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I should preface this rather long post by saying that the Flamingo is my favorite HGVC location in Las Vegas. Always was, still is, and we will return, despite what you're about to read. That said, there are some serious management and maintenance problems that they need to address. I did my best to make that point clear while we were there.

2nd preamble -- we stayed there in early June, and despite the fact that we were contacted ahead of time and made our wishes known (main building, no feather bedding, no perfumed cleaners), when we arrived, we had problems with all the above. They had placed us in the North building; and when we switched rooms, it was on a low floor in a room with a terrible perfume smell from the cleaners they had used. Such perfumed products give my wife migraines, which can incapacitate her for days. When dealing with the manager, she indicated that there was no notation of any the above in our record. We asked why, then, do they bother to contact us. The manager had us give her our contact information and requirements, and assured us that all would be set up for our next trip in July.

You all see what's coming, right? Got there for our July 4-13 reservation, and there was no notation of our requirements. They placed us in the North tower again. I admit I raised a bit of a fuss, asking the same question -- why contact us, why promise to take care of it? I insisted there must be another room, but after 5 minutes, it was clear we weren't getting one. The night manager, Danny, who's a really nice guy (more on him later) promised to move us the next day.

We went to the room, didn't unpack, but I set up my laptop to check email. No internet. Went down to the lobby, and they connected me to tech support. After 30 minutes of no success, they declared that I needed level 2 support (I've never had problems before with this laptop). Since it was almost 11pm by now, I told them to call me back in the morning.

So the morning arrives, and after our showers etc, and breakfast, we're waiting for a call for either (a) the room change, or (b) from tech support. The phone rings and.... you guessed it. It was about an owner update. We were told that our limo was waiting. Only one problem -- we never agreed to an owner update! Later we found out that we were coming up on their schedule for July 5, 2011! Somebody, please buy these folks a calendar, would you? Oh yeah, isn't there a calendar function on those iPads that they bought everyone? :mad:

So I go away to my poker tournament, and DW stuck around. When I came back, they were moving us to a high floor in the main tower. And we had a nice gift from Danny -- a bottle of champagne and two champagne flutes. Nice.

After a while we notice the shower dripping. No, not dripping. Streaming. We call maintenance, who come promptly. Did they replace the gasket? No, they replaced the shower head, which as you can guess, did nothing. We found that if we tightened the shower handle as tight as I could possibly make it (which was difficult because the handle was loose), we could slow it to a fast drip. Oh, and the toilet paper holder was always falling off.

Put up with the drip, drip, drip that night. Had to close the door to the bathroom so it wouldn't keep us awake. Called maintenance again. They came out again. Didn't fix it (or the toilet paper) again. :mad:

After the 3rd maintenance call a couple of nights later, they said that it couldn't be fixed. Danny, who's (a) a super nice guy and (b) afraid of me by this time, explained that somehow the plumbing is worn out and the drip can't be fixed. He informs my DW (rather deal with her) that there's another Flamingo refurb coming up, and they're going to redo the showers at that point in time. Because not only do they drip, but the gasket around the door is ill-designed, and leaves puddles on the floor. Did I say puddles? We had a small pond each morning. So Danny takes the time to explain it all to my wife, and send up another gift basket, this time with a nice red wine and candy. And a ton of fresh towels and floor mats.

Danny also gave us his business card, and told us to contact him personally before our next visit (we don't have one scheduled, and the rest of our year is booked). He really was a nice guy. But there are some major disconnects in management; and he's the face of management to the public (he's night manager). Also, their maintenance team seems to be totally incompetent.

Still we got some nice parting gifts. And as I said, we'll be back. I don't know when this next refurb will take place -- he seemed to imply in the next year or two, and said that refurbs tend to occur every 5 years or so. When was the last one, about 3 years ago? Anyway, my DW pointed out to him that while reupholstered sofas and granite counters are nice, this building is getting very old, and they need to pay attention to basic infrastructure, like plumbing. I hope they listen.

-Bob
 

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We were there for two nights at the end of February. The smell of the cleaner at the side door, closest to the casino entrance was gagging for the whole time we were there. You had to hold your breath even in the elevator on the way up or down. It seemed to be covering other less enticing smells. When we checked out at 4:00AM to get to the airport, there was no one at the front desk at all. The security guard eventually came around and called the person who was supposed to be there and was apparently doing "rounds". (I thought that was what the security guy should be doing) He finally showed up, tying his tie, printed our bill and we left. We asked about the smell and he said he wasn't aware of it. I doubt we were the only ones who noticed it.
Although I liked the location, I doubt we will be back there.
 

Sandy VDH

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I grabbed an Elara unit via RCI for my next stay next year, for this very reason. We stay there in Dec last year, and while nice they have to keep things going.
 

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I really like Flamingo, but the shower door thing is spot on. Not sure who designed it, but it is not very good at keeping water in the shower base.

Ken
 

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Please email all complaints to input@HGVC.com.

A HGVC resort manager told me that owner complaints via input@HGVC.com get more attention/reaction from the corporate office than their feedback.
 

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Hello Blues
That is an unbelievable experience!
I admire your patience!

We stayed at the Flamingo on June 23 & 24. The rooms were nice, we came not even rear your problems!
My only disappointment: just as our Marbrisa visit the prior 4 days, we booked a 2 bd room and received two 1bd rooms. Joined via a door.

My biggest mistake: I choose this location for the nice pool they show on the pictures. Well, my research was flawed and apparently insufficient since I did not discover that this nice, waterfall studded, large pool is for ADULTS ONLY!
The kids pool was, whew, nice as well (has a nice slide), so my daughter was enjoying it.
The adjacent parking garage always provided a parking space in the HGVC designated spaces. Nice! But that structure could use a makeover! The dynamite makeover...

One very positive thing to note: our rooms were remarkably quiet! Unlike our experience a few years back at the HGVC at the strip, we never heard anybody at 3am'ish. Perfectly quiet!

And you can beat the very central location to the Strip!

Cheers
 

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Leaking Showers and The Planned Rehab

I should preface this rather long post by saying that the Flamingo is my favorite HGVC location in Las Vegas. Always was, still is, and we will return, despite what you're about to read. That said, there are some serious management and maintenance problems that they need to address. I did my best to make that point clear while we were there.

2nd preamble -- we stayed there in early June, and despite the fact that we were contacted ahead of time and made our wishes known (main building, no feather bedding, no perfumed cleaners), when we arrived, we had problems with all the above. They had placed us in the North building; and when we switched rooms, it was on a low floor in a room with a terrible perfume smell from the cleaners they had used. Such perfumed products give my wife migraines, which can incapacitate her for days. When dealing with the manager, she indicated that there was no notation of any the above in our record. We asked why, then, do they bother to contact us. The manager had us give her our contact information and requirements, and assured us that all would be set up for our next trip in July.

You all see what's coming, right? Got there for our July 4-13 reservation, and there was no notation of our requirements. They placed us in the North tower again. I admit I raised a bit of a fuss, asking the same question -- why contact us, why promise to take care of it? I insisted there must be another room, but after 5 minutes, it was clear we weren't getting one. The night manager, Danny, who's a really nice guy (more on him later) promised to move us the next day.

We went to the room, didn't unpack, but I set up my laptop to check email. No internet. Went down to the lobby, and they connected me to tech support. After 30 minutes of no success, they declared that I needed level 2 support (I've never had problems before with this laptop). Since it was almost 11pm by now, I told them to call me back in the morning.

So the morning arrives, and after our showers etc, and breakfast, we're waiting for a call for either (a) the room change, or (b) from tech support. The phone rings and.... you guessed it. It was about an owner update. We were told that our limo was waiting. Only one problem -- we never agreed to an owner update! Later we found out that we were coming up on their schedule for July 5, 2011! Somebody, please buy these folks a calendar, would you? Oh yeah, isn't there a calendar function on those iPads that they bought everyone? :mad:

So I go away to my poker tournament, and DW stuck around. When I came back, they were moving us to a high floor in the main tower. And we had a nice gift from Danny -- a bottle of champagne and two champagne flutes. Nice.

After a while we notice the shower dripping. No, not dripping. Streaming. We call maintenance, who come promptly. Did they replace the gasket? No, they replaced the shower head, which as you can guess, did nothing. We found that if we tightened the shower handle as tight as I could possibly make it (which was difficult because the handle was loose), we could slow it to a fast drip. Oh, and the toilet paper holder was always falling off.

Put up with the drip, drip, drip that night. Had to close the door to the bathroom so it wouldn't keep us awake. Called maintenance again. They came out again. Didn't fix it (or the toilet paper) again. :mad:

After the 3rd maintenance call a couple of nights later, they said that it couldn't be fixed. Danny, who's (a) a super nice guy and (b) afraid of me by this time, explained that somehow the plumbing is worn out and the drip can't be fixed. He informs my DW (rather deal with her) that there's another Flamingo refurb coming up, and they're going to redo the showers at that point in time. Because not only do they drip, but the gasket around the door is ill-designed, and leaves puddles on the floor. Did I say puddles? We had a small pond each morning. So Danny takes the time to explain it all to my wife, and send up another gift basket, this time with a nice red wine and candy. And a ton of fresh towels and floor mats.

Danny also gave us his business card, and told us to contact him personally before our next visit (we don't have one scheduled, and the rest of our year is booked). He really was a nice guy. But there are some major disconnects in management; and he's the face of management to the public (he's night manager). Also, their maintenance team seems to be totally incompetent.

Still we got some nice parting gifts. And as I said, we'll be back. I don't know when this next refurb will take place -- he seemed to imply in the next year or two, and said that refurbs tend to occur every 5 years or so. When was the last one, about 3 years ago? Anyway, my DW pointed out to him that while reupholstered sofas and granite counters are nice, this building is getting very old, and they need to pay attention to basic infrastructure, like plumbing. I hope they listen.

My husband is a retired Operations Director at a major university. When he first took the position one of the biggest challenges was the leaking showers in the residence halls that would make the ceiling in the bathrooms in the floors below crumble and stain badly. He read through the file on previous rehabs. In the notes of the previous Operations Director there were comments stating that addressing the leaking showers could not be made part of the rehab since they were too expensive and beyond what was budgeted for the rehab. Painting, new carpet, new furniture was budgeted for, but the repair of the leaking showers was not. These leaking showers may not be taken care of in the next rehab.
 

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This must be a really common problem now in most of the 1-br units...I had the same problem in April in my unit...best you could do was to get the shower down to a drip...if not, it was a constant dripping flow out of the showerhead when you tried to shut it off. And I left a towel on the floor next to the shower because it was always wet on the floor.

They certainly did a crappy job on the showers on the last refurb! It wasn't that long ago it was done!
 
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