WinPointVIP lifetime membership

Braindead · Jul 26, 2016

CWA is a hundred times more likely to stick around in my opinion !

Braindead · Jul 26, 2016

If Wyndham stops giving VIP benefits to resale points Winpoint will be gone in my opinion ! I don't know the terms of the contract between owners & Winpoint . But if can simply stop access to their accounts Winpoint is done

gemini1977 · Jul 26, 2016

Braindead said:
I don't know how you would list WinpointVIP. What are you selling ?

You would be selling the WinPointVIP membership, its privelages are transferable. WinPointVIP has eluded to the likelihood that their prices could increase in the not too distant future. When this happens, it might increase the likelihood that those memberships might begin to appear on the resale market at a discount. There's not much of a reason to sell them now since you would likely have to sell it at a loss. And holding on to it indefinitely doesn't cost you anything extra since there are no MF fees or taxes.

raygo123 · Jul 26, 2016

Man what will you do with ALL that money?

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Braindead · Jul 26, 2016

gemini1977 said:
You would be selling the WinPointVIP membership, its privelages are transferable. WinPointVIP has eluded to the likelihood that their prices could increase in the not too distant future. When this happens, it might increase the likelihood that those memberships might begin to appear on the resale market at a discount. There's not much of a reason to sell them now since you would likely have to sell it at a loss. And holding on to it indefinitely doesn't cost you anything extra since there are no MF fees or taxes.

You may want to set the cup down & stop drinking the coolaid.

gemini1977 · Jul 26, 2016

Braindead said:
You may want to set the cup down & stop drinking the coolaid.

I'm merely describing the siituation as I see it. If you have any information/thoughts/analysis that provides addtional insight please feel free to provide it. I'm sure the community would appreciate something of substance.

Braindead · Jul 26, 2016

I'm not saying it's a bad product. But I don't think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread either. There is a risk with any investment but you almost sound like a giddy new owner with aWyndham direct purchase. I hope Winpoint works great for all their members just understand you could wake up tomorrow & it's gone!!

Braindead · Jul 26, 2016

Big brother (Wyndham) would like to get rid of little brother(Winpoint)

Braindead · Jul 26, 2016

If your an owner of a membership in WinpointVIP what is your recourse if you call in someday & are told there are no points available at this time ?

CO skier · Jul 27, 2016

Braindead said:
I still believe Wyndham likes mega renters. They are excellent owners . They pay their maintenance fees on time . Their contracts are paid for or little debt per point. Only one person to deal with all their reservations. A steady flow of potential clients. If I'm wrong why don't they simply update their software to stop VIP treatment of resale points.

You are apparently wrong about Wyndham's opinion of megarenters.

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1734698&postcount=48

Notice the use of the word "unfairly".

But you make a good point about why don't they back up that opinion with action regarding a flagrant loophole?

raygo123 · Jul 27, 2016

Maybe they can't at this point in time. Last February I was in St Thomas and I brought up winpoint.

Believe me, they did not have anything nice to say about him.
I think that at this point it is more an inability (ie computer system) to stop giving ANY VIP owners VIP benifits on resale, with the exception of ARP.

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Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

gemini1977 said:
You would be selling the WinPointVIP membership, its privelages are transferable. WinPointVIP has eluded to the likelihood that their prices could increase in the not too distant future. When this happens, it might increase the likelihood that those memberships might begin to appear on the resale market at a discount. There's not much of a reason to sell them now since you would likely have to sell it at a loss. And holding on to it indefinitely doesn't cost you anything extra since there are no MF fees or taxes.

The only privilege you have is access to someone else's account that could stop any day. You own nothing. I'm sure I don't have any ideas that Wyndham hasn't thought of but here are few more. Reduce the number of free guest reservations. Guest reservations don't qualify for free upgrades & point discounts. That would have a huge impact if Wyndham wants to protect the owners.

Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

Wouldn't be that hard to stop VIP treatment of guest reservations . Simply treat guest reservations like ARP & make you call in so reps don't give any upgrades or point discounts.

am1 · Jul 27, 2016

Braindead said:
Wouldn't be that hard to stop VIP treatment of guest reservations . Simply treat guest reservations like ARP & make you call in so reps don't give any upgrades or point discounts.

If the reservation is already booked and upgraded then the guest is added?

raygo123 · Jul 27, 2016

Does anyone know if under the discount window, resale points, or pooled points could be used to cancel and rebook?

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Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

am1 said:
If the reservation is already booked and upgraded then the guest is added?

If you have to call in to add the guest the rep could remove any discount & upgrade. If you don't have enough points available when adding the guest the reservation gets cancelled or remains in the owners name

Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

If no availability of origanal reservation a guest can't be added

Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

raygo123 said:
Does anyone know if under the discount window, resale points, or pooled points could be used to cancel and rebook?

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You can right now. If I understand other posts from renters they credit pool a large amount of their points.

Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

raygo123 said:
Does anyone know if under the discount window, resale points, or pooled points could be used to cancel and rebook?

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A while back Ron was giving away contracts with no available points for 2-3 years.

raygo123 · Jul 27, 2016

Braindead said:
If you have to call in to add the guest the rep could remove any discount & upgrade. If you don't have enough points available when adding the guest the reservation gets cancelled or remains in the owners name

That will not work. Go Green! If Wyndham could eliminate all calls to the center they would. It has to be by contract not account number. If done right only current year VIP contracts could cancel and rebook.

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Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

raygo123 said:
That will not work. Go Green! If Wyndham could eliminate all calls to the center they would. It has to be by contract not account number. If done right only current year VIP contracts could cancel and rebook.

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You nailed it couldn't agree more !!!!

am1 · Jul 27, 2016

Braindead said:
If you have to call in to add the guest the rep could remove any discount & upgrade. If you don't have enough points available when adding the guest the reservation gets cancelled or remains in the owners name

I doubt Wyndham could program that. Maybe some things could be done but this is just grasping at straws.

Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

I wouldn't think it would be that hard to not allow guest to be added to a reservation in the last 60 days

am1 · Jul 27, 2016

Braindead said:
I wouldn't think it would be that hard to not allow guest to be added to a reservation in the last 60 days

And if someone other then the owner is needs to check in before the owner? It is also an owners right to be able to add a guest name to a reservation. That has been and still is a selling point.

I could list a few dozen more reasons on why your thought would not work. Thankfully regardless of what one person wants it will not happen.

Braindead · Jul 27, 2016

am1 said:
And if someone other then the owner is needs to check in before the owner? It is also an owners right to be able to add a guest name to a reservation. That has been and still is a selling point.

I could list a few dozen more reasons on why your thought would not work. Thankfully regardless of what one person wants it will not happen.

Wyndham could take that right away at anytime but don't lose sleep over it. I don't think they will take it away either. The sales weasels would still use it as a sales pitch they just wouldn't tell you you can't do it in the last 60 days!!!