No liquid or gels can be carried aboard planes!

[Dave M]

In addition to the new security measures being implemented for U.K./U.S. flights, the following rules are applicable as of this morning for flights departing from U.S. airports to any destination, including other U.S. airports:

TSA is immediately implementing following changes to airport screening procedures:

NO LIQUIDS OR GELS OF ANY KIND WILL BE PERMITTED IN CARRY-ON BAGGAGE. ITEMS MUST BE IN CHECKED BAGGAGE. This includes all beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, tooth paste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency.
Exception: Baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby or small child is traveling; prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger’s ticket; and insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines

Beverages purchased in the sterile area must be consumed before boarding because they will not be permitted onboard the aircraft.

[funtime]

Security is security but one thing that made me a far less cranky traveler is that I would bring a thermous of coffee and my own insulated coffee mug. Coffee was made my way. I was one happy camper sipping coffee and reading the paper and I was not mad when it took an hour for them to provide any kind of service on board. It looks like that small luxury is a thing of the past as is dragging on a starbucks.

[short]

This will have a big impact on folks who do not check bags but carry on. Business travelers etc.

What about bottled water?

Also might not be allowed although it does not have the consistency of shampoo.

Short

[philemer]

Originally Posted by short

This will have a big impact on folks who do not check bags but carry on. Business travelers etc.

What about bottled water?

Also might not be allowed although it does not have the consistency of shampoo.

Short

You can carry an EMPTY water bottle thru security & then fill it up after you're in a secure area. Just saw this on TV.

Phil

[pvangordon]

The article I just read mentioned makeup too. For exempt items, they're subject to inspection, so make sure they're easy to access.

I just came back from a London trip last Thursday - thankfully I didn't have this problem then, because I brought back several bottles of one of my favorite UK sodas in a carry-on bag!

[Dave M]

Makeup would be included in the prohibition, if it's in liquid or gel form. Bottled water is prohibited.

NO LIQUIDS....

I'm not sure you'll be able to fill the water bottle and then take it on the plane. Note the official TSA wording from above, prohibiting liquids from being taken aboard aircraft:

Beverages purchased in the sterile area must be consumed before boarding because they will not be permitted onboard the aircraft.

However, I'm not sure how anyone would find out that you had a full water bottle if you filled it and then stuck it in your carry-on bag after clearing TSA Security. But if you pull it out while on the plane and someone sees you, will you be subject to arrest upon landing? I'm not volunteering to be the first to find out.

Also, I notice that TSA has now made it a requirement that all shoes be taken off and X-rayed. Until now it has generally been "recommended", with a risk of secondary screening if passengers don't follow the recommendation.

[DeniseM]

On the bright side - liquids and gels are very heavy (relative to their size) and can add a lot of weight to your carry-on luggage. We have already been avoiding packing them because we like to travel light. Most timeshares and hotels provide essentials like shampoo and lotion, and it's pretty easy to stop at a discount store a pick up a few other items.

I think this new rule may be a problem for women who are very particular about their cosmetics, or use expensive high-end cosmetics and toiletries that can't be purchased easily or are very expensive. But it just gives me even more reason to travel light.

[2hokies]

Just heard on news radio that some airports have a secondary security set up near the gates to make sure that any beverages you purchase after you go through security are consumed before boarding.

[dmharris]

We are able to put all these liquid and gel items into baggage that is checked, however. So we can still have our toiletries, just not inside the cabin. This will tick off business travelers who carry on all their luggage. And hey, does this apply for the crew?

Coming back from Aruba, we saw crew dead-heading and they had FOUR carry on's each! And we are given such a hazzle with two and a lunch bag; have to put the lunch bag into another bag! The rules are the rules, including the crew or am I wrong?

Traveling used to be joyful not frustrating and fearful. Oh whoa and alas!

[dawg]

I thought I heard on the morning news that laptops and Ipods were not being allowed either. that they needed to be check. I have not been able to confim that. This was on a Seattle news cast this morning.

Dale

[Kay H]

My dil was supossed to fly from Philly to Boston at 7:30 this AM for an overnight business trip. She had 1 carryon suitcase and a purse. She called at 7:15 and said she was in a very long line for security and she would never make her flight. I'm sure her flight was delayed because ther had to be others on her flight who were delayed. I hope she doesn't miss her meetings.

Pat H, I sure hope your daughter makes it to Pa safely. Parents always have something to worry about .

[azsunluvr]

Originally Posted by dmharris

We are able to put all these liquid and gel items into baggage that is checked, however. So we can still have our toiletries, just not inside the cabin.

The problem with that is that everything in checked baggage comes out all misshapen or squeezed out. I always carry on my toiletries so I don't have lotion explosion in my suitcase. It'll be double ziplocks for everything if it has to go in checked luggage.

[Amy]

This is terrible -- I have to check all my contact solution stuff? I don't think it falls into non-prescription medicine. I never check that stuff in case my checked bags get loss.

[talkamotta]

When we went to Australia, for the long trip I took some wine to help me sleep. I guess I will have to drink it before I get on the plane.

[Keitht]

Hopefully the draconian restrictions will only be in place for a short time.
Consider the question for a moment "Which would you prefer some cosmetic marks on your clothes or being blown out of the sky?" It's a stark question but one that obviously had to be asked by the people in charge of national security.
As a general answer to the various questions about what you can or cannot carry at present, the statement about travel from the UK is unequivocal. Only cash, tickets,keys, prescription medicines, contact lens cases - but not solution, baby food and 'hygiene products' for ladies and babies. Liquid baby food must be tasted by the adult with the infant before it is allowed on board. If it isn't on that list, it cannot be taken onto the plane. Passengers from the UK are currently being issued with clear bags for those essentials. They can't take things in their pockets.
No other liquids of any kind, including those purchased 'air side' can be taken on board.

[Dave M]

Originally Posted by dawg

I thought I heard on the morning news that laptops and Ipods were not being allowed either. that they needed to be check.

That's true, but only on flights between the U.S. and the U.K.

[Liz Wolf-Spada]

Just when I had finally figured out how to take a backpack only and not have to do checked luggage for a 2 or 3 day trip. Hotels aren't a problem, but staying with friends and often timeshares don't provide toiletries. This should help toiletry sales at airports. I guess I just won't take make up. They are saying that in Britain, no electronics. When my camera got damaged last year flying on Hawaiin, in packed and checked luggage, and they said it wasn't supposed to be in checked baggage. I always carry a little noise machine from brookstone to help me sleep and my phone charger. Hope that's not a problem.
Liz

[2hokies]

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions on new security measures:
http://www.tsa.gov/press/where_we_st..._measures.shtm

[Icarus]

Well, the TSA Q&A only mentions liquids. Not toothpaste or gels. But the link Dave M posted does mention that toothpaste and gels are prohibited, but it also seems to be related more to US flights originating in the UK. So, as usual, it's all as clear as mud.

-David

[2hokies]

This link mentions gels. Of course, all info can't be on one page...to keep us on our toes....
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/..._guidance.shtm

[Dave M]

The new rules, which I quoted and linked in my first post, specifically ban gels. That's for all flights originating in the U.S., no matter whether flying to a nearby city, to the U.K. or to any other destination.

The FAQs provide explanatory info to clear up some possible confusion. The FAQs don't try to repeat everything that is included in the basic rules.

Thus, there isn't any conflict between the rules and the FAQs.

The separate rules for flights between the U.S. and the U.K. (linked in the thread on that topic) are much more restrictive than the ones discussed here.

[dmharris]

Wow! No eye drops!? Tasting the baby food?

What about neck roll pillows?

Man!!

[laynemiller]

Hi all, this information was just made available. It might help you:


WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Jessica Bennett
Newsweek

Updated: 12:25 a.m. MT Aug 10, 2006

Aug. 10, 2006 - Travelers braced themselves for cancellations, rebookings and hours-long delays as word of Thursday's purported foiled terror plot spread. In a televised statement, President George W. Bush said travelers would indeed be inconvenienced by what officials said was a plot to blow up aircraft mid-flight between Britain and the United States, but urged their patience. "We live in a dangerous world," Bush said.

The United States issued its highest terrorism alert—red—for commercial flights from Britain to the United States and raised security to orange—the second highest alert—for all other air travel. In Britain, meanwhile, officials raised security to its highest level and banned carry-on luggage on all flights. The Department of Homeland Security was advising travelers to go about plans confidently but to arrive for flights with plenty of time ahead, and to be especially vigilant of their surroundings. They also asked travelers to be patient with extended security screenings and delays.

In airports around the United States, airline officials urged travelers to consider not bringing carry-on luggage. Passengers will not be allowed to carry liquids or gels of any kind onto the plane with them, and rather than packing toiletries in carry-ons, airport officials asked passengers to put them in checked baggage that can be screened by equipment to detect explosives. The liquids that are prohibited in the cabin of aircraft include toothpaste, makeup, perfume and suntan lotion. Baby formula and medicines were exempt but subject to additional screening.

Though U.S. airlines continued to cancel and delay U.K. flights, some were allowing travelers to obtain refunds, sidestep change fees and check extra baggage. The Federal Aviation Administration was urging travelers to take the following steps:
# Pack lightly, without clutter to facilitate easier screening
# Check with your air carrier well before your flight departs for information on when you should arrive at the airport
# Cooperate with security personnel at all checkpoints and gates
# Be attentive and vigilant to any suspicious activity

For more information on travel restrictions in the United States and Britain:
# U.S. Transportation Security Administration
# Department of Homeland Security

[Dave M]

Originally Posted by dmharris

What about neck roll pillows?

I don't see a smiley face, so I'll assume you are serious in what you ask.

No changes to what can be carried on U.S. to U.S. flights, except as specified above. Thus, unless the pillow is filled with liquid or gel....

[BevL]

I'm sure it will all settle down in a bit. I'm just glad I'm not flying for several months!!

Bev