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What the heck could prompt this?

I called in to make a developer purchase and I was told that they were not allowed to sell me points.

An aside: my sales rep has left Wyndham and I had a price lock


Today, I contacted Corporate Sales and they told me I was flagged, so I cannot buy anymore points. Sales person said my account is flagged "Non Personal Use" and to call Legal for reason. I didn't call.

Still can make reservations, but it is possible I will be audited. Were you Audited?
 

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Non Personal Use? It sounds like Wyndham has you flagged as a renter. Do you do a lot of renting? Maybe Wyndham did you a favor. If you want more points you are forced to buy resell. They saved you a lot of money.

Then on the other hand, is blacklisting legal? Can a publicly traded company refuse someone service? If so under what grounds.
 

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I wonder if I will get the cold shoulder when I go for my Shell update next year. Maybe they will let me give back my Shell points to avoid a scene? That would be cool.
 

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Non Personal Use? It sounds like Wyndham has you flagged as a renter. Do you do a lot of renting? Maybe Wyndham did you a favor. If you want more points you are forced to buy resell. They saved you a lot of money.

Then on the other hand, is blacklisting legal? Can a publicly traded company refuse someone service? If so under what grounds.

I have a current loan from Wyndham for a 20yr term to pay off a NYC developer purchase of 200,000 points.

I hope they let me rent to help pay off the loan.

I guess I will just wait and see what they do.
 

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I have a current loan from Wyndham for a 20yr term to pay off a NYC developer purchase of 200,000 points.

I hope they let me rent to help pay off the loan.

I guess I will just wait and see what they do.

Yes you can rent. What you can't do is buy any more points directly from Wyndham at this time. You can however buy resale points.
 

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I have a current loan from Wyndham for a 20yr term to pay off a NYC developer purchase of 200,000 points.

I hope they let me rent to help pay off the loan.

I guess I will just wait and see what they do.
If you are going to rent, my advice is to look for high demand locations and high demand timeframes to maximize profits. Those will cost you more points, but you can charge more. Look for the older resorts because the points required are generally lower. Use Craigslist because it's free. If you pay to advertise the profits are lower. Study Craigslist to get a feel for pricing and locations. We're here to help so take advantage of our wealth of knowledge.
 

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If you are going to rent, my advice is to look for high demand locations and high demand timeframes to maximize profits. Those will cost you more points, but you can charge more. Look for the older resorts because the points required are generally lower. Use Craigslist because it's free. If you pay to advertise the profits are lower. Study Craigslist to get a feel for pricing and locations. We're here to help so take advantage of our wealth of knowledge.

Thank you for advice. I retire this year, so I will be using more of my points for personal use soon.
 

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Thank you for advice. I retire this year, so I will be using more of my points for personal use soon.
That is the best use of point, personal use. Enjoy!
 

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Yes you can rent. What you can't do is buy any more points directly from Wyndham at this time. You can however buy resale points.

I just got a call from Corp. sales from Vegas (702) number that they will be referring me to my Corp. Sales rep. In Redmond, WA.

Advised that sales rep will call me at 230pm PST today.

First a rep says I can't buy points, now they call me scheduling a sales call?

I wonder what will happen.
 

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That is odd... given that Redmond is where Worldmark is based out of. Maybe they are going to try to sell you WM credits, since you are barred from buying Wyndham points.
 

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Didn't they shut down the Redmond WA Office last year?
 

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I just got a call from Corp. sales from Vegas (702) number that they will be referring me to my Corp. Sales rep. In Redmond, WA.

Advised that sales rep will call me at 230pm PST today.

First a rep says I can't buy points, now they call me scheduling a sales call?

I wonder what will happen.
Could be a scam. I get phone calls from 702 all of the time, and they are scams. You could have been giving this person way too much information to lead the call into something that it wasn't. Just saying.
 

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Wyndham did or still does have telesales in Redmond WA. It’s a regional office with more than just telesales
 

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I dont believe so.... later this year if I remember correctly.

Just got a call back from 702 number and she said after review she saw " Not for personal use " , and said I couldn't buy from tele sales. But to try a Wyndham location sales. Also, she said that I could contact corporate "legal" to inquire about " Not for personal use " notation on my account.

Also, I won't be receiving call from Redmond, WA sales office, she advised.


My conclusions:

1) I won't call Wyndham corporate "legal" department.
2) I can continue to buy resale points.
 

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I am new to this group, and have been a Wyndham Owner for Many years, and have been on the Do Not Update list for at least 3 years now. I figured they put me on it because I had more points than I can use in a year, and some of them are resale, and I figured they knew I wouldn't be purchasing any more points from them at anywhere NEAR the retail price. Not sure why anyone would once they know they can purchase resale. Anyway, some the stuff you are talking about here is new to me, and I guess I didn't realize Wyndham was blocking people from purchasing more points. Not sure how they can block anyone from purchasing resale points though... Willing seller, willing buyer.? Or does this only pertain to buying from Wyndham directly? If so, who cares, they are WAY OVER PRICED!!!
 

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Jmama9643 wrote: "Not sure how they can block anyone from purchasing resale points though..."

That part is easy...get a certain number of contracts on your account (I believe it is 30, but someone will correct me if I am wrong) and even though you have done all the paperwork, "paid" for the resale (purchase, transfer fee, etc.), the deed was recorded, and then the painfully long 14-16 weeks of waiting, Wyndham informs you that they will not add the contract to your account...sucks, but it could happen...

Cheers!
 

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Jmama9643 wrote: "Not sure how they can block anyone from purchasing resale points though..."

That part is easy...get a certain number of contracts on your account (I believe it is 30, but someone will correct me if I am wrong) and even though you have done all the paperwork, "paid" for the resale (purchase, transfer fee, etc.), the deed was recorded, and then the painfully long 14-16 weeks of waiting, Wyndham informs you that they will not add the contract to your account...sucks, but it could happen...

Cheers!
Wyndham could always set you up with another account number. Nothing says you can't have more than one account number.
 

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Wyndham could always set you up with another account number. Nothing says you can't have more than one account number.
Agreed...but that's assuming Wyndham wants to play nice...

Cheers!
 

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Agreed...but that's assuming Wyndham wants to play nice...

Cheers!
Wyndham is a for profit company so I don't think a second account will be an issue. It's all about the bottom line ($$$$). I use to have two account numbers until I downsized. I'm sure there are hundreds of owners who have more than one account number. Some even have several accounts.
 

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Wyndham tried to put me in a second account after 10 contracts but then merged them together. They forced me into a second account at 40 contracts and would not merge (or give me Platinum benefits on the second account without more $).
 
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