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NEW HGVC coming to Hilton Head, SC!

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All,

I'm not familiar with the location but this seems like another win for HGVC members. HGVC just purchased a 7acre site in Hilton Head, SC. Looks like pre-development sales begin April 2015 with a scheduled grand opening to be summer 2016.

Since Marriott has so many TS in Hilton Head, I'm thinking this might be a really good vacation spot.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ns-Strand-Capital-Group-Announce#.VLUodNLF8mk
 
I wonder which parcel it is. Marriott Grande Ocean is in South Forest Beach. It's not a large area and there is no empty beach front so I'm curious on the parcel. It might be right next to Grande Ocean.
 
I am happy the HGVC appears to be willing to expand in some new locations from them. Nice departure from Hawaii, Vegas and Orlando.

I sent my nephew to Anderson Club last year. It will be nice to have another option in the east.
 
Saintsfanfl said:
I wonder which parcel it is. Marriott Grande Ocean is in South Forest Beach. It's not a large area and there is no empty beach front so I'm curious on the parcel. It might be right next to Grande Ocean.
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Good news for us HHI lovers! :D:D:D
I think you are correct about that parcel just to the north of Grande Ocean. I can't think of any otheravailable parcels in that area.
 
jont said:
Good news for us HHI lovers! :D:D:D
I think you are correct about that parcel just to the north of Grande Ocean. I can't think of any otheravailable parcels in that area.
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I think that's the site, too. You can search "Adventure Inn" at the Island Packet website for a related 12/9/14 article, and use the same "Adventure Inn" search term at the SC Registry of Deeds to see the related 12/18/14 filing.
 
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All 2-bedroom units, which I never need.
 
linsj said:
All 2-bedroom units, which I never need.
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I hear you, but at the same time, this is a great thing.

This is the 2nd new development expansion announced in the last 2 months or so.

That is amazing and makes those HGVC points even more valuable to me.
 
This is quite exciting for us who live on the East Coast. I've always envied the resort choices Marriott owners have. Now how about those Caribbean islands, HGVC?:cheer:
 
Is it an HHI requirement to build 2BR or larger units? I know there are smaller units on the island like Blue Water on the intercoastal has 1, 2, and 3BR units but Marriott has so many properties and they are all 2BR+ units with no lock-offs. It just hit me that HHI might be dictating to some degree. Or maybe it's just more popular with families so smaller units are not cost effective. Does anyone know for sure?
 
Saintsfanfl said:
Is it an HHI requirement to build 2BR or larger units? I know there are smaller units on the island like Blue Water on the intercoastal has 1, 2, and 3BR units but Marriott has so many properties and they are all 2BR+ units with no lock-offs. It just hit me that HHI might be dictating to some degree. Or maybe it's just more popular with families so smaller units are not cost effective. Does anyone know for sure?
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It might be tied to a zoning regulation dictating the number of parking spaces required. A two bedroom unit might require 1.5 spaces per unit. A smaller 1 bedroom or studio might require 1 to 1.25 spaces per unit. Therefore , the more units, 1 br or studios, the more parking that is required. And the more parking required, the more land that is required which equals greater cost. In addition, parking structures might be prohibited on HHI. I dont remember ever seeing one. Of course, my numbers are just guesses, The actual zoning requirements may be different.
 
jont said:
It might be tied to a zoning regulation dictating the number of parking spaces required. A two bedroom unit might require 1.5 spaces per unit. A smaller 1 bedroom or studio might require 1 to 1.25 spaces per unit. Therefore , the more units, 1 br or studios, the more parking that is required. And the more parking required, the more land that is required which equals greater cost. In addition, parking structures might be prohibited on HHI. I dont remember ever seeing one. Of course, my numbers are just guesses, The actual zoning requirements may be different.
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That is a very good point. The press release mentions under unit parking, so it could easily be a space issue.
 
Hilton Head Island has some of the most restrictive zoning regs in the country, most of them related to environmental concerns. When purchasing from Marriott years ago we were told that lock-off units aren't allowed (anymore, if they ever were) but I don't remember hearing that all units in new developments must be at least 2BR. I'd guess that in addition to any parking/keyed entries limits, there may be limits on how many individual units are allowed per square foot.

I'm excited for you HGVC owners! :)
 
Nice to know that they're still into TS-building, as well as buying.
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definitely going to be using most of my points here. living in va only drivable option is Anderson.
 
There are development covenants as well as zoning issues tied to almost all the land on HHI, dating back to the original development of Sea Pines (including land not part of today's Sea Pines Plantation. A great history of the development of HHI is "Profits and Politics in Paradise," and, while written by an academic, is a good and fascinating read. This definitely makes HGVC more attractive to me. *will wait patiently for it to hit the resale market*


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HGVC continues to impress me -- I like the continued expansion into very desirable vacation spots, and the use of their partner who takes the development risk (which is modestly mitigated by having a captive sales partner -- HGVC). We all agree timeshare sales are a risky business, but these two have clearly have a way to leverage each others strengths.

I applaud HGVC for their vision and creativity. I very recently criticized Marriott for sitting on their hands while the true industry leadership is shown by Wyndham and HGVC. This is another example of HGVC doing something creative that is very value added for us, the HGVC ownership.

Undoubtedly, this will have a high points chart -- but like Park City, hopefully there will be enough correlation with historical point charts that it is not controversial.

Interesting stuff -- and very happy to own HGVC.

Best,

Greg
 
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I divested all but one of my TS Weeks a few years ago (except one) due to age. Back when I had many Weeks at HOA Controlled Independents I swore off the big boys although I kept my Monarch Crown Suite until my family outgrew it.

Many times I traded into HGVC Resorts in Las Vegas and was very impressed. Because of my love of HHI and how impressed I was with HGVC Vegas Resorts if I were to get back in, I would be very tempted to buy (carefully) HGVC on HHI. Keys would be price, location, MF and ability to get a desirable Week with certainty.

George
 
holdaer said:
All,

I'm not familiar with the location but this seems like another win for HGVC members. HGVC just purchased a 7acre site in Hilton Head, SC. Looks like pre-development sales begin April 2015 with a scheduled grand opening to be summer 2016.

Since Marriott has so many TS in Hilton Head, I'm thinking this might be a really good vacation spot.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ns-Strand-Capital-Group-Announce#.VLUodNLF8mk
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A good article to read about this resort came be found on the web on The Resort Trades.com
 
pedro47 said:
A good article to read about this resort came be found on the web on The Resort Trades.com
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That's the same article linked above in the thread. As far as I can see it's the press release from HGVC and the only article so far that officially announces this development.

(About your reference - resorttrades.com is the website. I tried theresorttradesDOTcom and was redirected to an amazon.com page for a memory stick. Thanks for the web adventure. :) )
 
SueDonJ said:
That's the same article linked above in the thread. As far as I can see it's the press release from HGVC and the only article so far that officially announces this development.

(About your reference - resorttrades.com is the website. I tried theresorttradesDOTcom and was redirected to an amazon.com page for a memory stick. Thanks for the web adventure.
:) )
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I found this information from the TUG's Topic "This Is How HOA's Makes Major Changes Without Most Owners Realizing It."

Look at the post above my last post. Please read some of the old articles from this web site (back to January 2013) Thread # 21.
 
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pedro47 said:
I found this information from the TUG's Topic "This Is How HOA's Makes Major Changes Without Most Owners Realizing It."

Look at the post above my last post. Please read some of the old articles from this web site (back to January 2013) Thread # 21.
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After making my way there I agree that resorttrades.com looks like a great website and I'm looking forward to some more reading. But I just wanted to point out that the way it's written in your post above (" ... on the web on The Resort Trades.com ...") if someone tries the same theresrottradesDOTcom that I did then they won't get anywhere. :)
 
SueDonJ said:
After making my way there I agree that resorttrades.com looks like a great website and I'm looking forward to some more reading. But I just wanted to point out that the way it's written in your post above (" ... on the web on The Resort Trades.com ...") if someone tries the same theresrottradesDOTcom that I did then they won't get anywhere. :)
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Thanks for the correction
 
Any best guesses what the points will be?
7000/8400/9600 like all 2bd rooms Platinum or the 50% higher count of 10500/12600/14400 like Kingsland/ GW?

Maui almost certainly will be the higher rate, but HHI?

Certainly good news to get this addition to the portfolio!
 
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