Would you deposit a Labor Day HHI beach vacation with II or RCI at this late date?

I reserved a two bedroom/2 bath loft villa at Player's Club for 9/01 check-in date, which is Labor Day week, but now I am going to have to cancel. Will I get any decent trade power if I deposit it so late? The resort is dual-affiliated, and I'm in both RCI and II, so which exchange company would give me best/most trade power for a prime holiday beach week, deposited less than two months out? If not a deposit for exchange, does anyone have suggestions for me? TIA!

Give it to Trading Places. It's your best bet for decent trade power this close to check-in you won't get a bonus week but chances are you'll get a decent trade from them.

Otherwise you can always attempt to rent it. A lot of school districts are back is session down south though, so I don't know what kind of demand there is for that area at that time of year.

I would attempt to rent it. HHI should be a year-round golfer's paradise.

Those without kids that love the area will enjoy it that time of year, especially with school back in session.

Thanks for your opinions. Lawren I'd be curious why you think it's good to give TPI prime weeks. I gave them a prime summer week already, it was snapped up immediately, and all I see available on their website is below-par resorts with so much repetition it's not even worth me looking. It seems everyone dumps their SA weeks there, and their other low trade power stuff, and they snap up all the good stuff. Except for that one Ocho week you turned someone on to (during mosquito season, but still, it's Ocho) what have you actually seen on their board that you'd like to exchange for? Just curious, my friend...but what do you see in them that I seem to be missing?

Carol C said:

Thanks for your opinions. Lawren I'd be curious why you think it's good to give TPI prime weeks. I gave them a prime summer week already, it was snapped up immediately, and all I see available on their website is below-par resorts with so much repetition it's not even worth me looking. It seems everyone dumps their SA weeks there, and their other low trade power stuff, and they snap up all the good stuff. Except for that one Ocho week you turned someone on to (during mosquito season, but still, it's Ocho) what have you actually seen on their board that you'd like to exchange for? Just curious, my friend...but what do you see in them that I seem to be missing?

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They don't publish all they have available. You are much better off putting in a request which is not charged until they fill it. If you want OC and are open enough in your dates you might just get it.

Do you really think RCI would give you any type of exchange power at this late date? They are treating my summer CC deposited 11 months out like a SA or WBurg week and I'm not the only one feeling that.

Prime is in the eye of the beholder. September in the southeast?

JMHO and it is worth what you paid for it. :whoopie:

Carol, when exactly is mosquito season in Mexico (PV & NV)? We have been going to Mexico for the last ten years in Jan and Feb. They never had mosquitos but they had them this year and in May too. They didn't have them in May last year and not in November either so when is normally the mosquito season over there?

PS. Carol, Ocho Cascadas was not an exchange! This was available to any one but Lawren spotted it first and I got it because of her. I will be for ever grateful to her as the resort is unique. Here is one picture to show you what I mean or here is my photo album too.

I'd probably try to rent the week out on eBay, Carol. You have to become Squaretrade Travel Verified, which takes a few days. I actually just listed a North Carolina week with a July 22, 2007 check-in a few days ago. I already have one bid, and 10 people watching the auction. (I started the bidding at only $300 because it's so close to check-in, but the MF on the unit is only about that much.)

II will only give you a flexchange deposit, which I don't think would represent the value of your week at all. As for RCI, well, they seem to use any excuse to deny good trades.

Not II...you won't get diddly

I'm not clear on why you consider Players Club in September a "prime" week. II doesn't give this resort 5* status (although we can all agree that the 5* doesn't mean a lot except that II & the resort/developer have a special relationship.) This is also a week when probably 99% of schools are back in session. II will only give you trades within flextime with a late deposit such as this & I don't think your trade power would be very good. JMHO.

Not sure about RCI since I have never used them. TPI & HTSE would both accept your less than steller (in my opinion) deposit & impose no restrictions on what you could request in exchange. I'm not saying you would find a great "trade-up" as so many brag about when using RCI but at this late date you don't have a lot of options. You would at least have 2 years to find a trade you think is equal. Seems like renting it out might not be all that easy either.

I'd tend to choose the easy solution. I'd deposit with an independent.

TPI requires 70 days advance booking to guarantee an exchange

I recongize a number are promoting TPI but you need to deposit 70 days out (60 days at one of the resorts they manage) in order to guarantee your deposit. ie. if they can find someone to use your week. Otherwise, it's very possible you don't get anything. See this posting: http://69.16.236.4/~tugbbsc/forums/showthread.php?t=49792. So, in my mind, that's not much better than II or RCI. While the independents can be good, it's not a carte blanche statement for all situations.

Personally, I'd try and rent it. I've been lucky the last 2 years. I have a late Aug Myrtle Beach week we rent out and couldn't 2 years ago and deposited it with RCI right at the wire and was able to use it to pick up a big spacebank at a popular resort later on. The other one I dropped the price on Redweek and got a last minute renter.

Carol, of course it depends on what you would be willing to take as a trade. If you wait until Flexchange to use the deposit, you should get lots of possibilites.

If you want to go to Orlando, that would be easy. So I would use II, if I had to make the same decision, because I don't mind that last-minute exchange on occasion, plus I love Disneyworld. I can't lose, no matter how late I deposit. We need a smiley with Mickey ears!

Your deposit isn't all that late, anyway. I noticed that II has no availability for Hilton Head that week, so your trading power might be better than you think.

I deposited a Foxrun week at exactly 60 days out this year, still got an AC, and the trading power is great. You aren't that many days away from that magic 60.

[Edited to delete message. Yes, as you surmised, it's a good idea to start your own thread with that question rather than take this thread in that direction. Also, with an appropriate topical heading, you'll get more and better responses than here. Dave M, BBS Moderator]

iconnections said:

Carol, when exactly is mosquito season in Mexico (PV & NV)?

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Rainy season.

Wow, thanks for the excellent suggestions everyone! I think I'll try to rent it out via Ebay, which I've only used to buy things and never once used as a seller. May as well try that function on for size!

rickandcindy23 said:

.... I noticed that II has no availability for Hilton Head that week, so your trading power might be better than you think.

I deposited a Foxrun week at exactly 60 days out this year, still got an AC, and the trading power is great. You aren't that many days away from that magic 60.

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I'm not sure there is such a thing as trading power for Flexchange deposits. Don't they all trade the same (except for minor quality restrictions?)

I agree that II has some great things in Flexchange, but you can get them so easily that I just can't see depositing a "rentable" week to get a Flexchange deposit, especially when some nice TUGGERs will sometimes let people use their ACs for free.

Carol, I really don't know much about Hilton Head, but I see that II doesn't generally have online availability there until October. That's why I think September might be a decent renting week. You could list it on eBay with a reserve, or with whatever starting price you like, and then if it doesn't rent, you could deposit it up to 14 days out and still get your Flexchange trade. Renters tend to plan very late compared to exchangers, so if it doesn't rent right now, you could try again in a few weeks. Just make sure you leave enough time to make the 14 day Flexchange deposit deadline.

As for Trading Places, I think they will sometimes make an exception and promise a credit to a late depositer, even before they get a trader for that unit. Also, they might have an ongoing request for HHI for that week. It wouldn't hurt to call and ask; that is another option.

lawren2 said:

Give it to Trading Places. It's your best bet for decent trade power this close to check-in you won't get a bonus week but chances are you'll get a decent trade from them.

Otherwise you can always attempt to rent it. A lot of school districts are back is session down south though, so I don't know what kind of demand there is for that area at that time of year.

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Too late to deposit with TPI. You have to deposit 75 days in advance unless it's a TPI managed resort, like IPV. There's a thread about this on Ask TPI. Clarrification: You can deposit a week under 75 days but it's a 'provisional' deposit & they won't give you credit for it UNLESS they can get someone to grab it. Too risky in my eyes. I'd try to rent it. You might get a $100 or $200 on ebay.

Phil

Use flexchange with II as a last resort

Try to rent it out and then if you don't rent it by 15 days before check-in, deposit it with II so you don't lose it completely.

OR ask the resort now if you can trade it in for a later date (New Years?) and then you can either deposit with II later or with daelive with more of a lead time (I think they require 8 weeks). There may be another owner at the resort who can use the week you have. If you wait and deposit with II in flexchange, the week you deposit probably won't make much of a different anyway (because it's flexchange). Also, if you deposit with daelive (within their deposit requirements) they will let you trade for any unit they have available. The only trouble with daelive is that they don't have a lot of north america units available (at least not bigger ones).

September and early October are very popular months on HHI for golfers and empty nesters or those with tots. Waters are still warm and it's gold season for Marriott resorts. So I would say it may be the same for other resorts as well. When we visit in the fall the occupancy was high simply because the "kids were back in school."

Use II - ebay sales are down this year

I have rented several weeks on ebay but they have to be name properties such as Marriotts etc. If you decide to rent on ebay you may only get two to three hundred dollars -- it is very slow on ebay right now and it will be slow for a week after school is back in session. Go with II, you are in essence giving them a flexchange week and you will get a flexchange week in return -- all in all your very best bet, I like HTSE but they need time to deposit and you may not have made their deadline -- you can email and ask them about it though. II is your best bet. Also II exchangers do not deposit as early as RCI depositers so you are not as late in II as you would be in RCI. Good luck! Funtime

RCI gives me fantastic trades

I reserved a two bedroom/2 bath loft villa at Player's Club for 9/01 check-in date, which is Labor Day week, but now I am going to have to cancel. Will I get any decent trade power if I deposit it so late? The resort is dual-affiliated, and I'm in both RCI and II, so which exchange company would give me best/most trade power for a prime holiday beach week, deposited less than two months out? If not a deposit for exchange, does anyone have suggestions for me? TIA!

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Hi Carol,

I own two units at the Player's Club. 2 bed, 1ba mid May and 2 bed 2 ba that I reserve in July. In the past, I have received fantastic trades through RCI and once I deposited only two months out. This year I was able to trade my May 2 bd 1 bath for a 3 bedroom Waterside check-in Sept 30. I've gotten the Donatelo in San Francisco Xmas week, 2 Bdroom Myrtle Beach Oceanfront in Mid May, 3 Bdroom Royal Dunes in Oct. On the other hand, when I inquired about adding Players Club to my account in II, there were regional blocks and I got the feeling that II looked upon Player's Club as roach motel. If that was a wrong impression, someone please correct me.

That said, here are my suggestions.

1) Ask Players Club or its managing agent (VRI) if you can change your reservation and, if so, what is currently available and what the fee to change your reservation would be.

2) Since with II you have the option of searching before you deposit, why don't you try that and see what you come up with.

3) Ask VRI if they can rent it out for you and what their commission would be. If you go to the VRI website, you will see what they are asking for your unit during that timeframe.

4) Take a chance and deposit with RCI. I believe you have two years (I'm not sure) to complete the travel. If you are flexible I think you will find an acceptable trade. If someone snaps up your week, your trade power might not be sooo low. After all, it is in RCI's financial interest that you find a trade and pay the trading fee.

Good luck in whatever you do!!!

Barbara

Again...many, many excellent tips! I now am officially informed but still uncertain of the "best" course of action. It may come down to a flip of a coin...don't laugh, I do that sometime when I can't decide between two courses of action. Of course if I rent one of the weeks I have on HHI, it will all be a moot point because I will go the other week. :whoopie: I go to HHI every year late Aug or early Sept...which is probably why I managed to double-book myself. I'll let ya know the final chapter of my saga...stay tuned!

philemer said:

Too late to deposit with TPI. You have to deposit 75 days in advance unless it's a TPI managed resort, like IPV. There's a thread about this on Ask TPI. Clarrification: You can deposit a week under 75 days but it's a 'provisional' deposit & they won't give you credit for it UNLESS they can get someone to grab it. Too risky in my eyes. I'd try to rent it. You might get a $100 or $200 on ebay.

Phil

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I'd let a 2 br on HHI go empty before I'd let it be devalued that low in the rental marketplace. What do you think I am, RCI (Rental Condos, Inc)?

V

Don't be a stranger. e-mail me. Maybe I can pull some strings and help you with this. Don't wait too long.

L

lawren2 said:

V

Don't be a stranger. e-mail me. Maybe I can pull some strings and help you with this. Don't wait too long.

L

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I like how you call me "V"!

Carol C said:

I like how you call me "V"!

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Only you would realize that was NOT a typo.