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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Lake Tapps, WA
Posts: 8,721
Resorts: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacations, Mountainside Lodge, Marriott Newport Coast |
FAQ of the Diamond Resorts
There are three kinds of ownerships at resorts managed by Diamond Resorts International (DRI)
(formerly Sunterra). -Be a “CLUB” member and use your points to reserve at any of the Diamond owned resorts and also the many Diamond affiliated resorts managed by Raintree and Vacation Internationale ( subject to significantly limited availability) . To be a club member, you must have purchased your ownership directly from the developer ( or obtained in a family transfer). Although it is possible to buy resale then "convert" the resale purchase by buying more pts/ weeks direct from Diamond and have all your resorts/points brought into the club. THE Club is just a membership to DRI own personal internal exchange program. -Own “Trust” Points. Resale owners of the “trust” are allowed to use their trust points to reserve time at any of the resorts in the resort collection of the trust which they own. But not at any other Diamond resorts. ( to use the trust pts at other diamond resorts, you must have purchased the trust points directly from Diamond-Sunterra) There are three different resort collections which have a "trust" - DRI U.S. Collection (previously known as the Florida Trust) - DRI Hawaii Collection - DRI California Collection ** see the bottom of post #3 for which resorts are in which collection (some are in more than one) -Own a deeded week at a resort managed by Diamond. Resale owners at any of the Diamond resorts own only at that single resort and can’t use points to go to other Diamond resorts. The following is the FAQ of the Diamond Resorts International (DRI) Quote:
a. The average "Red Season" points for a reservation varies by resort. But using about 6500 points for a 2BR should work most times. Q. Does my ownership in DRI come with a membership in II? a. All members of the "club" come with a DRI paid for membership in II. BUT if you buy resale, you must join and pay for your exchange company membership.
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Bill All my posts should be considered my personal opinion or experience unless otherwise noted. Last edited by Bill4728; May 26, 2009 at 12:56 PM. |
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TUG Lifetime Member
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Lake Tapps, WA
Posts: 8,721
Resorts: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacations, Mountainside Lodge, Marriott Newport Coast |
Here are the list of resort which may be reserved using Club points (please note that many of these resorts are affiliated resorts with extremely limited availablity)
Diamond Resorts International US Resorts Arizona London Bridge Resort Scottsdale Links Resort Scottsdale Villa Mirage Sedona Springs Resort Sedona Summit The Ridge on Sedona Golf Resort Villas at Poco Diablo Villas of Sedona California San Luis Bay Inn Marquis Villas Resort Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort Florida Daytona Beach Regency Coconut Mallory Resort and Marina Polynesian Isles Westgate at South Beach Coconut Palms Beach Ocean Beach Club Ocean Sands Beach Club Sea Villas Cypress Pointe Resort Grand Beach Hawaii The Point at Poipu Ka'anapali Beach Club Massachusetts Edgewater Beach Resort Beachside Village Resort Missouri The Suites at Fall Creek New Hampshire The Valley Inn at Waterville Valley Nevada Desert Paradise Resort Polo Towers Suites Polo Towers Villas The Ridge Pointe New Mexico Villas de Santa Fe South Carolina Island Links Resort Royal Dunes Ellington at Wachesaw Plantation Tennessee Bent Creek Golf Village Gatlinburg Town Square Gatlinburg Town Village Mountain Meadows Texas Villas on the Lake at Lake Conroe Virginia Greensprings Vacation Resort The Historic Powhatan Resort St. Maarten Flamingo Beach Resort Royal Palm Beach Resort Europe Resorts Austria Alpine Club France Le Club Mougins La Résidence Normande Le Manoir des Deux Amants Royal Regency Germany Alpen Club Schliersee Italy Palazzo Catalani Malta Diamond Suites on Malta Norway Gålå Fjellgrend Portugal Vilar do Golf Spain -Balearic Islands White Sands Beach Club White Sands Country Club Garden Lago Cala de Mar -Canary Islands Jardines Del Sol Cala Blanca Club del Carmen Royal Sunset Beach Club Sunset Bay Club Sunset Harbour Club Royal Tenerife Country Club Santa Barbara Golf and Ocean Club Sunset View Club -Costa Del Sol Royal Oasis Club at Benal Beach Royal Oasis Club at La Quinta Sahara Sunset Club Los Amigos Beach Club United Kingdom Anderton Marina Woodford Bridge Country Club Broome Park Golf and Country Club Pine Lake Resort Thurnham Hall Cromer Country Club The Kenmore Club Wychnor Park Country Club Diamond also has some availability at the following Vacation Internationale Resorts: Fairway Villa-Oahu Royal Kuhio-Oahu Hololani-Maui Valley Isle-Maui Papakea-Maui Kihei Kai Nani-Maui Kapaa Shores-Kauai Pono Kai-Kauai Sea Village-Hawaii Sea Mountain-Hawaii Oasis-Palm Springs CA Marina Inn-Oceanside CA Kingsbury-S. Lake Tahoe (Stateline NV) Elkhorn-Sun Valley ID Village at Steamboat-Steamboat Springs CO The Pines-Sunriver OR Embarcadero-Newport OR Point Brown-Ocean Shores WA Clock Tower-Whistler, BC Vallarta Torre-Puerto Vallarta Torres Mazatlan-Mazatlan Diamond also has some availability at the following RainTree Vacation Club Resorts: Whiski Jack Resorts (17 resort locations) Whistler BC The Sandcastle at Birch Bay WA Franz Klammer Lodge Telluride CO Teton Club Jackson Hole WY Park Plaza Park City UT The Miners Club Park City UT Cimarron Golf Resort Palm Springs CA Kona Reef Hawaii Grand Regina Los Cabos Club Regina Los Cabos Club Regina Puerto Vallarta Club Regina Cancun Casa San Felipe Hostal Oaxaca Hostal Las Cúpulas Oaxaca Villa Vera Puerto Mio - Zihuatanejo Villa Vera Puerto Isla Mujeres Villa Vera Acapulco
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Bill All my posts should be considered my personal opinion or experience unless otherwise noted. Last edited by Bill4728; March 4, 2008 at 05:16 PM. |
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TUG Lifetime Member
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Lake Tapps, WA
Posts: 8,721
Resorts: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacations, Mountainside Lodge, Marriott Newport Coast |
"THE CLUB" USA Membership Types
SUN - deeded ownership at a single resort CSV (& SV1 *) The US Collection Trust CSH (& SVH *) The Hawaii Collection Trust CS5 (& SV5 *) The California Collection Trust * - The memberships with a * are when you own the trust but didn't buy direct from DRI or obtained in a family transfer and therefore are not a member of the DRI "CLUB" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUN Deeded property May be used at Home Resort Only if not associated with a "CLUB" membership Home Resort Advantage is 12 months out for Home Resort Only Must wait until 10 months out to make reservations for any property except Home Resort Has usage of member benefits program Receives elite benefits if membership reaches appropriate points levels Receives a free II membership All Hawaii deeded property is grandfathered in at High Season Points reservations rates for their home resort Poipu deeded owners with a unit type of 2S may book Ocean Front weeks at 10,000 Points based on availability CSV, CSH & CS5 Trust property purchased from a DRI sales site or obtained in a family transfer Cannot be used outside of a membership. Home Resort Advantage is 13 months out for all properties in The Collection you purchased Must wait until 10 months out to make reservations for any property except those your collection Has usage of member benefits program Receives elite benefits if membership reaches appropriate Points level Receives a free II membership SV1, SVH & SV5 The Collection of resorts purchased from a individual or company outside of DRI ( resale) Cannot be used outside of a (regional) Club Membership Usage is limited to the properties in your Collection Home Resort Advantage is 13 months out for all properties in your Collection Does not have usage of member benefits Does not receive elite benefits even if their points reach elite award levels Does not receive an II membership. Quote:
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Bill All my posts should be considered my personal opinion or experience unless otherwise noted. Last edited by Bill4728; March 16, 2010 at 10:13 AM. Reason: Updated resorts in the trusts. |
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BBS Reg. Date: Apr 6, 07
Location: New York
Posts: 188
Resorts: Diamond Resorts "The Club", Sheraton Myrtle Beach, Spinnaker Resorts HH, Turtle Cay, Grand Beach, Barrier Island Sta Duc |
The avg Red Season points for a reservation varies by resort. We use 6500 points for a 2BR for our planning purposes. That's also the usual number II charges for a 2BR prime week reservation as well.
Note that RED season is really an RCI term which doesn't always mean Platinum high demand weeks like Summer - 26 to 33 on the shore. I'm talking 6500 points for the top of the food chain! |
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TUG Lifetime Member
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Lake Tapps, WA
Posts: 8,721
Resorts: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacations, Mountainside Lodge, Marriott Newport Coast |
As of Jan 2009, DRI has a new point requirements for trades with II:
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Bill All my posts should be considered my personal opinion or experience unless otherwise noted. Last edited by Bill4728; March 16, 2010 at 10:14 AM. Reason: new DRI & II point requirements. |
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BBS Reg. Date: Sep 3, 08
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 688
Resorts: Marriott Ko Olina; DRI Gold Elite |
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Just a little something I noticed. At one time this may have been correct, but not now.
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 10,272
Resorts: DRI, Marriott Grand Chateau & Ocean Pointe, Grand Lodge on Peak 7, French Quarter, Grand Regency |
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While DRI has been increasing the quality of their resorts, it appears that I.I. has decreased the value of DRI points within the I.I. system. Starting in 2009 (this thread was started in Feb 2008), it can take up to 12,000 points for a 4 bedroom premier resort in peak season. Previously I believe that same exchange, if you could even get it, would have been only 6,500 point. Conversly, if you wanted to travel during low season and only required a studio unit in a premium resort during low season, you would only need 2,500 points. I suppose one could look at the new points schedule as a way for DRI owners to be able to pay for exchanges they might not have been able to get previously by using more points. Or, you could look at it as taking 7,500 points to get a high season week at a premium resort where before they were reasonably easy to get for 6,500 points. This is the danger of playing in a points based system where the rules can be changed by either the managing company or the exchange company. Of course, even in a weeks based exchange system, the rules can change. You just might not see it on the surface. At least with points any changes are transparent. As an example consider Las Vegas 10 years ago as compared to today. 10 years ago, the only two I.I. resorts on the strip were Polo Towers (only 2 of 3 towers completed), Jockey Club and Carriage House. Today you can toss in Marriott's Grand Chateau (only 2 of 4 towers completed) and, very soon, Westgate's Planet Hollywood Towers (only 1 of 2 HUGE towers near completion). While I can see it with my own eye's, I'd almost bet you that the exchange power of PT, JC and CH have all diminished and will continue to diminish as supply more than triples over the next few years. With DRI's points based system, I can already see the devaluation of points in the I.I. system if I want a high or peak season week at a premium resort. Points requirements now vary between 1,500 for an economy low season studio unit to 12,000 for a peak season premium resort. If you're wanting to exchange through I.I. and not internally with DRI, you can use their chart to determine what works for you. Generally speaking most people will probably require high season and want premium resorts. That figure today is 7,500 points for a 2 bedroom unit, 5,500 points for a 1 bedroom unit and 4,000 points for a studio unit. Of course, as you've seen, points totals can change, both up and down. What's true today won't be true 10 years from now. But that's true whether you're in a points based exchange system or a weeks based exchange system. Everything I've written is based on exchanges with I.I. Internal exchanges within the DRI system are a different matter. Then it would depend on the quality of unit you want (deluxe or standard) and what resorts you see yourself vacationing in the most. If you want to go to Hawaii most of the time, you'll need enough points within the sytem for the resorts you want to visit most frequently in the season you want to visit. In any year you decide not to use all of your points, you have options for the disposition of unused points. That would include saving them to the next year, using them for FF miles, car rentals, MF fee payment, club dues payments, cruise discounts et..... The system itself is very flexible and user friendly. While I haven't always been positive about every aspect of DRI (I'm not positive about every aspect of any timeshare I own), there are good things about the system that I enjoy.
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Timeshare Photo's http://dougp26364.smugmug.com/ Next up: Breckenridge CO, Las Vegas NV, Palm Beach Shores FL, Singer Island FL Last edited by dougp26364; March 22, 2009 at 07:57 PM. Reason: spelling, grammer |
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BBS Reg. Date: May 21, 09
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As referenced in the first post:
"Is my membership transferable? THE ClubSM membership may be transferred by will, but may not be sold." So, wait -- you can sell the timeshare but not the Club membership? So, then, what does the buyer actually receive? |
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 10,272
Resorts: DRI, Marriott Grand Chateau & Ocean Pointe, Grand Lodge on Peak 7, French Quarter, Grand Regency |
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If this is a Trust based ownership, then the buyer has the trust based intrest in all the resorts (19) associated with that trust but, does not have internal points based exchange access to all the resorts (> 100) associated with THE Club. The only thing that the membership is, is a membership to DRI's internal exchange program to all resorts included in THE Club. It's nothing more, nothing less. It's just a membership to their own personal internal exchange program.
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 11, 09
Location: CA
Posts: 6
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[Deleted duplicate. - DeniseM Moderator]
Last edited by DeniseM; June 11, 2009 at 11:14 PM. |
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BBS Reg. Date: Sep 18, 09
Location: Canada
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Clean up thread
Last edited by Bill4728; October 4, 2012 at 01:58 PM. Reason: Clean up thread |
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 29, 07
Location: So Cal
Posts: 60
Resorts: Wyndham 818,000 Ocean Walk Marriott mult resort SVO mult resorts RCI Pts at Vacation Village Weston Hyatt Pts |
Clean up thread
Last edited by Bill4728; October 4, 2012 at 01:58 PM. Reason: Clean up thread |
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BBS Reg. Date: Oct 14, 07
Posts: 222
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How does one go about transferring a DRI club membership to another family member?
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 10, 05
Posts: 2,468
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Deeded properties can be transferred to anyone but without the Club membership. |
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 29, 07
Location: So Cal
Posts: 60
Resorts: Wyndham 818,000 Ocean Walk Marriott mult resort SVO mult resorts RCI Pts at Vacation Village Weston Hyatt Pts |
More correctly, any DRI Contract (not merely the deeded contracts) can be sold to anyone you wish. But when you do, if your contract happens to participate in The Club, The Club membership will not transfer to the new owner. As already stated there are a limited number of ways The Club membership will transfer but for the most part it won't.
To clarify, selling one of the DRI Collections contracts transfers the right to use the resorts listed in the Collections Contracts but membership in The Club will not transfer with them. So if you sell the US Collections contract the new owner will be able to use the 21-24 resorts in the US Collections. If they do a deal with DRI to get the resale contract back into the Club (I think nowadays you have to buy 2,000-4,000 points direct from DRI in order to get one resale contract back into The Club) then it will allos you to use your points at all resorts! |
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BBS Reg. Date: Jul 25, 11
Location: Williamsburg, VA
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Prepayment and borrowing policy?
I tried to book a 2012 reservation using my 2012 points today and it says "When booking a reservation for the following year or borrowing points from the following year, a deposit must be paid prior to the booking being confirmed...." Is this new????? I booked a 2012 reservation earlier this morning and now I was booking another and it will not let me unless I pay. Any ideas?
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Sep 3, 08
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 688
Resorts: Marriott Ko Olina; DRI Gold Elite |
Equal Time in Reservations
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BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Lake Tapps, WA
Posts: 8,721
Resorts: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacations, Mountainside Lodge, Marriott Newport Coast |
DRI in Fall of 2011 bought out the Monarch Grand Vacation club (MGV) and will manage both MGV (the point based multiple resort system) and the deeded stand alone resorts.
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BBS Reg. Date: Oct 17, 10
Location: Coronado, California
Posts: 7
Resorts: Own week 26 Coronado Beach Resort. week 52 Carlsbad Inn (since 1987) Diamond Points owner- use Sedona and Las Vegas us |
This is very helpful summary- thank you-- Jan
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