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Old May 10, 2006, 02:57 PM   #1
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Air France to Europe - as low as $438

If you've been looking, you know air fare to Europe has been exhorbitant. Got my tickets to Rome/Venice for $528! www.airfrance.us


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Old May 10, 2006, 03:04 PM   #2
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Re: Air France to Europe - as low as $438

Is that one way? Leaving from where?

I need return leaving from Seattle and could find nothing even close to that!

You are very fortunate.
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Old May 10, 2006, 06:51 PM   #3
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Re: Air France to Europe - as low as $438

The Air France website used to have multiple deals from each of their US gateways on their US website all the time, and the site was very user friendly to find them. Now it is hit or miss, but they sometimes still have good fares.
I used to regularly check their deals from Dulles and bought them from time to time. Since their website changes, I rarely even look anymore.
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Old May 11, 2006, 11:26 AM   #4
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Re: Air France to Europe - as low as $438

I just say in the paper today that AirFrance is having a "60 years flying from the USA" sale. Buy by May 21 (???I think that's right) and you can get roundtrip starting at $538 into Paris, plus you can then get a roundtrip ticket for $60 connecting to many other European cities. They aren't for summer travel, but I think the travel starts next October through March or April 2007. I'm wondering if I should plan my winter trip now and grab a ticket???!
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Old May 11, 2006, 12:59 PM   #5
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Re: Air France to Europe - as low as $438

Is this with or without taxes and fees?

There are often better sale prices that come along even if those are included for November through March. October and April might represent decent value.
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Old May 12, 2006, 12:36 AM   #6
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Re: Air France to Europe - as low as $438

Search Fare Basis Code LX60AF


Code:
Fare Rules
 
FARE BASIS CODE
LX60AF
 
BK CODE
L -
 
PENALTY
CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - -1- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT --- --- THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT AT THE DATE OF REISSUE UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - CHANGE OR REROUTING WITH SAME FARE BASIS -- SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND MAY BE DIFFERENT THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY SPECIAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS --- --- --- CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - -2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/ --- --- CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS. --- ---AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - -3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY --- --- THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED BY USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - CHANGE OR REROUTING WITH SAME FARE BASIS -- SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND MAY BE DIFFERENT THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY SPECIAL FARER THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - --- REFUND --- -1- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE --- --- -2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/ TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE --- --- --- -3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE
 
RES/TKTG
RES MUST BE MADE NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS BEFORE DPTR OF FIRST SGMT. TKT MUST BE PURCHASED NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN OR 1 DAY AFTER RES IS MADE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED. ------- RES MUST BE MADE 100 DAYS AND TKT PURCHASED 93 DAYS BEFORE DPTR. FIRST SGMT MUST MEET ADV RES. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED. ------- RES MUST BE MADE NO EARLIER THAN 99 DAYS AND NO LATER THAN 11 DAYS BEFORE DPTR OF FIRST SGMT. TKT MUST BE PURCHASED NO EARLIER THAN 99 DAYS AND NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN OR 7 DAYS AFTER RES IS MADE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED.
 
MIN STAY
RETURN TRVL IS VALID ON THE 1ST SUN AFTER 12:01 A.M.. MEASURED FROM DPTR FROM GATEWAY.
 
MAX STAY
RETURN TRVL MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 1 MONTH. MEASURED FROM DPTR FROM GATEWAY TO LAST STOPOVER POINT.
 
DAY/TIME
APPLIES AT ANY TIME MON-THU ON INTL SECTOR. DAY/TIME IS BASED ON TRIP DATE OF INTL SECTOR.
 
SEASONS
15OCT06-31MAR07. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN AND IS DETERMINED BY DATE OF DEPARTURE OF OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
 
BLACKOUTS
NO BLACKOUT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
 
EFF/EXP
TICKET MAY BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 11MAY06 AND MUST BE ISSUED BY 22MAY06.
 
FLT APPL
APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT ANY LH/BA/IB/LX/SK/AA/US/UA FLIGHT.
 
STOPOVERS
A FREE STOPOVER IS PERMITTED AT PAR, IF IN ROUTING APPLICABLE TO FARE. A STOPOVER OCCURS WHEN THE PASSENGER DOES NOT DEPART AN INTERMEDIATE POINT WITHIN 24 HOURS.
 
TICKET RESTRICTIONS
TICKET RESTRICTION MAY APPLY. CONTACT THE CARRIER FOR PROVISIONS.
 
SURCHGS
SURCHG OF USD 65.00 APPLIES PER ADT/CHD/INF IN EACH DIRECTION. APPLIES TO TRANSATLANTIC INTL SECTOR. SURCHG MUST BE COLLECTED WHEN TKT ISSUED IN UNITED STATES.
 
DISCOUNTS
100 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR A CNN PSGR 2 THRU 11 YRS OF AGE. CNN PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. - - - - 100 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INS PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE. INS PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. - - - - 10 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INF PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. INF PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. *** NOTE - FOR SECURITY REASONS MAX - 1 INFANT PER ESCORT. OR - NOTE - UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN UNDER 12 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR TRAVEL AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE./TOUR CONDUCTOR - NO DISCOUNT./AGENT - NO DISCOUNT
 
REROUTE
SEE PENALTY.
 
TRANSFERS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS AS PERMITTED ON THE ROUTING/MPM.
 
COMBINATIONS
CARRIER / RULE / FARE CIRCLE OPEN ROUND BASIS TRIP JAW TRIP SAME / SAME / SAME C C C SAME / SAME / DIFF C C C SAME / DIFF / SAME N N N SAME / DIFF / DIFF N N N DIFF / SAME / SAME N N N DIFF / SAME / DIFF N N N DIFF / DIFF / SAME N N N DIFF / DIFF / DIFF N N N Y / PERMITTED N / NOT PERMITTED - / DOES NOT APPLY C / SEE TEXT FOR CONDITIONS CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO ROUND TRIP/CIRCLE TRIP/SINGLE OPEN JAW - -TRAVEL MUST BE ENTIRELY VIA AF OR AS PERMITTED IN THE ROUTING. -MAY BE COMBINED WITH ANY ONE WAY/ROUND TRIP FARE GOVERNED BY IPRA RULE 3610 VIA AF. -MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS APPLY ROUND TRIP - -PERMITTED. CIRCLE TRIP - -PERMITTED. -NO MORE THAN 2 INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. OPEN JAW - -SINGLE OPEN JAW PERMITTED AT EITHER ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. END-ON-END - -PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES. -COMBINATIONS WITH THIS FARE MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. -CONDITIONS APPLY TO ALL FARE COMPONENTS OF THE JOURNEY. -TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE FARE COMBINATION POINT.
 
OPEN RTN
NOT ALLOWED.
 
REFUNDS
SEE PENALTY.
 
CO-TERMINALS
NOT APPLICABLE.
 
INTL CONST
MAY BE COMBINED WITH APPLICABLE ARBITRARIES.
 
MISC
NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.
Looks to be 498+ from WAS/NYC and 698+ from SFO/LAX to ROM, as examples.

Sample fares from NYC:

Code:
Fare Details
 
Departing Airport 	NYC
Arriving Airport 	ROM
Departure Date 	10/15/06
 
Note:
The fares listed do not include airport and/or security fees.
 
Fare Basis 	Airline 	Booking Class 	Trip Type 	Fare 	Effective Date 	Expiration Date 	 
30 Fares Returned
LX60AF 	AF 	L 	Round-Trip 	498.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
LW60AF 	AF 	L 	Round-Trip 	558.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
VKXNRUS5 	AF 	V 	Round-Trip 	739.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
VKWNRUS5 	AF 	V 	Round-Trip 	799.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
TKXABUS4 	AF 	T 	Round-Trip 	819.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
TKWABUS4 	AF 	T 	Round-Trip 	879.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing

Sample itinerary:

Code:
 Flight Availability - NYC to ROM - 10/17/06
Airline 	Flight 	Stops 	Departure 	Arrival 	Aircraft 	Meal 	Available Classes 	 
6 Flights Returned
1 Connection
  	AF 	23 	0 	JFK
10/17/06 05:05PM 	CDG
10/18/06 06:00AM 	772 	MB 	P4 F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I9 Z9 O0 Y9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 X8 L9 N0 G0 U0 	
AF (AZ) 	9830 	0 	CDG
10/18/06 07:00AM 	FCO
10/18/06 09:05AM 	321 		C9 D9 Z9 Y9 S9 R9 B9 K9 H9 M9 T9 Q9 V9 L9 U9 W9 E9 A9 N9

 Flight Availability - ROM to NYC - 10/24/06
Airline 	Flight 	Stops 	Departure 	Arrival 	Aircraft 	Meal 	Available Classes 	 
6 Flights Returned
1 Connection
  	AF (AZ) 	9831 	0 	FCO
10/24/06 07:00AM 	CDG
10/24/06 09:10AM 	M80 		C9 D9 Z9 Y9 S9 R9 B9 K9 H9 M9 T9 Q9 V9 L9 U9 W9 E9 A9 N9 	
AF 	12 	0 	CDG
10/24/06 10:15AM 	JFK
10/24/06 12:10PM 	772 	MS 	P3 F2 A0 J9 C9 D9 I9 Z9 O0 Y9 B9 K9 H9 W7 T9 V9 X0 L9 N0 G0 U0
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