Mountgroup closing company

Tuggers I need your help. I purchased a property yesterday on e-bay and have received a request to send the funds through paypal to Mountgroup timeshare closing company. This seems weird to me as this is my 5th purchase over e-bay and have always been sent a purchasing contract prior to submitting payment??? The seller goes by the name of timesharebroker on ebay and it looks like David Goodman is his name. Does anyone know anything about this seller and closing company? Thanks much for your help.

Bob

Verify by asking the seller a question as to whether they are indeed the closing company or just a scammer. (Scammers do that sometimes).

Then politely ask for a sales contract.

Good luck and congrats!

I told him that I wouldn't send money until which time I received a sales contract and he replied that he would get it notorized and then send it to me and after I received it to do the same. The part that is weird is that he responded by using my e-mail address instead of my name which I gave him along with my address right after the auction ended - he also asked for the names to be listed and my address... he already should have had that info.

Again, I do not know these particular people but it is VERY correct to ask fro the names and address exactly as they should appear on the deed. If multiple names they should also ask the relationship between the parties.

Very often, the name and address used to register on Ebay is slang or shortened. You may register as "Junior Jones" while your legal name (which must be used for legal docs such as deeds" is actually Michael Jones, Jr. He may also be trying to clarify that he needs full legal names. I have often be given names when doing a closing which are clearly not full legal names until I explain what and why needed.

And very few Ebayer's register their account including their spouses name as another example.

Just remember that in practical reality the contract serves but one purpose, to make sure that all facts and descriptions of exactly what you are getting are spelled out so both parties know and agree to exactly what is being sold.

I doubt anyone will go to court at a multi-thousand dollar expense over the sale of a $500 timeshare. That's why I minimize the traditional legal function of enforcability of the sales contract to the more important role of clarifying the exact understanding between the parties.

I am not defending this seller, but nothing you have pointed out scares me other than making sure the property is clearly described before transfer.

John

Better yet, try to insist on choosing your own closer, whom you can trust. Try to find one in the same state where the timeshare is located.

Thanks for the advice. One last thing, I checked on the address of the closing company and it is a UPS store. I gave them a call and they said that they have PO boxes that people rent from them and that this is the case here... should that spook me a bit?? He has sent a contract and I will follow up with the resort to see if I can learn any more. I have also asked to use a CA closer -- good advice Carolinian, no response yet. The property is the Carlsbad Inn ... and I do want this to be on the up and up as I really want the property. Thanks again.

MTgolfer-- please shoot me an email if you can. I purchased from this seller in april 07 as well and would like to talk to you.
aleo101@yahoo.com

Call the guy and call the closing company. Ask your questions about who they are and their physical address. Who they bank with and were the money will be held till the transfer is complete.

Please email me as well regarding this seller. It took more than half a year, many threats, unreturned emails, unreturned calls to a number which was eventually disconnected, and finally I received communication with a refund after I threatened the UPS store for being involved in a scam. I even called the Dept of Commerce to get their notary's contact info. He's the guy that runs the UPS delivery store. Funny that Mr. Goodman was willing to return his calls.

Ultimately, I would have rather had the week for which I paid. However, this seller never even had clear title. I have purchased over twenty ts on ebay, but will never deal with someone who does not use a proper title company or return calls/emails. I would have just let it go, if it had not been a higher priced Maui week. I honestly thought I would never get my money back.

Just my experience for what it's worth. . .

Jana

Beware Mountgroup Closing

Mountgroup CLosing is, in fact, a guy named Dave Goodman from Ohio.

He has been operating on eBay for several years now. Two years ago, I bid on and won what I thought was a very good deal on a Marriott Resale from him.

Turned out, he was selling a property he really didn't have. After several months, I finally got my money back.

I think his scam is to "float" several deals at a time, paying off angry buyers with proceeds from newer deals.

I got him thrown off eBay, but he is back now, operating as "Lunchguy1".

You want more info on Dave Goodman, contact me........

Ebay timeshare fraud - David Goodman - Mountgroup

I too was scammed by David Goodman. I "bought" a timeshare on ebay from lunchguy1 and paid by Visa/PayPal to Mountgroup(which is in fact David Goodman) in July 2007. I read the previous posts in December 2007 and realized that I was being scammed. Based on information that Jana and Bob provided I sent him an email accusing him of fraud and he admitted that he was not able to transfer title to me but he would refund my money. Of course the money never came. After threatening him with the Attorney General and the police he advised me that he didn't have any money to pay me but that he would some time in the future. Fortunately Visa covered our loss in the end. Stay away from this guy and furthermore a lesson hard learned - DO NOT SEND MONEY FOR A TIMESHARE PURCHASE UNLESS YOU ARE SATISFIED IT IS A LEGITIMATE ESCROW COMPANY!!! Thanks Jana and Bob for all your help

David Goodman, 1 year now

It has been a year since I've given 1955.00 dollars to David Goodman. Like everyone else, after waiting the 90 days he had nothing but excuses and a promise to pay me back.
He then disappeared and I found his AOL name via this board and we started to communicate again, again, alot of promises.

I filled out a complaint with the United States Post Office for mail fraud as he sent me the sales agreement via Priority Mail. I urged anyone taken in by this guy to make the same complaint if the United States Postal service was in any way used.

He disappeared again on me about a month ago. I hope he gets an email from the FEDS real soon.