My guess would be:
a) they will get out in front of any decision for 2016 and provide earlier and better notice, and
b) they will be at least a little wary of a backlash similar to what just occurred if they attempt to implement something outrageous and unjustified, and
c) we will see a somewhat significant increase in Open Season rates.
I guess the combination of all these factors will determine what, if any, our response will be. We will need to be ready, willing and able to mobilize once again, should we be treated next year the same way we were treated this year. Wouldn't seem like a wise political decision for them.
I'm reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Somehow, I don't think HGVC management is "insane."
I made it clear to HGVC as I did here at TUG if the inventory comes from what is not reserved during Club Season by owner/members, the rates should be about the same as they are now with no SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. That will be my position in 2015, 2016 and as long as I own Hilton Timeshares as it was in the end of 2014 when I found out about their ridiculous increases.
Hi,
As you may be aware. HGVC have announced a new variable price hike to the Open Season rates by 100% from 2014 to 2015 even after a considerable increase in 2014. The rates are allocated with a massive price bracket without any explanation or justication to allow anyone to understand in advance what the rate may be, after all I thought that is what HGVC had silver, gold and platinum for! So there was clarity for us all. This is a major change to the system. Please take a minute to read, understand and take action.
I have added another post with a sample letter on this thread if you need a time saver.
Whether you have never used the Open season, occasionally or a lot. It is crucial that we are not passive to this change to double the rates. We all expect from time to time that prices will increase we see that with our dues but to double the open season rates is unacceptable and disgraceful. It demonstrates a view that Hilton has of its customers and one that if we let ride on this occasion will soon creep into other areas, yearly dues, food, drinks.
I read many posts voicing disappointment about the change so let's do something about it!
I am sure like lots of us our jobs involve dealing with customers who on earth would think doubling prices from one year to the next was ok needs their head examining. They claim it is to be inline with other hotels in the area, I don't buy that even the Waldorf doesn't charge as much admittedly maybe with a smaller room, but the current system has also minimised empty rooms too for Hilton.
I rang up HGVC to get an understanding of the new system and wanted to know how to understand the variances. For example in Gold season a 2 bed apartment could cost another between $135 and $270 but how did I know what this was based on? occupancy? Time of year? They couldn't give me send answer and the advisor told me they didn't know themselves but suggested I email in. If they don't know how are we supposed too!
So not only is the increase insulting to us all but it is badly thought out without any real logic applied to how any why it is done. We now have no certainty of what the rates will be and that was the fundamental aspect of the system.
CALL TO ACTION Please take 5 minutes to email input@hgvc.com voicing your disapproval in the change in the strongest possible terms. 5 voices may be brushed aside but 500 would be much harder to do and if possible post those comments to the Facebook page and Twitter account of HGVC. They have so far ignored many of the posts and hope it will go away. Let's make sure it doesn't.
So I went to add on 2 days to a points reservation but amongst the rates was 2 nights at Parc Soleil for $598!!!! for a 2 bed unit. I expect there to be small increases but this again is scandalous and HGVC have clearly hoped why we weren't looking that would seek to take advantage......
That’s probably due to the ridiculous unit type permutations at Parc Soleil.
Unlike the other Orlando resorts (SeaWorld and Tuscany) which only offer a single standard category per unit size, Parc Soleil has higher level categories for each unit size with increasing cost (costing HGVC members either more points or more cash). It’s basically a ripoff so I would make sure you book the standard two bedroom at the Orlando resorts if you want the better deal.
A “standard” two bedroom in Platinum Season during Open Season, will cost you the following plus tax:
- In 2015, $145 per night for Monday - Thursday and $170 per night for Friday - Saturday
- In 2018, $185 per night for Monday - Thursday and $211 per night for Friday - Saturday
2018 OPEN SEASON RATES for Orlando
2015 OPEN SEASON RATES
Unfortunately, I don't think they will lower any fees.. they are a public company and want to show revenue growth. ..that being said a 2br normal is rentable for equivalent of around 19 cents a point. ..which when looked at that way isn't terrible. . It just isn't a screaming bargain. .
(My mf at bay club run mid 20s a point so I still end up ahead paying cash vs using points ).
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That is a very good point and is an extreme example and the cost can't be justified. so really need to keep on at them to avoid these hikes!
JMHO... I suggest starting a new thread with a link to this old 2015 thread otherwise this new 2018 charge will simply get lost since it’s buried on page 7 of this 2015 cause.
It will also be helpful to clearly state your case (expected outcome and why).
If it’s a website problem, 6 months is a long time for the HGVC website to be charging members incorrect rates
Still think buy exactly where and when you want to travel even in a system so if things change you are still happy.
I didn't buy-in for the OS "benefit." I used it 1x in 11 years.
If I'm paying cash, I compare HGVC to other hotel rooms +"suites."
Often, I find other Hilton properties or even Marriotts w-better deals.
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