How many walled cities have you visited?

[Carolinian]

How many walled cities, with the walls at least reasonably intact, have you visited.

My list would be:

York, England
Quebec, Canada
Talinn, Estonia
Valetta, Malta
Famagusta, Cyprus
Nicosia, Cyprus
Siegeshora, Romania
Brasov, Romania
Dubrovnik, Croatia
Split, Croatia
Rhodes, Greece
Arges Mortes, France
Carcasone, France

[grest]

Nice list, Carolinian...I've been to a few, Quebec included (many times), and somewhere in Germany and Wales, but I can't remember names...
Connie

[Laurie]

I'm not sure how many total nor which qualify as intact, but what I recall:

Best walls so far:
Carcassonne, France
Avila, Spain

Others:

France:
Sarlat
Avignon
Domme
Montpazier

Italy:
Volterra
San Gimignano
Arezzo
Lucca
Assisi
Orvieto
Civita de Bagnoregio
Pisa



Wales:
Tenby

Switzerland:
Gruyere

Croatia:
Dubrovnik
I'm sure I visited Split, Korcula and some other places tho it was too long ago and I have no memory of what was where!

Mallorca:
Alcudia

[Rose Pink]

Do Mont St. Michel, Eze, and St. Paul-de-Vence in France count?

[philemer]

Maybe the thread should be "walled and previously/partially walled" cities. Most aren't completely walled today are they?

I loved Rothenburg ob der Tauber in Germany. Seemed to still be completely walled.

Phil

[Bwolf]

Rothenburg is great. So is Carcassone, but in a different way. Ribeauville and Riquewihr are small and quaint. The walls are nice, the Cremant wonderful.

[Kola]

Originally Posted by Carolinian

How many walled cities, with the walls at least reasonably intact, have you visited.

My list would be:

York, England
Quebec, Canada
Talinn, Estonia
Valetta, Malta
Famagusta, Cyprus
Nicosia, Cyprus
Siegeshora, Romania
Brasov, Romania
Dubrovnik, Croatia
Split, Croatia
Rhodes, Greece
Arges Mortes, France
Carcasone, France

Looking at your list I am not sure how one would define a walled city. I have been to some cities on your list like York, Quebec, Dubrovnik, etc. and to a number of others. Now I wonder: would cities like Regensburg, Germany; Avignon, France; Krakow, Poland; Kyiv and Kamianez Podolski in Ukraine qualify ? or for that matter the remains of ancient Greek colonies in the Crimea ?, OK, why not Kremlin in Moscow ? Or how about the Great Wall of China ? Its not exactly a city as such but certainly an outstanding example of ancient fortifications. Don't forget about several medieval Japanese cities with very well preserved fortifications ! The list could go on and on if you include other countries in Asia that boast whatever remains of their ancient fortresses. Before adding new names IMO what we really need is some agreed definition of what qualifies and what not.

Kola

[Jimster]

I noticed Lucca, Italy is not on the list. This is an excellent example of a walled city. It is very wide and is now a jogging/bike path. I have also been to several others previously mentioned and most recently Brasov, Romania. I would have liked to have made it to Sigsahoara but time just did not permit.

[Mimi39]

Would the old city part of Jerusalem count?

[Laurie]

Originally Posted by Jimster

I noticed Lucca, Italy is not on the list. This is an excellent example of a walled city. It is very wide and is now a jogging/bike path.

It's on my list, see above!

IMO this thread isn't just about one list or "the" list, it's for folks to think about and remember places we've been to.

Probably we shouldn't worry about whether places we've visited "count" or "qualify" ... otherwise we won't have too many participants here.

[JLB]

Wall Lake
Little Wall Lake
Wall Drug

[MILOIOWA]

Originally Posted by JLB

Wall Lake
Little Wall Lake
Wall Drug

Me too!! Except haven't made it to the Black Hills yet.

[MILOIOWA]

Oh yeah, and heaven forbid, WalMart.

[CSB]

Quebec City, Canada
Jerusalem, Israel

[Rose Pink]

Originally Posted by MILOIOWA

Oh yeah, and heaven forbid, WalMart.

Sadly, this is a true statement. The super WalMarts are almost a walled city in and of themselves--and you have to pass the guard to get in and out (WalMart calls them "greeters"). You can get most anything there including eye exams and hearing exams. Some may even have medical clinics. And now they are talking about having their own bank. I haven't seen one that provided mortuary services yet--but then, those are usually outside the city walls. I guess WalMart has become the modern version of our fortified cities.

[Kola]

Originally Posted by Rose Pink

Sadly, this is a true statement......... And now they are talking about having their own bank. I haven't seen one that provided mortuary services yet--but then, those are usually outside the city walls. I guess WalMart has become the modern version of our fortified cities.

As a traveller I would be interested in discounted fares on WallAir, WallCruise, and a WallCarRental. When are these services coming ?

Kola

[johnmfaeth]

I was born in a formerly walled city...New York City. Wall Street has its name because in pre-revolutionary times, a barracade ran from the East to the Hudson River at Wall Street to prevent Indian attacks.

List of European walled cities to follow when I recover from this turkey overdose (the bird, not the country!)...

[johnmfaeth]

Since it sells 1% of the GDP of China (real stat), should WalMart legitimately count becuase of the Great Wall?

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by Laurie

It's on my list, see above!

Yes, but the antecedent to "that" was Carolinian's list.

[Larry]

San Giarmani Italy
Quebec City, Canada
Old City Jerusalem, Israel

[ricoba]

Originally Posted by JLB

Wall Lake
Little Wall Lake
Wall Drug

Well of those three, I've only been to Wall Drug.....does "Wall"-Mart count???

[LisaH]

Haven't been to any of the cities mentioned above, but I just got back from Vienna, Austria and I believe my guide told me that part of the old town was walled at some point and some walls still remains...

[Carolinian]

Originally Posted by Kola

Looking at your list I am not sure how one would define a walled city. I have been to some cities on your list like York, Quebec, Dubrovnik, etc. and to a number of others. Now I wonder: would cities like Regensburg, Germany; Avignon, France; Krakow, Poland; Kyiv and Kamianez Podolski in Ukraine qualify ? or for that matter the remains of ancient Greek colonies in the Crimea ?, OK, why not Kremlin in Moscow ? Or how about the Great Wall of China ? Its not exactly a city as such but certainly an outstanding example of ancient fortifications. Don't forget about several medieval Japanese cities with very well preserved fortifications ! The list could go on and on if you include other countries in Asia that boast whatever remains of their ancient fortresses. Before adding new names IMO what we really need is some agreed definition of what qualifies and what not.

Kola

The Kremlin is a fortress, not the entire city. If one were to count fortresses, Prague Castle would be in a similar situation. I enjoyed visiting both.

Very little of the walls of Kiev remain, so I did not include it on my list, although the remains of the one surviving gate in the old walls is worth seeing. The same is true of Krakow, thanks to the Austrians who ran the place in 1866 and demolished most of the medieval walls of the major cities of their empire in the succeeding years after they proved to be of no military value in the Austro-Prussian War of that year. The Austrians knocked down most of the walls of Krakow, Lviv, Vienna, Prague, and Budapest. I probably should have included Budapest through, because much of the walls of the Buda section of the city, now known as castle hill, are still intact inspite of what the Austrians did to the more extensive walls of the Pest section on the other side of the river. Small sections of wall survive in Lviv, Krakow and Prague but they are totally gone in Vienna.

I did forget Lucca and San Marino, Italy and Rothenburg on the Tauber, which I have also visited.

[Carolinian]

Originally Posted by LisaH

Haven't been to any of the cities mentioned above, but I just got back from Vienna, Austria and I believe my guide told me that part of the old town was walled at some point and some walls still remains...

The Ring in Vienna, now a continuing series of broad boulevards around the old city, is where the old medieval walls of Vienna were once located.

[Carolinian]

Originally Posted by Kola

As a traveller I would be interested in discounted fares on WallAir, WallCruise, and a WallCarRental. When are these services coming ?

Kola

If you were on this side of the pond, you could try EasyJet, EasyCruise, and EasyCar, which discount their services far more than I suspect Walmart would.