How Bad are the Massanutten Tours?

[CMF]

I've been curious about Massanutten and recently received and invitation to stay for 3 days/2 nights. But there is a "90 minute" tour involved and they don't put you up in a timeshare unit. They put you up in a hotel room. I'm thinking this will not be a good experience (my twin 5 year olds will not be amused if we drag them along on a tour).

Has anyone reading this taken the Massanutten sales pitch? Is it as awful as I predict it will be? How are the hotels? Too small for 3 adults and 2 kids?

Thanks,
Charles

[Spence]

Originally Posted by CMF

I've been curious about Massanutten and recently received and invitation to stay for 3 days/2 nights. But there is a "90 minute" tour involved and they don't put you up in a timeshare unit. They put you up in a hotel room. I'm thinking this will not be a good experience (my twin 5 year olds will not be amused if we drag them along on a tour). Has anyone reading this taken the Massanutten sales pitch? Is it as awful as I predict it will be? How are the hotels? Too small for 3 adults and 2 kids? Thanks, Charles

It was a long time ago, my first TS tour as a married couple. Put us up in a Holiday Inn Express type accomodation and wouldn't give us the cert to check out until after 'completing' the tour. It was the hardest sell I've ever had, miserable, I swore off tours and TS for 15 years!

[JoAnn]

Years ago..maybe 10-12, we exchanged into Massunutten and took their tour. It was a very hard sell and, alas, we ended up buying (pre-Tug). They really wore us down. We did get them way down in price, and we still own it, but have never been back. Just used it for exchanging and it does OK.

You have one advantage...the 5 year old twins ...load them up with sugar and maybe the sales people will be glad to get rid of you

[BarCol]

Ours was a few years ago now, but it was 3 hours of hard sales...of course that was before we had endured the Mayan Palace schtick...but i wouldn't do it again regardless of the incentives.....just my $.02 worth

[Robnsunny]

The worst part is that they take you in their car to show you a unit. Once in the car, you're trapped. They'll drive you all over the resort, which is quite large. We've taken it several times as we go there a couple of times a year. We've never gotten out in less than 3 hrs.

[chicklet]

My husband and I took this tour a couple of years ago and they were downright rude. Plus they hit on my while my husband was sitting there (mentioned something about keeping my husband busy and my husband said he was right and that we could hardly even make it to the presentation) Had to laugh and they lost all credibility. I told them i was not interested...brought in the big guns and they asked me if i would want it if was $l.00...told them I would be nuts not to buy it for $1.00...you see where i'm going with this. We were not going to buy so they got mad...i told them they were the ones repeatedly calling me for a tour so I finally went again (had been 1 year before) for the Massunutten $100 bucks. We were out of there in 1 hour!!

[Egret1986]

We had exchanged into Massanutten several times over the years. It had been probably 20 years since we went on a timeshare tour. We exchanged in three years ago into a Summit unit. When we checked in, we had to go pick our parking pass up at another area. They told us they need some opinions on the resort and offered $100 Massanutten bucks if we would do their survey. Since it had been so long since we took a tour, we didn't realize that it was for a timeshare presentation. The salesman was nice enough, but we were with these folks for almost four hours. The person after the salesman was okay and understood we weren't going to buy. However the person we had to speak to to get our bucks was extremely rude and nasty. I wouldn't do it again no matter what, anywhere, again. It takes away from my vacation time and when they become rude and nasty in the end when you don't buy, it really is the pitts. Also, I have twins (12 years old). The last stay in a hotel room for two nights made me decide I can't do hotel rooms any more with our family of four. If you're an RCI member, get a cheap extra vacation at Massanutten and you can see enough to decide if you would want to own there. Our favorite units over the years have been Mountainside Villas. After that horrible experience, I picked up a summer week at the Villas for $350 + a reasonable closing cost. I love the unit because it is an end unit and it's a vacation to do as much as we want or as little. Good luck with your decision!

[CMF]

But I'll keep my eye out for good Massanutten deals.

Charles

[mishugana]

Wonder how long they will keep you in there if you wear a tshirt with"I only buy resale at 20% or less!!"

[NTHC]

I will gladly supply t-shirts that say...."I BOUGHT MINE FROM THE NATIONAL TIMESHARE HELP CENTER"

Cindy

[CMF]

Originally Posted by NTHC

I will gladly supply t-shirts that say...."I BOUGHT MINE FROM THE NATIONAL TIMESHARE HELP CENTER"

Cindy

The prices are a bit more than the bargain I'm looking for - especially the week 17 with an asking price of $30K.


What kind of help does NTHC offer exactly??

Charles

[mbender10]

The only time I was there was last spring with a group of friends for a golf weekend. We received "the call" to take the tour. I said I was there golfing with a bunch of other guys and we had been drinking all weekend. She couldn't say good bye fast enough realizing there was no sales lead here.

[bigrick]

We exchanged into Massanutten in May of this year. We took the tour on one of the last days we were there. We learned a lot about all they had to offer on-site. We were too busy hiking and caving to do anything on-site. The pitch was interesting but we already knew we weren't going to buy from the developer.

The bucks we received we didn't use (since we wanted to see the area not the resort) so we gave them to an incoming family with several kids.

[wrkirt]

We bought our first timeshare at Mountainside villas about 6-7 years ago, sell was not too hard. I would not worry about the hardsell as i would come armed with some resale data from TUG as well as ads on TUG and i would make it clear from the beginning that you are a TUG member and do not buy RETAIL.
I would be more concerned with going for 3 days and 2 nights and staying in a motel with twin 5 year olds. Once you travel with timeshares and families, separate bedrooms, full kitchens, washer/dryers, living rooms, etc; its very hard to stay in a motel unless you are Disney.
Bill in Germantown MD

[Spence]

Originally Posted by CMF

The prices are a bit more than the bargain I'm looking for - especially the week 17 with an asking price of $30K.

No matter what you tell some people, they still believe the salesman who insinuated that their 'investment' would gain in value.

Originally Posted by CMF

What kind of help does NTHC offer exactly?? Charles

If you want their version of what they do, you probably saw it here but they're just real knowledgeable people who can give advice and help you use or rent or sell your timeshare. They charge a nominal membership fee and commission on any rental or sale.

[teachingmyown]

Originally Posted by bigrick

The bucks we received we didn't use (since we wanted to see the area not the resort) so we gave them to an incoming family with several kids.

Speaking as a family with several kids that was a REALLY NICE thing to do!!!

We did the tour early this year, took the bucks and had a great time using them for crafts, a massage class, at the waterpark, on the tube slope, etc. (We also bought the activity pass). I feel we actually got a fair return for our time, especially considering that we got a full breakfast (not just a pastry and juice like in Orlando) for the five of us in the bargain. It did take too long, however. Our salesman wasn't rude, but he was "schmoooove" (smooth) and really laid it on thick but we wouldn't budge and we insisted that we had to be done before 11:30 due to a 12 o'clock appointment. I'm convinced that was the only thing that got us out in just under 3 hours! DON'T get in their car!! He first told us he was only going to take us to see two units, but we actually saw either 3 or 4, plus drove up to the top of the mountain to look out over the entire complex. He did omit the Waterpark which had been the hook they had used when pitching the tour to us to begin with, but we assured him that we were planning to spend the day there the next day anyway.

[NTHC]

Charles,
Keep in mind that everything is negotiable. We list weeks for what the owners want for them. It often takes awhile for reality to set in with people when it comes to the value of their timeshares.

Thanks,
Cindy

[hvsteve1]

I have never had a salesman take me through the whole tour when I show up wearing my TUG t-shirt. They have to chat with me for a minimum time, usually over breakfast or refreshments, to validate the "tour", but give me my gift and get me out of the way pretty quickly.

[glenmore]

Went to our first and only timeshare presentation at Massanutten about 15 years ago - never had such a "hard sell" or dealt with such rude people in our lives. Only good thing is that it kept us out of timesharing until we found TUG. Love timesharing now - but would never repeat that experience for any price.

[carl2591]

we did a tour last year during exchange to mountionside villas, they called offering first 50 mass bucks, then 100. I told them I wanted 125. they said OK. We went to breakfast and sat down with nice guy in owners sales.. they tend to be more low key as they are dealing with owner/exchangers. Told him i had several SA timeshare and we exchanged for gold crown most of the time. He was familer with TUG so the pressure was off. We did not go on tour just sat aroiund for 90 min and talked about timeshare..

Before the tour had them put the 125 mass bucks offer on paper and took that in to tour..
they tend to forget sometimes..

125 mass bucks are good anywhere on the resort except for beer and such..

[btcctomtb]

Originally Posted by hvsteve1

I have never had a salesman take me through the whole tour when I show up wearing my TUG t-shirt. They have to chat with me for a minimum time, usually over breakfast or refreshments, to validate the "tour", but give me my gift and get me out of the way pretty quickly.

Where are these shirts avail?

[Jamerican71]

I did the tour September 2006 and would do it all over again. I got a $150 Visa check card and 2 free nights so it was worth it to me. Plus got t-shirt and backpack for the 20 fake names and addresses I gave them.

After sitting down to breakfast with the rep, I told him I own already and was only interested in resale plus most of my TS advice has come from TUG. Still polite and friendly, he said I shouldn't have been offered this type of promo so he gave us the "abbreviated" tour. We did the tour anyways and it lasted about 3 hours and you are driving around the property in their personal vehicle so you are trapped.

The room is 2 double beds, small sitting area, balcony, regular size bathroom and has a small fridge. I went with my mom, cousin and pregnant sister and we were comfortable but another night would have pushed us over the edge.

I did get a July 2007 exchange so I'm hpoing they do call me with a gift tour as I will do it again but just not getting in the car for the property tour.

[CMF]

Originally Posted by btcctomtb

Where are these shirts avail?

http://www.cafepress.com/timeshare/


Charles