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Quilter · November 16, 2005, 11:25 PM

I booked flights with AA for our trip to Ireland/Scotland next year using miles. Into Dublin, home from Edinburgh. 5 airports each way.

At least we have seats and a confirmation no.

Do you think if I keep calling this could get better? My husband is AA Gold. Any tips on getting a better itinerary?

Thank you,
Suzzanne

aleksir · November 17, 2005, 12:36 AM

Quilter,

it doesn't hurt to keep looking for a better itinerary. AA will charge $100/ticket to cancel your current ticket and return the miles to your account. You'll need to find the new itinerary, put it on hold, and then try to cancel/re-issue your tickets. If you find a nice CSA they may be able to do all of that at the same time.

Good luck. Your trip sounds like a great one!

DeniseM · November 17, 2005, 12:36 AM

If your flights are already booked, won't you have to pay a fee to change them?

Quilter · November 17, 2005, 11:49 AM

The hold will last until 11/29. No penalty for changes during this time. I'll keep calling for less airports.

The flight over is on Swiss Air. The flight back is BA. We've never flown either. Also, the BA flight is on a 747. I've never been on one.

Today when I called the only difference was to switch to Iberian Airlines and fly into Iberia and Madrid instead of CHI/BOS/DUB. I didn't bother to change because I don't know which would have been better. Any suggestions?

camachinist · November 17, 2005, 12:45 PM

What are your preferred departure airports and what class of service are you attempting to secure on AA/1W?

Pat

Quilter · November 17, 2005, 01:14 PM

We live 25 mins. from DTW but have a condo in Chicago. So, we could leave from DTW, FNT, TOL or ORD.

Our last night in Scotland is at Ediburgh Marriott but that could be switched to Glasgow.

Business Class

camachinist · November 17, 2005, 03:09 PM

I'm currently seeing a variety of dates with business class availability ORD-DUB non-stop for next year.

What are your prospective dates and how flexible are you? Have you considered a short revenue hop in Y on EI or equivilent to secure a round trip out of DUB? I'm currently seeing hops in the 70-80.00 range p/p o/w.

Do you prefer to fly BA or LX rather than AA? Or, is row 15 upstairs on a 744 really the draw?

Pat

Quilter · November 17, 2005, 03:41 PM

Pat, my dates have been determined by other factors, the possible blooming time of the Rhododendrons as one of them

I've made trade requests with II and backup hotel reservations. The guests going with us aren't as flexible. One has already put in for the time off work.

Dates: Leave DTW on 6/10, Return from EDI 6/24. I looked for Aer Lingus flights from EDI to DUB on 6/24 but didn't think to look at another airline. duh!!!! What is EI?

What is LX?

We've flown business class on a 777. Okay. Aer Lingus was better. The 747 isn't necessary. Less airports would be better. Business class preferred.

Thanks for looking. That is very nice of you.
Suzzanne

camachinist · November 17, 2005, 03:56 PM

EI= Aer Lingus
LX= Swiss

I was looking too far out...will adjust..

Will look further this evening. My GDS access does list award buckets for some airlines, including AA.

Pat

Quilter · November 17, 2005, 05:05 PM

You gave me some ideas concerning the dates. I called AA just to see if I was flexible what the outcome would be. I changed weeks, switched for Scotland first, then Ireland, tried different airports. Nothing better.

Icarus · November 18, 2005, 06:55 AM

What class are the tickets? (coach, biz or first?)

I'm surprised you can't find something better out of ORD.

-David

Quilter · November 18, 2005, 08:01 AM

We dawdled too long

The AA reservationists keep telling me "we've been selling these seats since July".

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.

Pat H · November 18, 2005, 09:18 PM

We flew coach on Iberia last year to Madrid. Never, ever again! It was the most uncomfortable flight I have ever been on. I have never been so squished in a seat with almost no leg room. The FA's were practically non-existent except when they served meals. I assume business would be better but I will never fly Iberia again.

Quilter · November 18, 2005, 10:25 PM

I'll keep that in mind if a convenient Iberia flight shows up I'll let it pass.

Any knowledge on Swiss Air?

Quilter · December 11, 2005, 09:49 PM

I made the mistake of not booking my last hold with AA and had to start over. Not only was it another rough itinerary with many airports but we were overnighting in Boston on the way home. I was glad to just have seats but wasn't looking forward to the many stops.

This week I called and the agent found us seats on a direct flight from ORD to DUB! Tonight I called again and got direct from DUB to ORD! No more hold--I booked it!

Now I'm really getting excited about the trip!

krisj · December 11, 2005, 10:20 PM

Great news! I hope you were able to get seats for everyone in your party... or are you travelling seperately? In any case, it sure is nice to have more direct flights. Congratulations!

Kris

p.s. We're similarly excited, because this week we get to fly direct from Seattle to Orlando... an option that's only recently become available and which will shorten our travel time by over 4 hours :-)

Quilter · December 12, 2005, 10:02 AM

Thanks for reminding me about the seats Kris. Yes, I got seats for DH and me (our friends are on other flights because they paid) but I need help. We're in business class and I've read on flyertalk about how the food service works but have forgotten. How does the even/odd flight number thing work with meal requests?

Seattle to Orlando is good to know. What airline?

krisj · December 13, 2005, 12:11 AM

Sorry I don't know the answer to your food service question, but I'll bet someone else here does. I'm already envious of your future trip to Ireland and Scotland!

Seattle to Orlando direct is on Alaska, but I'm guessing that's of no use to you where you are... unless you want to come visit us sometime and then hop down to see Mickey

Kris

Quilter · December 13, 2005, 08:31 AM

Actually I was thinking of my Montana friends. We've talked about them getting to Orlando but it seems Disneyland is an easier trip.

krisj · December 13, 2005, 11:27 AM

My brother and his family live in Missoula. I think for them it may still be quicker to head straight toward Orlando, since they otherwise have to fly to Seattle and have a layover there. So far it seems like the direct Alaska flight tends to be about $200 more than a flight with layovers, so it might be worth checking on but may not make sense from Montana.

Kris

Dave M · December 13, 2005, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quilter

We're in business class and I've read on flyertalk about how the food service works but have forgotten. How does the even/odd flight number thing work with meal requests?

"EFOB"

Meal choices are taken:

On Even-numbered flights, starting in the Front of the cabin
On Odd-numbered flights, starting in the Back of the cabin

Elli · December 13, 2005, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave M

"EFOB"

Meal choices are taken:

On Even-numbered flights, starting in the Front of the cabin
On Odd-numbered flights, starting in the Back of the cabin

Dave, is this only for first class? Thanks.

Dave M · December 13, 2005, 02:52 PM

F on domestic flights; F and C (Business) on international flights.

camachinist · December 13, 2005, 03:11 PM

BTW, the meal order is sometimes also known as "FEBO", with the same connotation. Depends on the airline.....

Also, on UA , meal orders are sometimes taken by status, though I don't believe it's SOP anymore to do so. Not sure about AA.

Pat

Dave M · December 13, 2005, 03:15 PM

My response was for AA, which is the airline Quilter asked about.

I agree with your comment about UA. Although no longer SOP, many flight attendants still do it that way, especially on international flights.

November 16, 2005, 11:25 PM	#1
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	too many airport stops I booked flights with AA for our trip to Ireland/Scotland next year using miles. Into Dublin, home from Edinburgh. 5 airports each way. At least we have seats and a confirmation no. Do you think if I keep calling this could get better? My husband is AA Gold. Any tips on getting a better itinerary? Thank you, Suzzanne

November 17, 2005, 12:36 AM	#2
aleksir TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Nov 11, 05 Location: greenville texas Posts: 58 Resorts: Club Regina PVR	Quilter, it doesn't hurt to keep looking for a better itinerary. AA will charge $100/ticket to cancel your current ticket and return the miles to your account. You'll need to find the new itinerary, put it on hold, and then try to cancel/re-issue your tickets. If you find a nice CSA they may be able to do all of that at the same time. Good luck. Your trip sounds like a great one! __________________ in an insane society the sane man must appear insane

November 17, 2005, 12:36 AM	#3
DeniseM Moderator TUG Lifetime Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Northern, CA Posts: 14,068 Resorts: Starwood-WKORV, SDO, & SVR, Branson-Roark Vacation Club, Tahoe-Kingsbury Crossing, Kauai Beach Villas - 2 weeks	If your flights are already booked, won't you have to pay a fee to change them? __________________ DeniseM "Starwood is hired to administer reservations, clean the toilets, and take out the trash. They are not paid to interfere with owners' usage. They're acting as if they own the place." - Pit

November 17, 2005, 11:49 AM	#4
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	currently, just on hold The hold will last until 11/29. No penalty for changes during this time. I'll keep calling for less airports. The flight over is on Swiss Air. The flight back is BA. We've never flown either. Also, the BA flight is on a 747. I've never been on one. Today when I called the only difference was to switch to Iberian Airlines and fly into Iberia and Madrid instead of CHI/BOS/DUB. I didn't bother to change because I don't know which would have been better. Any suggestions?

November 17, 2005, 03:41 PM	#8
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	I've already booked rooms Pat, my dates have been determined by other factors, the possible blooming time of the Rhododendrons as one of them I've made trade requests with II and backup hotel reservations. The guests going with us aren't as flexible. One has already put in for the time off work. Dates: Leave DTW on 6/10, Return from EDI 6/24. I looked for Aer Lingus flights from EDI to DUB on 6/24 but didn't think to look at another airline. duh!!!! What is EI? What is LX? We've flown business class on a 777. Okay. Aer Lingus was better. The 747 isn't necessary. Less airports would be better. Business class preferred. Thanks for looking. That is very nice of you. Suzzanne

November 17, 2005, 12:45 PM	#5
camachinist TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Central California Posts: 2,305	What are your preferred departure airports and what class of service are you attempting to secure on AA/1W? Pat

November 17, 2005, 01:14 PM	#6
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	We live 25 mins. from DTW but have a condo in Chicago. So, we could leave from DTW, FNT, TOL or ORD. Our last night in Scotland is at Ediburgh Marriott but that could be switched to Glasgow. Business Class

November 17, 2005, 03:09 PM	#7
camachinist TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Central California Posts: 2,305	I'm currently seeing a variety of dates with business class availability ORD-DUB non-stop for next year. What are your prospective dates and how flexible are you? Have you considered a short revenue hop in Y on EI or equivilent to secure a round trip out of DUB? I'm currently seeing hops in the 70-80.00 range p/p o/w. Do you prefer to fly BA or LX rather than AA? Or, is row 15 upstairs on a 744 really the draw? Pat

November 17, 2005, 03:56 PM	#9
camachinist TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Central California Posts: 2,305	EI= Aer Lingus LX= Swiss I was looking too far out...will adjust.. Will look further this evening. My GDS access does list award buckets for some airlines, including AA. Pat

November 17, 2005, 05:05 PM	#10
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	Thank you again Pat You gave me some ideas concerning the dates. I called AA just to see if I was flexible what the outcome would be. I changed weeks, switched for Scotland first, then Ireland, tried different airports. Nothing better.

November 18, 2005, 06:55 AM	#11
Icarus TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Posts: 4,094	What class are the tickets? (coach, biz or first?) I'm surprised you can't find something better out of ORD. -David

November 18, 2005, 08:01 AM	#12
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	Didn't make the reservations early enough We dawdled too long The AA reservationists keep telling me "we've been selling these seats since July". Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.

November 18, 2005, 09:18 PM	#13
Pat H TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Northeast PA Posts: 1,891 Resorts: Sandcastle-Cape Cod, Fairfield Patriot's Place, Mayan Palace, Dikhololo	We flew coach on Iberia last year to Madrid. Never, ever again! It was the most uncomfortable flight I have ever been on. I have never been so squished in a seat with almost no leg room. The FA's were practically non-existent except when they served meals. I assume business would be better but I will never fly Iberia again. __________________ *Pat H*

November 18, 2005, 10:25 PM	#14
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	Thanks Pat I'll keep that in mind if a convenient Iberia flight shows up I'll let it pass. Any knowledge on Swiss Air?

December 11, 2005, 09:49 PM	#15
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	We got good flights! I made the mistake of not booking my last hold with AA and had to start over. Not only was it another rough itinerary with many airports but we were overnighting in Boston on the way home. I was glad to just have seats but wasn't looking forward to the many stops. This week I called and the agent found us seats on a direct flight from ORD to DUB! Tonight I called again and got direct from DUB to ORD! No more hold--I booked it! Now I'm really getting excited about the trip!

December 11, 2005, 10:20 PM	#16
krisj Guest BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Seattle Posts: 379 Resorts: 6 weeks in Whistler	Great news! I hope you were able to get seats for everyone in your party... or are you travelling seperately? In any case, it sure is nice to have more direct flights. Congratulations! Kris p.s. We're similarly excited, because this week we get to fly direct from Seattle to Orlando... an option that's only recently become available and which will shorten our travel time by over 4 hours :-)

December 12, 2005, 10:02 AM	#17
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	Need seat help Thanks for reminding me about the seats Kris. Yes, I got seats for DH and me (our friends are on other flights because they paid) but I need help. We're in business class and I've read on flyertalk about how the food service works but have forgotten. How does the even/odd flight number thing work with meal requests? Seattle to Orlando is good to know. What airline?

December 13, 2005, 12:11 AM	#18
krisj Guest BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Seattle Posts: 379 Resorts: 6 weeks in Whistler	Sorry I don't know the answer to your food service question, but I'll bet someone else here does. I'm already envious of your future trip to Ireland and Scotland! Seattle to Orlando direct is on Alaska, but I'm guessing that's of no use to you where you are... unless you want to come visit us sometime and then hop down to see Mickey Kris

December 13, 2005, 08:31 AM	#19
Quilter TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 9, 05 Location: Plymouth, MI; Chicago Posts: 584	Actually I was thinking of my Montana friends. We've talked about them getting to Orlando but it seems Disneyland is an easier trip.

December 13, 2005, 11:27 AM	#20
krisj Guest BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Seattle Posts: 379 Resorts: 6 weeks in Whistler	My brother and his family live in Missoula. I think for them it may still be quicker to head straight toward Orlando, since they otherwise have to fly to Seattle and have a layover there. So far it seems like the direct Alaska flight tends to be about $200 more than a flight with layovers, so it might be worth checking on but may not make sense from Montana. Kris

December 13, 2005, 02:52 PM	#23
Dave M Moderator TUG Lifetime Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 16, 04 Location: Sun City Hilton Head, SC Posts: 11,351	F on domestic flights; F and C (Business) on international flights.

December 13, 2005, 03:11 PM	#24
camachinist TUG Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05 Location: Central California Posts: 2,305	BTW, the meal order is sometimes also known as "FEBO", with the same connotation. Depends on the airline..... Also, on UA , meal orders are sometimes taken by status, though I don't believe it's SOP anymore to do so. Not sure about AA. Pat

December 13, 2005, 03:15 PM	#25
Dave M Moderator TUG Lifetime Member BBS Reg. Date: Jun 16, 04 Location: Sun City Hilton Head, SC Posts: 11,351	My response was for AA, which is the airline Quilter asked about. I agree with your comment about UA. Although no longer SOP, many flight attendants still do it that way, especially on international flights.

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