If my use year is 2010, is October 1, 2009 the earliest I can convert half of my Westin two bedroom unit to Starpoints? Have not done this conversion for many years. I looked in the FAQs but didn't find this information.
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Converting into StarPoints
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Taken from https://www.mystarcentral.com/reference/userguide/starpoints/sp_ex2.html
You may convert your ownership week to Starpoints during the SPG Conversion Window and receive your Starpoints within approximately 72 hours of the transaction. The SPG Conversion Window extends from: October 1 (prior to the Use Year being converted) through March 31 (of the actual Use Year being converted). If you request to convert your week prior to the SPG Conversion Window, your Starpoints will not be credited to your Starwood Preferred Guest account until October 1.
I think this answers your question.
You may convert your ownership week to Starpoints during the SPG Conversion Window and receive your Starpoints within approximately 72 hours of the transaction. The SPG Conversion Window extends from: October 1 (prior to the Use Year being converted) through March 31 (of the actual Use Year being converted). If you request to convert your week prior to the SPG Conversion Window, your Starpoints will not be credited to your Starwood Preferred Guest account until October 1.
I think this answers your question.
maui-ed: Thank you -- I ended up calling Starwood and found exactly what you said. One more thing though -- we would have to come up with almost $800 HOA fees right then (October 1) before they would proceed -- plus the fee for doing it. We are going to proceed with converting to SPG points, but waiting until 10/1.
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Yes - and it makes sense if you think about. If you get your points on Oct. 1 - you are essentially borrowing them from 2010, and you can "spend" them immediately, so Starwood wants their $$$ before you get your points.
It's pretty much the same concept as borrowing your Staroptions from the next year - you can do it, but you have to pay the MF in advance.
*I added the additional conversion info. to the FAQ. - Thanks!
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You are welcome Cathyb. Interesting that the guide from Starwood did not contain the information regarding the need to pay the MFs. I agree with Denise - it makes sense, since you are in effect getting the right to use the points prior to the use year.
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The guide from Starwood, (our FAQ) is actually not from Starwood. It was a collaborative effort by TUG members. Starwood does not participate on TUG in any way.
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Denise, I was actually refering to the guide at this URL, https://www.mystarcentral.com/refere...ts/sp_ex2.html, which is where I obtained the original information that I provided for Cathyb.
I read a little more from that guide and it does go on to state, "Owners must be current in their financial obligations for the Use Year being converted." Which is another way of saying that you must have paid your MFs for the use year.
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Ohhh...OK!
Do staroptions convert to starpoints at a 1:1 ratio?
Also that page says:
To effectively manage the inventory of your Home Resort, and to ensure that there is sufficient space for Starwood Vacation Network (SVN) members, allotments for Starpoints conversion are set according to season and villa type at each resort. If the total allotment number has been reached, or if it is determined that SVN does not have the ability to rent the week to recover the costs associated with the conversion, a request may be denied.
Has anyone ever been denied when requesting a conversion?
How often and how many staroptions can be converted into starpoints?
Also that page says:
To effectively manage the inventory of your Home Resort, and to ensure that there is sufficient space for Starwood Vacation Network (SVN) members, allotments for Starpoints conversion are set according to season and villa type at each resort. If the total allotment number has been reached, or if it is determined that SVN does not have the ability to rent the week to recover the costs associated with the conversion, a request may be denied.
Has anyone ever been denied when requesting a conversion?
How often and how many staroptions can be converted into starpoints?
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The SO to SP conversion is different for each unit and each resort. For what I have it is closer to 50-60% of the SP (ie:SVR Cascades 90000 SO, 42000 SP)
You must convert your whole unit (or half if it is a lockout) for a full week. Unless you are 3*elite or above you can only convert every other year. (Lockouts can convert alternating sides every year)
The fee is $99 so converting a small unit regularly costs you a lot. I would convert the whole unit every few years rather than a smaller unit more often for this reason.
There is a never ending debate here on the value of conversion you can search for. Unless you play the game really well it is often not worth it from a $ value perspective, but some have done well with it. I, personally use it as a backup, rather than a primary plan.
Also, the SP you get from a conversion expire after 6 years unlike ones earned in a traditional fashion.
I hope this helps. I will likely be just one of many responses.
You must convert your whole unit (or half if it is a lockout) for a full week. Unless you are 3*elite or above you can only convert every other year. (Lockouts can convert alternating sides every year)
The fee is $99 so converting a small unit regularly costs you a lot. I would convert the whole unit every few years rather than a smaller unit more often for this reason.
There is a never ending debate here on the value of conversion you can search for. Unless you play the game really well it is often not worth it from a $ value perspective, but some have done well with it. I, personally use it as a backup, rather than a primary plan.
Also, the SP you get from a conversion expire after 6 years unlike ones earned in a traditional fashion.
I hope this helps. I will likely be just one of many responses.
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You don't really convert Staroptions to Starpoints. You actually can convert your week to either Staroptions or Starpoints.
Converting to points is not a great deal for a one week owner. For instance, I can convert my 2 bdm. Maui timeshare to 80K Starpoints - which will get me 5 nights in a standard hotel room at most Starwood hotels. Not a good value as far as I am concerned. Multiple week owners, with points to burn, who travel internationally, seem to get the most out of their points.
There is a Starpoint chart in Owner Resources at the top of the board that lists all the Starpoint values at all resorts.
For lots of info. about how Starwood works - see the FAQ at the top of the page - it will answer a lot of your questions.
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gomike, ... The value of starpoint conversion does depend on just how you use starpoints.
80k starpoints can be converted into a Level 6 hotel room (20k-25k points per night) for up to 4 nights - with the 5th night free.
Here are the Starwood Level 6 hotels:
North America
The St. Regis Monarch Beach Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California Dana Point
SLS Hotel at Beverly Hills
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California Los Angeles
The St. Regis San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
The St. Regis Aspen Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Colorado Aspen
The St. Regis Washington, D.C.
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States District of Columbia Washington
W South Beach - Opening July 1, 2009
Peak Season
01/01/2010 - 04/10/2010 United States Florida Miami Beach
The Royal Hawaiian United States Hawaii Honolulu
The St. Regis Princeville Resort - Opening October 1, 2009
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Kauai
W New York - Times Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York - Union Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York - The Court
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York - The Tuscany
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
South America
There are no properties in this region.
Europe
Hotel Imperial, Vienna
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Austria Vienna
The Westin Paris
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Paris
Prince de Galles, Paris
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Paris
Hotel Grande Bretagne, Athens
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Athens
Blue Palace Resort & Spa, Elounda
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Elounda
Vedema Resort, Santorini
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Santorini
The Westin Excelsior, Florence
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Firenze
Grand Hotel, Florence
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Firenze
Hotel Excelsior, Naples Italy Naples
Hotel Eden
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Rome
The Westin Excelsior, Rome
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Rome
The St. Regis Grand Hotel, Rome
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Rome
Hotel Danieli, Venice
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Venice
Le Méridien Beach Plaza
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Monaco Monte Carlo
Pine Cliffs Residence, Albufeira
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Portugal Albufeira
Sheraton Palace Hotel, Moscow
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Russia Moscow
W Barcelona - Opening October 1, 2009 Spain Barcelona
Marqués de Riscal, Elciego
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Elciego
Castillo Hotel Son Vida, Mallorca
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Palma de Mallorca
Hotel Alfonso XIII, Seville
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Seville
Hotel President Wilson, Geneva
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Switzerland Geneva
Sheraton Park Tower, London
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Kingdom London
Africa
Sheraton Lagos Hotel Nigeria Lagos Lagos
Le Méridien Fisherman's Cove
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Seychelles Mahé
Middle East
Sheraton Kuwait Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Kuwait Kuwait City
Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Qatar Doha
Le Méridien Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Le Royal Méridien Abu Dhabi
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Sheraton Abu Dhabi Hotel & Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Asia Pacific
The Westin Tokyo
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Japan Tokyo Tokyo
Sheraton Maldives Full Moon Resort & Spa Maldives, Republic of Male’
Le Méridien Ile des Pins
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 New Caledonia Ile des Pins
Plus, if a person is Platinum, there is a free upgrade (based upon availability). Although it won't always happen for me, 5 nights in an upgraded room at one of these Level 6 hotels is not really slumming. And, given what it costs to stay in a room for 5 nights at these hotels (even without an upgrade), I don't think it is a bad deal.
Plus, at 12k-16k per night, these are the Level 5 hotels at which you can get at least 5 nights (with the 6th night free and again an upgrade if you are Platinum):
North America
The Westin Resort & Spa, Whistler
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Canada British Columbia Whistler
Le Westin Resort & Spa, Tremblant, Quebec Canada Quebec Mont Tremblant
The Westin Casuarina Resort & Spa, Grand Cayman
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Cayman Islands Grand Cayman
The Westin Resort & Spa, Los Cabos
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Baja California Sur Los Cabos
Sheraton Hacienda del Mar Golf & Spa Resort, Los Cabos
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Baja California Sur Los Cabos
W Mexico City
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Federal District Mexico City
The St. Regis Mexico City - Opening July 1, 2009 Mexico Federal District Mexico City
Hacienda Santa Rosa
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Yucatan Santa Rosa
Hacienda Temozon
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Yucatan Temozon Sur
The Phoenician, Scottsdale
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Arizona Scottsdale
W Scottsdale
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Arizona Scottsdale
W Los Angeles - Westwood
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California Los Angeles
The Westin Verasa Napa United States California Napa
THE US GRANT, San Diego
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Diego
W San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
Le Méridien San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
Palace Hotel, San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
The Westin Riverfront Resort & Spa, Avon United States Colorado Avon
The Fairfax at Embassy Row, Washington, D.C.
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States District of Columbia Washington
W Washington D.C. - Opening July 8, 2009 United States District of Columbia Washington
The Diplomat Golf Resort & Spa, Hallandale Beach
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Florida Hallandale
The Westin Diplomat Resort & Spa, Hollywood, Florida
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Florida Hollywood
The Westin Key West Resort & Marina
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Florida Key West
Sheraton Waikiki
Peak Season
01/01/2010 - 01/06/2010
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Honolulu
The Westin Maui Resort & Spa, Ka'anapali
Peak Season
12/20/2010 - 01/03/2011
06/21/2010 - 09/06/2010
02/11/2010 - 03/02/2010
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Maui
The Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort Villas United States Hawaii Maui
Sheraton Maui Resort & Spa
Peak Season
01/01/2010 - 01/03/2010
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Maui
The Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas United States Hawaii Princeville Kauai
The Westin Chicago River North
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Illinois Chicago
The Westin Copley Place, Boston
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Massachusetts Boston
Planet Hollywood Hotel & Casino, A Sheraton Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Nevada Las Vegas
The Westin New York at Times Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Four Points by Sheraton Manhattan Chelsea
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Le Parker Méridien New York
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Sheraton New York Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Sheraton Manhattan at Times Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W Dallas - Victory
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Texas Dallas
The Joule, Dallas United States Texas Dallas
The St. Regis Houston
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Texas Houston
The Equinox Golf Resort & Spa, Vermont United States Vermont Manchester Village
The Westin St. John Resort & Villas
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Virgin Islands St. John
South America
Park Tower, Buenos Aires
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Argentina Buenos Aires Buenos Aires
Patios de Cafayate Hotel & Spa Argentina Salta Cafayate
Sheraton Iguazú Resort & Spa Argentina Iguazú
Europe
Hotel Goldener Hirsch, Salzburg
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Austria Salzburg
Hotel Bristol, Vienna
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Austria Vienna
Le Méridien Limassol Spa & Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Cyprus Limassol
Sheraton Prague Charles Square Hotel Czech Republic Prague
Hotel Kämp, Helsinki
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Finland Helsinki
Le Méridien Nice
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Nice
Le Méridien Etoile
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Paris
Sheraton Paris Airport Hotel & Conference Centre
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Roissy
The Westin Athens Astir Palace Beach Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Athens - Vouliagmeni
Arion Resort & Spa, Astir Palace, Athens
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Athens - Vouliagmeni
The Westin Palace, Milan
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Milan
Sheraton Diana Majestic, Milan
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Milan
The Westin Europa & Regina, Venice
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Venice
Hotel Pulitzer, Amsterdam
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Netherlands Amsterdam
Hotel Des Indes, The Hague
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Netherlands The Hague
Le Méridien Barcelona
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/01/2009 Spain Barcelona
Le Méridien Ra Beach Hotel & Spa
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain El Vendrell
The Westin Palace, Madrid
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Madrid
Arabella Sheraton Golf Hotel Son Vida, Mallorca
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Palma de Mallorca
Hotel Maria Cristina, San Sebastian
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain San Sebastian
The Westin Valencia
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Valencia
Sheraton Neues Schloss Hotel - Zurich
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Switzerland Zurich
W Istanbul
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Turkey Istanbul
Turnberry Resort, Scotland
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Kingdom Ayrshire
Le Méridien Piccadilly
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Kingdom London
Africa
Sheraton Club des Pins Resort and Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Algeria Algiers
The Grand Mauritian Resort & Spa, Mauritius Mauritius Turtle Bay
Le Méridien Ogeyi Place
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Nigeria Rivers State Port Harcourt
Le Méridien Barbarons Seychelles Mahé
Middle East
Sheraton Bahrain Hotel
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Bahrain Manama
Four Points by Sheraton Bhamdoun Lebanon Bhamdoun
W Doha Hotel & Residences Qatar Doha
Sheraton Riyadh Hotel & Towers Saudi Arabia Riyadh
Sheraton Khalidiya Hotel, Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Sheraton Jumeirah Beach Resort & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Dubai
Four Points by Sheraton Sheikh Zayed Road, Dubai United Arab Emirates Dubai
Sheraton Dubai Creek Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Dubai
Sheraton Deira Hotel, Dubai United Arab Emirates Dubai
Asia Pacific
The St. Regis Beijing
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 China Beijing Beijing
Sheraton Sanya Resort China Hainan Sanya
W Hong Kong China Hong Kong Hong Kong
Sheraton Hong Kong Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 China Hong Kong Hong Kong
The Westin Bund Center, Shanghai
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 China Shanghai Shanghai
Le Royal Méridien Shanghai China Shanghai Shanghai
ITC Windsor, Bengaluru India Karnataka Bangalore
Sheraton Grande Tokyo Bay Hotel
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Japan Chiba Urayasu
The St. Regis Singapore
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Singapore Singapore
Sheraton Saigon Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Vietnam Ho Chi Minh City
Admittedly, some of the Level 5 hotels are not worth the 6 nights through 80k starpoints, but, IMO, most are. ... eom
80k starpoints can be converted into a Level 6 hotel room (20k-25k points per night) for up to 4 nights - with the 5th night free.
Here are the Starwood Level 6 hotels:
North America
The St. Regis Monarch Beach Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California Dana Point
SLS Hotel at Beverly Hills
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California Los Angeles
The St. Regis San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
The St. Regis Aspen Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Colorado Aspen
The St. Regis Washington, D.C.
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States District of Columbia Washington
W South Beach - Opening July 1, 2009
Peak Season
01/01/2010 - 04/10/2010 United States Florida Miami Beach
The Royal Hawaiian United States Hawaii Honolulu
The St. Regis Princeville Resort - Opening October 1, 2009
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Kauai
W New York - Times Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York - Union Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York - The Court
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York - The Tuscany
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
South America
There are no properties in this region.
Europe
Hotel Imperial, Vienna
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Austria Vienna
The Westin Paris
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Paris
Prince de Galles, Paris
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Paris
Hotel Grande Bretagne, Athens
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Athens
Blue Palace Resort & Spa, Elounda
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Elounda
Vedema Resort, Santorini
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Santorini
The Westin Excelsior, Florence
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Firenze
Grand Hotel, Florence
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Firenze
Hotel Excelsior, Naples Italy Naples
Hotel Eden
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Rome
The Westin Excelsior, Rome
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Rome
The St. Regis Grand Hotel, Rome
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Rome
Hotel Danieli, Venice
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Venice
Le Méridien Beach Plaza
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Monaco Monte Carlo
Pine Cliffs Residence, Albufeira
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Portugal Albufeira
Sheraton Palace Hotel, Moscow
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Russia Moscow
W Barcelona - Opening October 1, 2009 Spain Barcelona
Marqués de Riscal, Elciego
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Elciego
Castillo Hotel Son Vida, Mallorca
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Palma de Mallorca
Hotel Alfonso XIII, Seville
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Seville
Hotel President Wilson, Geneva
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Switzerland Geneva
Sheraton Park Tower, London
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Kingdom London
Africa
Sheraton Lagos Hotel Nigeria Lagos Lagos
Le Méridien Fisherman's Cove
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Seychelles Mahé
Middle East
Sheraton Kuwait Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Kuwait Kuwait City
Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Qatar Doha
Le Méridien Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Le Royal Méridien Abu Dhabi
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Sheraton Abu Dhabi Hotel & Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Asia Pacific
The Westin Tokyo
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Japan Tokyo Tokyo
Sheraton Maldives Full Moon Resort & Spa Maldives, Republic of Male’
Le Méridien Ile des Pins
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 New Caledonia Ile des Pins
Plus, if a person is Platinum, there is a free upgrade (based upon availability). Although it won't always happen for me, 5 nights in an upgraded room at one of these Level 6 hotels is not really slumming. And, given what it costs to stay in a room for 5 nights at these hotels (even without an upgrade), I don't think it is a bad deal.
Plus, at 12k-16k per night, these are the Level 5 hotels at which you can get at least 5 nights (with the 6th night free and again an upgrade if you are Platinum):
North America
The Westin Resort & Spa, Whistler
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Canada British Columbia Whistler
Le Westin Resort & Spa, Tremblant, Quebec Canada Quebec Mont Tremblant
The Westin Casuarina Resort & Spa, Grand Cayman
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Cayman Islands Grand Cayman
The Westin Resort & Spa, Los Cabos
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Baja California Sur Los Cabos
Sheraton Hacienda del Mar Golf & Spa Resort, Los Cabos
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Baja California Sur Los Cabos
W Mexico City
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Federal District Mexico City
The St. Regis Mexico City - Opening July 1, 2009 Mexico Federal District Mexico City
Hacienda Santa Rosa
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Yucatan Santa Rosa
Hacienda Temozon
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Mexico Yucatan Temozon Sur
The Phoenician, Scottsdale
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Arizona Scottsdale
W Scottsdale
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Arizona Scottsdale
W Los Angeles - Westwood
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California Los Angeles
The Westin Verasa Napa United States California Napa
THE US GRANT, San Diego
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Diego
W San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
Le Méridien San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
Palace Hotel, San Francisco
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States California San Francisco
The Westin Riverfront Resort & Spa, Avon United States Colorado Avon
The Fairfax at Embassy Row, Washington, D.C.
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States District of Columbia Washington
W Washington D.C. - Opening July 8, 2009 United States District of Columbia Washington
The Diplomat Golf Resort & Spa, Hallandale Beach
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Florida Hallandale
The Westin Diplomat Resort & Spa, Hollywood, Florida
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Florida Hollywood
The Westin Key West Resort & Marina
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Florida Key West
Sheraton Waikiki
Peak Season
01/01/2010 - 01/06/2010
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Honolulu
The Westin Maui Resort & Spa, Ka'anapali
Peak Season
12/20/2010 - 01/03/2011
06/21/2010 - 09/06/2010
02/11/2010 - 03/02/2010
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Maui
The Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort Villas United States Hawaii Maui
Sheraton Maui Resort & Spa
Peak Season
01/01/2010 - 01/03/2010
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Hawaii Maui
The Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas United States Hawaii Princeville Kauai
The Westin Chicago River North
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Illinois Chicago
The Westin Copley Place, Boston
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Massachusetts Boston
Planet Hollywood Hotel & Casino, A Sheraton Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Nevada Las Vegas
The Westin New York at Times Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Four Points by Sheraton Manhattan Chelsea
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Le Parker Méridien New York
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Sheraton New York Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
Sheraton Manhattan at Times Square
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W New York
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States New York New York
W Dallas - Victory
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Texas Dallas
The Joule, Dallas United States Texas Dallas
The St. Regis Houston
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Texas Houston
The Equinox Golf Resort & Spa, Vermont United States Vermont Manchester Village
The Westin St. John Resort & Villas
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United States Virgin Islands St. John
South America
Park Tower, Buenos Aires
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Argentina Buenos Aires Buenos Aires
Patios de Cafayate Hotel & Spa Argentina Salta Cafayate
Sheraton Iguazú Resort & Spa Argentina Iguazú
Europe
Hotel Goldener Hirsch, Salzburg
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Austria Salzburg
Hotel Bristol, Vienna
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Austria Vienna
Le Méridien Limassol Spa & Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Cyprus Limassol
Sheraton Prague Charles Square Hotel Czech Republic Prague
Hotel Kämp, Helsinki
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Finland Helsinki
Le Méridien Nice
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Nice
Le Méridien Etoile
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Paris
Sheraton Paris Airport Hotel & Conference Centre
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 France Roissy
The Westin Athens Astir Palace Beach Resort
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Athens - Vouliagmeni
Arion Resort & Spa, Astir Palace, Athens
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Greece Athens - Vouliagmeni
The Westin Palace, Milan
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Milan
Sheraton Diana Majestic, Milan
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Milan
The Westin Europa & Regina, Venice
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Italy Venice
Hotel Pulitzer, Amsterdam
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Netherlands Amsterdam
Hotel Des Indes, The Hague
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Netherlands The Hague
Le Méridien Barcelona
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/01/2009 Spain Barcelona
Le Méridien Ra Beach Hotel & Spa
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain El Vendrell
The Westin Palace, Madrid
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Madrid
Arabella Sheraton Golf Hotel Son Vida, Mallorca
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Palma de Mallorca
Hotel Maria Cristina, San Sebastian
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain San Sebastian
The Westin Valencia
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Spain Valencia
Sheraton Neues Schloss Hotel - Zurich
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Switzerland Zurich
W Istanbul
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Turkey Istanbul
Turnberry Resort, Scotland
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Kingdom Ayrshire
Le Méridien Piccadilly
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Kingdom London
Africa
Sheraton Club des Pins Resort and Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Algeria Algiers
The Grand Mauritian Resort & Spa, Mauritius Mauritius Turtle Bay
Le Méridien Ogeyi Place
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Nigeria Rivers State Port Harcourt
Le Méridien Barbarons Seychelles Mahé
Middle East
Sheraton Bahrain Hotel
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Bahrain Manama
Four Points by Sheraton Bhamdoun Lebanon Bhamdoun
W Doha Hotel & Residences Qatar Doha
Sheraton Riyadh Hotel & Towers Saudi Arabia Riyadh
Sheraton Khalidiya Hotel, Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi
Sheraton Jumeirah Beach Resort & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Dubai
Four Points by Sheraton Sheikh Zayed Road, Dubai United Arab Emirates Dubai
Sheraton Dubai Creek Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 United Arab Emirates Dubai
Sheraton Deira Hotel, Dubai United Arab Emirates Dubai
Asia Pacific
The St. Regis Beijing
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 China Beijing Beijing
Sheraton Sanya Resort China Hainan Sanya
W Hong Kong China Hong Kong Hong Kong
Sheraton Hong Kong Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 China Hong Kong Hong Kong
The Westin Bund Center, Shanghai
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 China Shanghai Shanghai
Le Royal Méridien Shanghai China Shanghai Shanghai
ITC Windsor, Bengaluru India Karnataka Bangalore
Sheraton Grande Tokyo Bay Hotel
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Japan Chiba Urayasu
The St. Regis Singapore
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Singapore Singapore
Sheraton Saigon Hotel & Towers
Peak Season
01/01/2009 - 01/02/2009 Vietnam Ho Chi Minh City
Admittedly, some of the Level 5 hotels are not worth the 6 nights through 80k starpoints, but, IMO, most are. ... eom
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I would agree with that statement.
As an example.
I had previously deposited a studio unit with II and traded it for a 2BR at Kierland. As it turns out I was not going to be able to use it so I cancelled the week just before the redeposit to II would have become restricted. I was able to find a week in a 1BR in Switzerland and immediatly reserved it.
I was short AA miles so I transferred 40K Starpoints to AA netting a 50K deposit with the bonus. I was able to get two coach award seats on AA for my newly booked trip for March of '10.
If i had to pay for those tickets the current fare would have been over 2k per ticket. Admittedly I could have waited and something less expensive would have come along, however, being out of work at the moment, free is better than paying.
My 40K transfer is about 1/2 of converting my Maui week. In today's $ that saved me over $4000.00
I agree that Starpoints have the most value when used internationally, for either hotels or air.
Henry M.
TUG Member
How did you manage to get 2 coach tickets to Europe with 50,000 points? They are generally at least 60,000 points with AA.
Even if you did have to redeem the full 80K Starpoints, it is still a good deal to get $4,000 for your unit. You might have been able to rent it for that much, but it would have involved a lot more hassle.
Even if you did have to redeem the full 80K Starpoints, it is still a good deal to get $4,000 for your unit. You might have been able to rent it for that much, but it would have involved a lot more hassle.
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TUG Member
The tickets were 40,000 miles each. I was short miles so I cashed in 40,000 Starpoints netting 50,000 AAdvantage miles. that, plus the miles in my AAdvantage account gave me the necessary 80,000 for the two tickets.
[Rental information removed.] No bites yet. I have until the end of June to decide what to do regarding Starpoints conversion..... If nothing happens with it before then. I will likely deposit part of it with II and convert the other to Starpoints.
[Because of our no advertising rule, you aren't allowed to post the details of your rentals in the forums. Thanks - DeniseM]
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No, unfortunatly not.
Mandatory gets you the ability to convert your week to StarOptions and trade within the Starwood Vacation Network (SVN)
You can only convert to StarPoints if you purchase from the developer or requalify a resale purchase with a developer purchase.
See the FAQ for information on that
Mandatory gets you the ability to convert your week to StarOptions and trade within the Starwood Vacation Network (SVN)
You can only convert to StarPoints if you purchase from the developer or requalify a resale purchase with a developer purchase.
See the FAQ for information on that