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question for experts..points strategy

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Hi
I have 1980 points left for 2008 and have so far used 2200 of my 4800 points for 2009. I can't really say we'd use the remaining 2008 points. We've booked travel thru June next year, and may use the remaining 2009 points in the fall or over xmas 2009, but at this point, have nothing more we're considering. My partner has 80,000 HHonors points.

We are thinking about using the HHonors points to stay in Europe next summer, where we would need 70,000.

Although the HGVC points conversion is 20:1 instead of 25:1, it would save us about $800-900 in hotel costs, which is more than the annual maintenance fee!, so it's worth it to me to use HGVC points or HHonors.

Should we convert my HGVC points or the points that are already HHonors? I'm wondering both in terms of fees and also use of the remaining points and would there be too little left to be useable. I was also thinking that since HGVC is stronger in the US and hard to get rooms thru RCI in europe, we should use HGVC points for domestic travel, and thus use the points that are already HHonors for the europe trip next June 2009.

What would you do?
(I'm actually in the process of booking HHV next april, and could rescue my 2008 points for that and leave the 2009 points untouched for now. Would that be better? Because if so, I want to do it while plenty of rooms are available right now.) I 've already paid the $49 fee to use the 2009 points for the Apr 2009 HHV rez. If I rescue the 2008 points, can I use them for that rez without paying any extra fees (other than the rescue fee)? (ie without another booking fee)


I don't want to rescue them, and then find out it would have been better to just use them for the HHonors reservation.
Thanks.
 
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What would you do?
(I'm actually in the process of booking HHV next april, and could rescue my 2008 points for that and leave the 2009 points untouched for now. Would that be better? Because if so, I want to do it while plenty of rooms are available right now.) I 've already paid the $49 fee to use the 2009 points for the Apr 2009 HHV rez. If I rescue the 2008 points, can I use them for that rez without paying any extra fees (other than the rescue fee)? (ie without another booking fee)
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That sounds like a good idea.
 
Why don't you use 2008 HGVC points to book the June Europe HOtel... You don't have to pay extra to put 2008 points as rescue and also pay to rebook your Hawaii trip.
 
Do not convert or use HHonors points, except as a last resont. Find a way to use your points for their original intended purpose, i.e. booking stays at HGVC resorts, even if you do a rescue. That t is a far better value than converting or using them for some other purpose.
 
I called HGVC about using the 2008 points for the HHV trip. I've already booked nights using 1/2 of the points I will use. I could pay the rescue fee and use the rescued points for the remaining points I need witihout paying another booking fee-- that would still leave me about 900 2008 rescued points to use in 2009.

I was hoping there would be consensus on the 'right' thing to do
 
Is it correct that you have made reservations already using 2400 of your 2009points? If so, then I would call HGVC and have these reservations changed - let them use all your 2008 points first. You will have to pay that rescue fee but at least you are sure that all your points will be used. Of course, if you are planning to reserve another stay using 2008 points it would not make a difference, but if you are not so sure about that, you will at least know that your 2008 points have been used.

When you rescue points, you can only use them for club reservations. You can still decide if you would want to use 2009 points for hotel stays.

If you would save that much money by using them for a hotel stay, I would certainly consider that too.
 
sml2181 said:
Is it correct that you have made reservations already using 2400 of your 2009points? If so, then I would call HGVC and have these reservations changed - let them use all your 2008 points first. You will have to pay that rescue fee but at least you are sure that all your points will be used. Of course, if you are planning to reserve another stay using 2008 points it would not make a difference, but if you are not so sure about that, you will at least know that your 2008 points have been used.

When you rescue points, you can only use them for club reservations. You can still decide if you would want to use 2009 points for hotel stays.

If you would save that much money by using them for a hotel stay, I would certainly consider that too.
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no, I need 2200 for a Kalia studio next April and so far have used 1100 of my 4800 2009 points (I am adding a night to my rez daily, as the booking window extends). i HAVE 1980 2008 points.
According to HGVC, if I rescue the points today, the remaing 1100 points I need will get pulled from teh rescued points. This will leave me with about 900 2008 points and the $69 rescue fee. Then we would use 70000 of the 80000 HHonors points we have.


or I can make the hotel rez using 70000 HHonors points which would come from my 1980 2008 points and abut 1400 2009 points

As I said the hotel for 2 nights would be about $825+taxes
 
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Do not Convert HGVC to HHonors at this time

Talent312 said:
Do not convert or use HHonors points, except as a last resont. Find a way to use your points for their original intended purpose, i.e. booking stays at HGVC resorts, even if you do a rescue. That t is a far better value than converting or using them for some other purpose.
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I strongly agree with the advice given above. The best way to use HHonors points is Going Global. You can stay in a category 6 Hilton for 6 nights for 175,000 HHonors points. You can stay in a category 5 Hilton for 6 nights for 150,000 HHonors points.

You can only do same year conversions if you have Hilton Elite Plus status or Hilton Elite Premium status. Hilton trades very well with RCI in Europe, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean, Europe, Asia, and Australia. I think your best option is to either put in an RCI search or deposit your 2008 HGVC points into RCI.
 
Sorry for being slow - I am in pre-vacation mode.

If these 1100 points from 2009 were used for that same studio reservation at HHV, the HGVC rep can change that reservation, using 2008 points instead of the 2009 points. (Actually it does not matter if these points were used for that HHV reservation or for another reservation) You would need to rescue all your 2008 points, and then the points you still need (for the added night), will also be 2008 points, instead of 2009 points.
The only difference is that for that rescue fee, you are now sure that all your left over 2008 points were used. You would be using all your 1980
points from 2008 plus 220 2009 points. You would still have 4580 points for 2009.

You could still decide whether to use the available 80K HH points, or a part of your 2009 points to convert to HH. (Personally I would use the 80K points) especially if you have to pay for the HGVC/HH conversion. (Sorry I know I don't have to pay for that conversion, but I am not sure if that is an elite benefit.) Unless you really don't plan to use your 2009 points of course - then it would not really matter in my opinion and you could just as well convert your 2008 points to HH. Besides, I don't think it is such a bad idea at all, but I use a lot of my HGVC points for hotels. But I also know that many people would probably disagree. (Would you mind sharing which hotel?)
 
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sml2181 said:
Sorry for being slow - I am in pre-vacation mode.

If these 1100 points from 2009 were used for that same studio reservation at HHV, the HGVC rep can change that reservation, using 2008 points instead of the 2009 points.

(Would you mind sharing which hotel?)
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I was told I couldn't change the existing rez to use 2008 points for the nights I already reserved. I was told I could either rescue adn use those for the remaining nights or cancel and rebook from start, paying another $49 fee (plus the $69 rescue fee)

The hotel is the Hilton Athens. we're looking at June 2009, using miles for the airfare. 2 nights there and 3 or 4 in Istanbul.

Appreciate everyone's help. When the DH gets home we'll talk about it, but I'm going to suggest we rescue, try to get as many of them onto the HHV 4/2009 rez and use the HH points for the hotel

Thanks!!:cheer:
 
Hi

This is what I did:
Yesterday evening, I rescued the 1980 2008 points with a rep for $69. She cancelled and rebooked my Apr 2009 HHV rez so it only uses 2008 points so far. No fee for that, still changable. I added another night to the stay, overnight. So when I finish my rez, I will have used all my 2008 points, and about 200-300 of the 2009 points. I called late in the evening, and it went to their Hawaii call center. Very nice and knowledgable folks there.

We will book the hotel stay using HHonors points over the weekend.

Thanks everyone, for the advice.:)
 
Glad it worked out. Now that you mention it, every time I call I seem to get the Hawaii call center as well. Very friendly indeed.
 
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