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Rate the WKV Pool Chair Turf Claimers’ Work!

nodge

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Hi Gang,

We just returned from another great spring break week at the Westin Kierland Villas in Scottsdale. It’s hard to have a bad time when the view outside your villa is this:

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One annoying thing we did notice this time over our visit there last year was the absolute abuse of all discretion by pool chair turf claimers. I asked two separate pool area employees wassup with that, and as expected I got two different answers. One employee said that the policy is that people can claim as many chairs as they want for as long as they want. Another pool area employee told me that items left unattended for more than an hour are removed so the chairs can be used by other guests. I tend to believe the first employee, because most the following prime, pool-front turf claimed chairs in the following pictures remained unused and untouched during our 4 hour stay in the WKV pool area last week. (These photos were all taken on the same day during my quick walk-around the pool area, and I’ve limited the photos to just the nine limit imposed by TUG. I cropped out people since I know I wouldn’t like it if someone took a picture of me in a bathing suit and posted it on the web. The pool area was really much more crowded than how things appear in these pix).

Since pool chair turf claiming is apparently A-OK with the WKV management, I guess we should make lemonade out of this lemon and have a little fun with it. How about we rate these turf claimers’ “works” in the following categories: 1) creativity, 2) use of materials that look valuable but are really cheap enough that the “artist” doesn’t really care if they are removed; and, 2) genuine attempt to appear occupied.

Artist No. 1:
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Artist No. 2:
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Artist No. 3:
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Artist No. 4:
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Artist No. 5:
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Artist No. 6:
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Artist No. 7:
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Artist No. 8:
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Artist No. 9: (My personal favorite . . an old tennis ball!)
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Oh Yeah, most of the pool front chairs are claimed by 8:15 AM, when the staff puts the white towels down, so remember to pack an old flip-flop or tennis ball on your next trip to WKV and be there by 8:15 AM, for the best turf claiming selection. (PS. I have pictures of the lady that put down the tennis ball and then returned 3 hours later if anyone wants to see a real live turf claim artist in action. Of all the turf claimers, she almost deserves to have her picture posted here . . . ..).

Sheesh

-nodge
 
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Not to minimize the problem, but.........

all those pictures are of hogging at the "relaxation" (adults only) pool.

I was at WKV earlier this month. The best spots (there are only about 20) at the relaxation pool were always gobbled up. However, the spots at the other (kid-friendly) pool were pretty available.

And, both pools at the hotel were virtually devoid of sun worshipers because the hotel is really hurting. Plus, the food at the hotel pools is a little better, IMO. I'd suggest using the WKV shuttle to get to the hotel pools and lazy river - sort of like going from the Harborside pool to the pools at Atlantis.

But, the hogging at WKV is boorish. :) ... eom
 
Not to minimize the problem, but.........

all those pictures are of hogging at the "relaxation" (adults only) pool.

Nope. The green and white (Go State!) towels and all but one of these pix are along the front row of the family friendly pool.

Here are Artist No. 8's and Artist No. 9's (The Tennis Ball Lady's) Works viewed from a different angle:

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These spots are primo because you can watch your kids in the pool from them. Other, less desirable, spots are too far away to watch your kids, who may even inadvertently wander over to the adult pool and hot tub (no access key required . . . does WKV's liability insurer know about this?) without a parent's watchful eye on them where they could even annoy the peace loving people over there. See it's all connected.

I agree that crowds were way, way down over at the hotel pools. We regularly had to put our stuff on the ground near the lazy river last year without ever finding a chair. This year, there were plenty of "water front" chairs to go around. (I did notice that upon entry to the hotel pool area an employee checked names against a guest roster this year. Last year we could go through an easy to reach-around gate at the hotel pools, so maybe that is a factor too.)

-nodge
 
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I am not so sure it is A-OK with WKV management since pool-boys do not necessarily represent managment position (and may not want to hassle enforcement when getting min wage). As WKV Owners we have every right to notify WKV and complain and ask for enforment - sending this link with stories and photos may be a good start - you may get enforcment (for a while).

I dislike chair hogs - as well as parents who allow kids to invade the adult pool and hot tubs...
...and smoking...
...and ABBA... :hysterical:
 
Had the same issue @ WKORV last week; for the first few days it was ok for people to run down @ 7ish to place towels, claim their lounges, go back to bed and come back around 11AM. Then Wednesday security swooped in and started scooping all items (towels & tennis balls) off unoccupied chairs. Well, you can imagine the uproar this caused. Beside us a guy completely unloaded on the security dude, dropping f-bombs etc. In that case I guess boorish behavior paid off as the f-bomber was rewarded with a lounge on the beach for free. The security guy came by after and said they were getting so many complaints about squatters they had to do something and pointed out on the towel card where it states something about leaving your chair unattended for 1hr puts you at risk for removal of your stuff.

BTW my son didn’t INVADE the hot tub, MY kid would never do THAT, I’m sure he was enticed by someone to break the law and annoy the Sr. Citizens who were in at the time.;)
 
Chair hoggers make me long for the days of pillories.

I have no problems moving objects to another chair if the owner hasn't come by after an hour.
 
I love this post with all the photos and totally agree. While I can appreciate reserving a bench with belongings for a brief time like running back to the room for sunscreen or bathroom, this is precisely what the paid cabanas are for at most resorts. Pay $150-250 and reserves your spot all day.
 
Had the same issue @ WKORV last week; for the first few days it was ok for people to run down @ 7ish to place towels, claim their lounges, go back to bed and come back around 11AM. Then Wednesday security swooped in and started scooping all items (towels & tennis balls) off unoccupied chairs. Well, you can imagine the uproar this caused. Beside us a guy completely unloaded on the security dude, dropping f-bombs etc. In that case I guess boorish behavior paid off as the f-bomber was rewarded with a lounge on the beach for free. The security guy came by after and said they were getting so many complaints about squatters they had to do something and pointed out on the towel card where it states something about leaving your chair unattended for 1hr puts you at risk for removal of your stuff.

BTW my son didn’t INVADE the hot tub, MY kid would never do THAT, I’m sure he was enticed by someone to break the law and annoy the Sr. Citizens who were in at the time.;)

That is when it is nice to have an off duty police officer as a friend who might say... "While I can understand your concern for your belongings, this is a family resort and I do not appreciate your language with children around. If you don't calm down I will have to remove you". ;) Would have been nice to see security sackup and offer the same advice to this fellow. I hate people who think they can get their way by simply throwing a temper tantrum. Like a child, you should not reward this type of behavior with a free lounger. Oh well... there will always be all types.
 
Great thread!

Last year at Atlantis, the chair hogging was ridiculous! We are early risers and were over at the pools 30 minutes prior to 10am, the official opening. So we rarely had a problem, since we were usually first to arrive in our area. But we were amazed by the number of "peopleless" reserved chairs around us.

On our trip to WKORV last fall, there was less of the chair hogging, then what we had expected. In fact, we were able to get chairs with an umbrella at noon.
 
I think one solution to this problem at ALL resorts is to make sure there is a sufficient amount of umbrellas/shade to go around. Then there would not be such a panic.

For those of us who have a predisposition to skin cancer (which realistically means everyone), having protection from the sun is essential and can make the difference between a relaxing vacation or the nagging knowledge that there is a potential consequence of having things to be cut out and biopsied for years to come. This is a health issue and I don't think it's something we should have to pay an extra $150 a day for.

Our solution is to either bring our own or buy umbrellas for the beach but I guess that wouldn't work in AZ.
 
I think one solution to this problem at ALL resorts is to make sure there is a sufficient amount of umbrellas/shade to go around. Then there would not be such a panic.

For those of us who have a predisposition to skin cancer (which realistically means everyone), having protection from the sun is essential and can make the difference between a relaxing vacation or the nagging knowledge that there is a potential consequence of having things to be cut out and biopsied for years to come. This is a health issue and I don't think it's something we should have to pay an extra $150 a day for.

Our solution is to either bring our own or buy umbrellas for the beach but I guess that wouldn't work in AZ.

I agree that there SHOULD be enough for everyone. And I think that the point everyone is making is that there Would be (at least less congestion) if it were not for the chair hogs. In regards to the cabana rentals...well that is a personal choice not to everyones liking. However, when I was at the St. Regis in Dana Point Last summer the family was coming and going throughout the day and it was nice to rent the cabana for the day. It came with a cabana butler and you didn't have to worry about your stuf getting stolen or somebody taking over your spot should you want to do something else for a bit. As far as skin cancer... I think that is the individuals responsibility to prevent. Losts of Suncreen, UV glasses and perhaps a UV shirt or rashgaurd. I make my daughter wear this over her swimsuit and admittedly she looks like a japanese tourist with the big sun visor and parisol at times but she will have healthy skin when she gets older. I'll probably make her wear a snow suit when she becomes a teen ;)
 
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People actually stole the grills? Man that is scandalous.

They didn't exactly steal them. They moved them to their personal patios! I guess they didn't want to be inconvenienced by having to walk 200 feet to the grill area. And it was dark so we didn't see them til the next day.

We stole them back the next day and returned them to the common area. People are so nervy.
 
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