Gold/Platinum Overlap?

GregT · Sep 26, 2010

All,

Thanks for replies to other questions (and AlwaysonVac, I appreciate your response in the other thread on Octoer HHV -- very helpful).

Has anyone encountered a situation where the weeks and seasons overlap? And how points discrepancies are considered?

As an example, I cite 2012 at HHV, in October.

Week 41 (Gold)

Friday check-in: October 14-21
Saturday check-in: October 8-15
Sunday check-in: October 9-16

Week 42 (Platinum):

Friday check-in: October 21-28
Saturday check-in: October 15-22
Sunday check-in: October 16-23

So.....if I start a reservation on Friday, October 14th, and continue it out for 6-7 days, I can see where those dates are considered Gold in certain situations, and Platinum in others. Would this reservation get charged at Gold points requirements (Week 41) or Platinum points (Week 42)?

Interesting situation -- I'm sure others have seen and considered if there is an inefficiency at the seasons overlap, but I'm just curious.

Any thoughts or perspective would be appreciated.

Thanks again!

Greg

alwysonvac · Sep 26, 2010

GregT said:
All,

Thanks for replies to other questions (and AlwaysonVac, I appreciate your response in the other thread on Octoer HHV -- very helpful).

Has anyone encountered a situation where the weeks and seasons overlap? And how points discrepancies are considered?

As an example, I cite 2012 at HHV, in October.

Week 41 (Gold)

Friday check-in: October 14-21
Saturday check-in: October 8-15
Sunday check-in: October 9-16

Week 42 (Platinum):

Friday check-in: October 21-28
Saturday check-in: October 15-22
Sunday check-in: October 16-23

So.....if I start a reservation on Friday, October 14th, and continue it out for 6-7 days, I can see where those dates are considered Gold in certain situations, and Platinum in others. Would this reservation get charged at Gold points requirements (Week 41) or Platinum points (Week 42)?

Interesting situation -- I'm sure others have seen and considered if there is an inefficiency at the seasons overlap, but I'm just curious.

Any thoughts or perspective would be appreciated.

Thanks again!

Greg

I've run into this situation but I don't recall how it did the calculation.

Perhaps try playing around in the reservation system with overlapping seasons in Orlando or Vegas and see how the system calculates the number of points required in each scenario.

GregT · Sep 26, 2010

alwysonvac said:
I've run into this situation but I don't recall how it did the calculation.

Perhaps try playing around in the reservation system with overlapping seasons in Orlando or Vegas and see how the system calculates the number of points required in each scenario.

I did play with Bay Club since it allows Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday check-in, and the same gold/platinum overlap exists in June 2011.

Interestingly, it appears to honor the Gold points value for 7 day reservations beginning on Saturday June 4, 2011 (which is Platinum season), because Friday June 3, 2011 thru Friday June 10, 2011 is still Gold (but June 4, 2011 - June 11, 2011 is Platinum).

However, Kohala Suites prices at the full 7,000 points, which is correct for Platinum season (but this could be because it is only Saturday check-ins).

Interesting stuff -- I'll keep tracking this since it intrigues me, and will post if I can learn something useful.

Best to all,

Greg

alwysonvac · Sep 27, 2010

GregT said:
I did play with Bay Club since it allows Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday check-in, and the same gold/platinum overlap exists in June 2011.

Interestingly, it appears to honor the Gold points value for 7 day reservations beginning on Saturday June 4, 2011 (which is Platinum season), because Friday June 3, 2011 thru Friday June 10, 2011 is still Gold (but June 4, 2011 - June 11, 2011 is Platinum).

However, Kohala Suites prices at the full 7,000 points, which is correct for Platinum season (but this could be because it is only Saturday check-ins).

Interesting stuff -- I'll keep tracking this since it intrigues me, and will post if I can learn something useful.

Best to all,

Greg

I never realized that the Bay Club has several Check-in / Check-out dates for owners.

All of the HGVC developed resorts have a single check-in date for owners during their home week - Saturday for Hawaii, Saturday for Orlando, Friday Las Vegas and Friday for South Beach.

Since HHV's single check-in date for owners is Saturday during the Home Week Reservation Window, I would assume during the Club Reservation Window that the season begins Saturday night.

In your example above, week #42 begins Sat Oct 15 therefore I would assume the days that include the night of Sat Oct 15 or later would be booked at a Platinum Season rate and the days before Sat Oct 15 would be booked at the Gold Season rate. Again this is my assumption on how it should work for reservations that overlap seasons.

Looking at the HGVC developed resorts with single check-in/check-out days during overlapping seasons may confirm your answer for HHV.

UWSurfer · Sep 27, 2010

GregT said:
All,

As an example, I cite 2012 at HHV, in October.

Week 41 (Gold)

Friday check-in: October 14-21
Saturday check-in: October 8-15
Sunday check-in: October 9-16

Week 42 (Platinum):

Friday check-in: October 21-28
Saturday check-in: October 15-22
Sunday check-in: October 16-23

So.....if I start a reservation on Friday, October 14th, and continue it out for 6-7 days, I can see where those dates are considered Gold in certain situations, and Platinum in others. Would this reservation get charged at Gold points requirements (Week 41) or Platinum points (Week 42)?

Greg

Essentially you're charged by the point value of the stay per night, thus the example date you cite (Oct 14) would be gold value points straight on.

Remember the last night in your date ranges (above) are check out and don't count as the 21st would be your eighth day, a platinum night. To take this out a bit further say you checked in Wed Oct 19 and checked out Monday Oct 24, the first two nights would be charged against gold points value for lower demand nights and the remaining three nights would be booked as platinum value points, with the Fri/Sat being charged higher demand weekend values within the Platinum points valuation.

Friday and Saturday night stays typically cost more points than Sunday - Thursday nights.

GregT · Sep 27, 2010

UWSurfer said:
Essentially you're charged by the point value of the stay per night, thus the example date you cite (Oct 14) would be gold value points straight on.

Remember the last night in your date ranges (above) are check out and don't count as the 21st would be your eighth day, a platinum night. To take this out a bit further say you checked in Wed Oct 19 and checked out Monday Oct 24, the first two nights would be charged against gold points value for lower demand nights and the remaining three nights would be booked as platinum value points, with the Fri/Sat being charged higher demand weekend values within the Platinum points valuation.

Friday and Saturday night stays typically cost more points than Sunday - Thursday nights.

UWSurfer,

Thank you -- this is indeed very puzzling to me.

I agree completely with you about Friday, October 14th in my example.

The mystery (to me at least) is how to treat Saturday October 15th thru Friday, October 21st.

In one situation (Friday check-in) those days are Gold as they are the last six nights of Week 41 (Gold).

In another situation (Saturday check-in) those days are Platinum as they are the first six nights of Week 42 (Platinum).

Very odd. I found a single example with Bay Club where even a Saturday check-in in what should have started as Platinum week 23 at Bay Club as charged with Gold Week 22 points requirements.

I don't think it matters with Bay Club because availability in Gold appear appears to be very strong, but I'm curious if possible points discrepancies could also appear in a very high demand property like HHV. But because it's full up on those period where the seasons overlap, I can't see if the same potential discrepancy exists.

Interesting stuff...I'll keep tracking....thanks to all!!

Greg

Sandy VDH · Sep 27, 2010

It all depends on the checkin date of the underlying week. That is what is used to determine the point value.

So if you stay 5 nights on Sun to Fri on a week that has a Fri checkin and that Fri was Gold season you will be charged Gold for the 5 days.

It all goes back to the the underlying week. If you book 7 days this is pretty straight forward, if you book a checkin date that is gold than you will be charged gold the entire stay.

If you have a checkin day that includes partial days in gold and partial days in Platinum, likely you booked a Tuesday to Tuesday the first few days are gold, but eventually the remainin days will spill over to Platinum.

It is hard to exactly tell what you will get charged in points because it depends on which week you take inventory from and number of days in your stay. It is often that, especially for stays for less than 7 days, you might have different point calculations. Some may be less because more days are in gold then platinum.

Just look at all of the various options available to you.

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