured, which makes it harder to authenticate, but there are many here that actually are structured very well."

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TUGBrian said:

oregon would have to develop a defense for that to happen.

at least florida state has one that plays half a game each week!

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I'm thinking 46-7 at halftime and the Ducks hold on to win 52-49 in the second half :rofl:

lol, thats certainly not an outrageous score prediction!

I would gander the over/under on that particular matchup would be nearly 100!

Clemson Fan said:

You mean like they did against Auburn and Cam Newton a few years ago!

If you're able to get physical with Oregon they will fold like a K-mart deck chair!

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That team has for the most part graduated - this is COLLEGE football - new team every two years.

Or are you still waiting for C. J. Spiller to go wild against FSU?

I am not in favor of an expanded number of playoff games at the expense of regular season games. Are hundreds of teams supposed to play a shorter season so a few can play more games?

There is plenty of time now between the end of the regular season and the National Title Game to have a few rounds of playoffs.

We all will still decide who we think is the top team and on down the line. We don't need a committee of twelve to tell us this. The only reason they exist is to make mega bucks for the NCAA and where ever they spend it.

I truly enjoyed the old system better, before the BCS. I want to see the Big 10 champ play the PAC 12 champ in the Rose Bowl, etc. I don't need this arbitrary system to enjoy the games.

ampaholic said:

That team has for the most part graduated - this is COLLEGE football - new team every two years.

Or are you still waiting for C. J. Spiller to go wild against FSU?

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Seriously, when has Oregon EVER won a big game? They've been a perennial Top 5 team for the past 10 years, but whenever they face a SEC team they invariably get beat. Even lowly Clemson takes on SEC teams and occasionally beats them like Georgia, LSU and Auburn in the last 3 years. Oregon can only beat Big 10 teams out of conference.

TUGBrian said:

how on earth would winston or fisher have any idea these were forgeries when asked at the time?

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Seriously, don't you think the first thing out of Winston's mouth over a month ago would've been, "Hey coach, I never signed those items." Winston should know as its HIS signature. Instead, Winston first said he didn't get paid to sign those items. Forgery turns out to be like the 5th or 6th excuse well over a month after the story broke. I'm surprised it took FSU's media department this long to get those forgery stories printed!

TUGBrian said:

Unlike the general public...its much easier to just let the folks paid to investigate matters like this do so...and release their findings...which is apparently being done.

Its ESPN and the NYT that build their click empire through publishing inflammatory stories with no real evidence to back them up...and millions of folks eat it up and form the opinion the story is slanted to portray.

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It's not a criminal act, so no authority is ever going to investigate it.

So now you're comparing ESPN and the NYT to Joe's sports blog? Poor FSU, those completely unreliable and inflammatory Internet blogs of ESPN and the NYT are picking on them!

Clemson Fan said:

Seriously, when has Oregon EVER won a big game? They've been a perennial Top 5 team for the past 10 years, but whenever they face a SEC team they invariably get beat. Even lowly Clemson takes on SEC teams and occasionally beats them like Georgia, LSU and Auburn in the last 3 years. Oregon can only beat Big 10 teams out of conference.

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Not a big Ducks fan by any means, but they did win the Fiesta and the Rose in back-to-back years. If not for a semi-flukish play, they certainly could have beaten Auburn in the MNC game a few years back. Not like it was a blowout.

TUGBrian said:

did you even read the article at all completely? Im finding it hard to believe so given that NEITHER of the experts who were quoted in the story work for PSA.

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Here you go:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...-jameis-winston-items-due-legitimacy-concerns

Elan said:

Not a big Ducks fan by any means, but they did win the Fiesta and the Rose in back-to-back years. If not for a semi-flukish play, they certainly could have beaten Auburn in the MNC game a few years back. Not like it was a blowout.

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Oregon is good, but I have NO faith in them being able to win it all. If there's a SEC team in this years playoff, I would only give Oregon a 5% chance of winning the playoff. I'll actually be rooting for them (unless it's against Georgia) because I would like nothing better then to see the SEC crowd get silenced. At least FSU was able to silence the SEC crowd last year.

Interestingly, I was at that Rose Bowl a couple of years ago when Oregon played Wisconsin. It was a very entertaining game!

Clemson Fan said:

Oregon is good, but I have NO faith in them being able to win it all. If there's a SEC team in this years playoff, I would only give Oregon a 5% chance of winning the playoff. I'll actually be rooting for them (unless it's against Georgia) because I would like nothing better then to see the SEC crowd get silenced. At least FSU was able to silence the SEC crowd last year.

Interestingly, I was at that Rose Bowl a couple of years ago when Oregon played Wisconsin. It was a very entertaining game!

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Oregon has always under-emphasized defense. They are tough to prepare for because their offense is so dynamic. But the extra weeks given to prepare for bowl games neutralizes some of that offensive advantage.

In general, I am pretty ambivalent toward the Ducks, don't really care if they win or lose. But that typically changes depending on who they're playing.

Clemson Fan said:

Seriously, when has Oregon EVER won a big game? They've been a perennial Top 5 team for the past 10 years, but whenever they face a SEC team they invariably get beat. Even lowly Clemson takes on SEC teams and occasionally beats them like Georgia, LSU and Auburn in the last 3 years. Oregon can only beat Big 10 teams out of conference.

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So far this year Oregon has scored 460 points while opponents have scored 250, roughly HALF as many points - that seems like a fairly good recipe for success.

FYI - FSU opponents have scored 228 on the Noles - an average of only 3 points less per game than the Ducks - yet I don't hear you whining about their "lack of gumption" or complaining they can't beat the SEC.

In the last 5 years Oregon has only played 2 SEC teams - and granted the Ducks lost both those games - one was against #1 Auburn by 3 lousy points and the other was against #2 LSU and was the first game of the 2011 season.

Besides the fact that those teams no longer exist - two fairly close and competitive losses don't "define" a program.

Perhaps a record of 54-8 over the last five years is a better reflection of Duck Football -as is a respectable 45-18 for Clemson.

Clemson lost to #1 Auburn the very same year the Ducks did and they lost to Georgia a few years later - and they always seem to find a way to loose to South Carolina (SEC East).

Sure Clemson has won against four mostly unranked SEC teams in the last five years - but that doesn't give you the right to imply that their record is somehow "better" than the Ducks simply because they play the SEC much more than the Ducks do.

Especially considering their record for the last five years is 4-6 against the SEC - certainly not knocking them dead.

So - at least be reasonable with your whines.

Clemson Fan said:

Seriously, don't you think the first thing out of Winston's mouth over a month ago would've been, "Hey coach, I never signed those items." Winston should know as its HIS signature. Instead, Winston first said he didn't get paid to sign those items. Forgery turns out to be like the 5th or 6th excuse well over a month after the story broke. I'm surprised it took FSU's media department this long to get those forgery stories printed!

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so, a kid who signs thousands of autographs is going to know where each and every one of them ended up? or would he only know that hes never been paid to sign one?

you are just grabbing at straws here.

Clemson Fan said:

Here you go:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...-jameis-winston-items-due-legitimacy-concerns

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yes, thats the same article. would suggest actually reading it =)

Clemson Fan said:

It's not a criminal act, so no authority is ever going to investigate it.

So now you're comparing ESPN and the NYT to Joe's sports blog? Poor FSU, those completely unreliable and inflammatory Internet blogs of ESPN and the NYT are picking on them!

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id bet any amount of money you want that the NYT posts more "retractions" in a year than every "joes sports blog" in history...combined.

the job of the modern media now is to sell drama and headlines...not report the truth.

The main reason why the Oregon Ducks won't win a National Championship -- yeah, they've won in other sports, but not football -- is this: Their name, "Ducks." Delaware has a similar problem with its teams, the "Blue Hens." <just sayin'>
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TUGBrian said:

id bet any amount of money you want that the NYT posts more "retractions" in a year than every "joes sports blog" in history...combined.

the job of the modern media now is to sell drama and headlines...not report the truth.

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+1

Talent312 said:

The main reason why the Oregon Ducks won't win a National Championship -- yeah, they've won in other sports, but not football -- is this: Their name, "Ducks." Delaware has a similar problem with its teams, the "Blue Hens." <just sayin'>
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Well yea, there is THAT-- and a mascot named "Puddles"

It's getting more interesting for me now that Ohio State is #6.

Do they have a chance at beating any of the five teams ahead of them?

Of course they do.

Do the five teams below them have a chance at beating them?

Same answer.

The remaining games on everyone's schedule are going to mean a lot more to the committee than the first games of the season. How else could OSU be there after losing to Virginia Tech in game two if the later games didn't mean more?

When Braxton Miller went down pre-season I knew we'd have a capable player step in but this has been a pleasant surprise.