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Ready to Foreclose

ijohns

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Hello,

I am now at my wits end with my timeshare. I am not able to sell, I have a balance, I do not use it and I can no longer afford to pay on it. If anyone has any suggestions, they are welcome. We own at a florida timeshare with 3 weeks banked with RCI. My only alternative I can come up with is to have them foreclose, help!
 
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You'll get the warnings from TUGgers about how you'll ruin your credit if you foreclose, but with 1 of 9 homes (worth much more money than any timeshare) in foreclosure, I don't think a timeshare foreclosure on your credit record is going to ruin your life. These are different and very difficult times, and people in the general public who think timeshare is a ripoff might not look at that blemish on your credit report and equate it with a big sin. Then again...what the bleep do I know? :shrug:
 
Carol, according to our attorney, a foreclosure on a timeshare is just as bad on your credit as a foreclosure on your home. It is a deeded property, so it is real estate that had to be taken back for non-payment.

I would hate to have it on my credit for 7 years.

ijohns, do you not travel?
 
can you transfer the balance owed to a low interest credit card using a convenience check perhaps?

then at least it may be possible to sell it!
 
At one time we did travel but this past year has put a wrench in that and putting it on a credit card is not an option. We owe about $9000 and would even consider allowing someone we trust to take over the payments until it's paid off but no one we know can afford it and our attempts to sell our weeks have been unsuccessful.
 
you should be able to rent out your week 30 -- have you tried that? I know that's not a long term solution -- but at least you're not stuck with a crappy week that won't even rent.

I'm sorry you're in a bad situation. I wouldn't allow them to foreclose on you though.

Debi
 
I have tried to rent, maybe I need to try a little harder.
 
just a quick glance at the marketplace shows your resort weeks renting for listed prices of between 700 and 1000.

granted none of them were exactly week 30, but within 2 to 3 weeks of that.
 
I'll try posting it there. Only problem is my weeks are banked with RCI so I have nothing with [the resort].
 
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ijohns - if your weeks have been deposited, you cannot rent them - RCI doesn't allow it and the penalties for getting caught are pretty stiff.

My suggestion is that you reserve a prime week for 2010 and start advertising it now.

Have your economic conditions changed since you first purchased, or have you just decided that timesharing isn't for you?
 
I have tried selling those weeks using the guest pass at a location the recipient chooses.
 
RCI does not allow you to rent weeks that you have deposited using a guest pass or any other way...

Guest passes are used to allow friends and family to use your exchange as your guest.

Penalties for getting caught include having your acct. closed, losing your deposit, and losing the exchange week that you rented out.
 
I did not know that. I thought the guest pass was for anyone to go in your place. Thanks for the clarification.
 
I guess I'm basically stuck with my timeshare since all of my weeks are deposited.:bawl:
 
Have your economic conditions changed since you first purchased, or have you just decided that timesharing isn't for you?

What were your travel goals when you bought this timeshare?

What do you mean by "all of your weeks deposited"? Is 2010 deposited?
 
Our economic condition has changed and with struggling to meet our financial obligations our primary residence takes precedence over the timeshare. Upon our initial purchase we planned to travel each year and since we have only used it once. The maintenance fees have increased each year which does not help the situation. No, 2010 is not yet deposited but is not yet available to us.
 
It sounds like you are in a tough position. I wish we had the solution, but if you financed the purchase and you are making payments, it will be impossible to sell, because resales go for a fraction of the developer cost. Even if you sell the timeshare, you will still be responsible for the loan against it. You might want to consult an attorney. Good luck!
 
like everything, credit is all relative....

looking at letting the timeshare foreclose and it goes on your credit report for seven years, will it really affect you?

1. You already own a home, so you most likely won't be shopping for a mortgage during that time.

2. Although a foreclosure or even a bankruptcy stay on your credit report for 7 years, the real negative affect for loans, etc usually wanes by the 3rd year.

3. Also, your credit only matters right now if you wanted a mortgage, a new credit card, or a car in the next 12 months. Once that foreclosure is on your credit report for about a year, a car loan is possible, although expect some crappy terms.

Considering all of this, if the timeshare foreclosure will allow you to stay in your current home, I think its a no-brainer. I am not an attorney, but I have experience with some credit situations, as always, be sure to consult an attorney, etc. :)
 
It's a long sho0t but, the people who carry these notes are feeling the pinch as well. Have you tried calling whomever it is that carries you loan to see if you can rework the payment plan on this timeshare? They may already have options in place for people in risk of defaulting or filing bankruptcy. They don't want to foreclose on you timeshare anymore than you want the ding on your credit record. Like I said, it's a long shot but I'd at least call to see what they say. The worst that could happen is they tell you there is nothing they can do. At best, maybe there is a plan in place that can get you a little releif.
 
We've even asked them about taking it back and they don't even do that anymore. We have been unsuccessful in getting the terms adjusted on our loan.
 
like everything, credit is all relative....

looking at letting the timeshare foreclose and it goes on your credit report for seven years, will it really affect you?

1. You already own a home, so you most likely won't be shopping for a mortgage during that time.

In uncertain economic times, it's hard to tell if you'll be out of work and have to relocate. That could mean unexpectedly having to find a new home. Even if you rent, they'll look at your credit record to determine the likelyhood you'll be able to meet your obligations.

2. Although a foreclosure or even a bankruptcy stay on your credit report for 7 years, the real negative affect for loans, etc usually wanes by the 3rd year.
When my ex-wife defaulted on the car and the house, forcing me into bankruptcy, I found this statement to be anything BUT true. That ding on my credit adversly affect me ability to get decent loan rates long after that magical 7th year when it dropped off my credit record. There's a lot more that goes into your credit score than just that bankruptcy or foreclosure. This, IMO, is a very bad myth. I suppose some people who don't have need for credit won't notice it much but I certainly did.

3. Also, your credit only matters right now if you wanted a mortgage, a new credit card, or a car in the next 12 months. Once that foreclosure is on your credit report for about a year, a car loan is possible, although expect some crappy terms.

This is so unrealistic I don't know where to begin. Your credit score can affect things like you ability to get a cell phone contract, how much you pay for liablity insurance and the rate you pay on your credit cards. A bad credit rating affects many more aspects of you life and, that foreclosure affects you ability as to what sort of terms you'll get on ANY credit you might need to ask for.

Crappy terms? You bet they're crappy terms. I have a son who has no foreclosures on his record but, he has an issue making payments on time. He doesn't have a lot of credit and pays cash for most purchases. Even without a forclosure or bankruptcy on his record, the best he could do on a car loan was 26% interest.

The best part, bad credit stays around a LOT longer than most people think or realize. 1 year is wishful thinking. I wasn't able to buy a car without a huge downpayment or a co-signer for close to 10 years after going bankrupt. At 5 years post bankruptcy I thought about getting a cell phone. All it would have taken was a $500 deposit! The first car I purchased after sinking my credit rating was with my mother co-signing and was at 18% interest. The next car wasn't a lot better but, it was closer to 10%. It was well over 10 years before I was able to purchase a car and get those favorable terms you see advertised all the time. I hate to think how much money that cost me over the years and, it lasted a LOT longer than just a 2,3 or 4 years.

All that advice I got about what it wouldn't do before things went bad was from people who either didn't need credit, didn't care or hadn't been through a foreclosure or bankrutcy. It was ALL bad advice. I'd have been better off looking for alternatives that would have dinged, but not sunk, my credit rating. A bad debt of any kind will have a very adverse affect on your credit rating, you ability to get credit and your ability to get any sort of contract for the next several years. Sure you'll be able to get a little something somewhere down the line but, the lingering affects last much longer than popular myths will lead you to believe.



Considering all of this, if the timeshare foreclosure will allow you to stay in your current home, I think its a no-brainer. I am not an attorney, but I have experience with some credit situations, as always, be sure to consult an attorney, etc. :)

This is one thing I can agree upon. I'd let the timeshare go long before I let my home go. Sometimes it's a matter of picking the poison that's least toxic. But, for people to say a foreclosure of bankruptcy won't matter much, won't hurt much or will go away sooner than a several years, well, they're living in a fantasy world or just don't understand how many different ways a bad credit score can affect and alter your life.

I don't know where people get it in their heads that a bad credit record only affects you for a couple of years or, only affects you if you want to buy a big ticket item but, it's really a bad idea. :rolleyes:
 
everyone's credit is different, and there are a ton of variables.

Basically, I was trying to point out that if you have to chose between foreclosure on the timeshare or foreclosure on the house, dump the timeshare, since you can't obviously live there 365 days a year.

As for what I posted, thats been my personal experience, but as with most things, your results may vary.

I am sure a $9,000 foreclosure is easier for a creditor to swallow than a $200,000 one.

As I stated as well, consult an attorney, only he/she will know how to best handle your situation for you based on all of your details.
 
We've even asked them about taking it back and they don't even do that anymore. We have been unsuccessful in getting the terms adjusted on our loan.
Does the developer or a third party hold the loan? The ironic thing is if the developer holds the loan, he will forclose and get the property back anyway.
 
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