Electric Car Battery Charging Stations at resorts

[geist1223]

One thing I do not like is that while electric cars are using the roads they are not paying road taxes via the gasoline taxes. Most states and locals are having a hard enough time maintaining roads. So we need to come up with a way to fairly assess road taxes to the electric cars and hybrids. Oregon was looking at a mileage tax but it did not fly.

 

[SeaDoc]

One thing I do not like is that while electric cars are using the roads they are not paying road taxes via the gasoline taxes. Most states and locals are having a hard enough time maintaining roads. So we need to come up with a way to fairly assess road taxes to the electric cars and hybrids. Oregon was looking at a mileage tax but it did not fly.

We're paying a ton in registration fees, so don't think we're not paying our fair share... We're paying electric usage taxes, while you're paying gas taxes...

 

[geist1223]

We're paying a ton in registration fees, so don't think we're not paying our fair share... We're paying electric usage taxes, while you're paying gas taxes...

But that does not go to road maintenance.

 

[SeaDoc]

But that does not go to road maintenance.

I'd be more concerned about heavy weighted trucks, than EV vehicles damaging roadways...

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[Passepartout]

One thing I do not like is that while electric cars are using the roads they are not paying road taxes via the gasoline taxes. Most states and locals are having a hard enough time maintaining roads. So we need to come up with a way to fairly assess road taxes to the electric cars and hybrids. Oregon was looking at a mileage tax but it did not fly.

We pay an additional highway use fee annually with registration on electric AND hybrid cars (which use gasoline as well). Oregon has a regressive mileage tax on heavy trucks already making it one of the worst places for truckers to fuel.

Having no cost EV chargers is an appropriate amenity for timeshares, just like casino garages, as affluent owners are the target clientele. Sometimes subsidy is necessary to kick start necessary public benefits. If government hadn't given mail contracts to up and coming entrepreneur enterprises, there wouldn't be airlines.

Jim

 

[Steve Fatula]

Lots of SuperChargers for Oklahoma are being planned...

https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bounds=38.19957752394419,-89.18272074999999,31.68636632431915,-105.00303324999999&zoom=7&filters=supercharger&search=Oklahoma, USA

I know, they just need to have a *lot* more. The only way to Kenton OK with the planned ones is via Clayton NM, would make the drive too far. I love driving my Volt anyway, it's a very nice car IMHO. Love merging in traffic as even if they are doing 70, with no entrance ramp, I can still merge in with no problems at all. But I do look forward to more and more chargers!

 

[NboroGirl]

Yep, got that too, the tax credit. Made the car no more expensive than any decent non PHEV car. Love the Volt, however, it was recently discontinued as Chevy seems to think no one wants cars any more. I think it was the second best selling PHEV. I guess I am in the minority, I still like cars, and despise SUVs.

The Volt was never meant to be a permanent offering from Chevrolet. It was more of a concept car with the gas generator to get people used to electric cars without having range anxiety. Now that batteries are much improved with longer ranges, the Volt has practically become obsolete (tho I love mine and love having the gas generator for long trips).

 

[buzglyd]

Cadillac is no longer making the CT6 hybrid so when mine goes off lease it’s adios.

The scary thing is when the battery bites the dust. My sisters Prius only lasted 100k and the replacement cost is almost 4 grand.

 

[Steve Fatula]

The Volt was never meant to be a permanent offering from Chevrolet. It was more of a concept car with the gas generator to get people used to electric cars without having range anxiety. Now that batteries are much improved with longer ranges, the Volt has practically become obsolete (tho I love mine and love having the gas generator for long trips).

There are several here who bought similar cars for the same reason. It's simply not possible for me to use an all electric car at this time, and I am far from alone. Read through the thread and you'll find more than me. Batteries have indeed much improved, charging and availability has not. It has a long way to go before the masses can adopt.

Most of Chevies actions were due to their expressed opinion that people do not want cars any more. Perhaps you are right about this one model. But according to Chevy, cars are going away and I sure hope not!

 

[Steve Fatula]

Cadillac is no longer making the CT6 hybrid so when mine goes off lease it’s adios.

The scary thing is when the battery bites the dust. My sisters Prius only lasted 100k and the replacement cost is almost 4 grand.

Does she have the plugin version or are you speaking of the traditional Prius? For the non plugin version, the hybrid battery was similarly expensive, however, one could purchase them for < 1K in the aftermarket. Most of the battery cars have a long warranty. On my Volt, it's 100k. Historically, very very few Volts have ever needed a battery replacement, even well beyond 100k, even 200k. But it of course is possible. Have not heard of engine replacements though. Which is not cheap on gas cars.

Our 2006 Prius is approaching 200k miles, no issue at all still. We're going to keep it until it dies and then probably use only 1 car, the Volt.

 

[Passepartout]

scary thing is when the battery bites the dust. My sisters Prius only lasted 100k and the replacement cost is almost 4 grand.

Prius has a 10 yr 100k mile warranty on the hybrid system. And even beyond that, a 2nd gen battery on Amazon is less than $2K

Jim

 

[buzglyd]

Prius has a 10 yr 100k mile warranty on the hybrid system. And even beyond that, a 2nd gen battery on Amazon is less than $2K

Jim

Hers was a non plug in and the car had about 107,000 on it.

 

[pedro47]

At SurfWatch as you enter the security gate from the street turn left and there are two (2) ev charging stations between the first two (2) buildings.

 

[Steve Fatula]

At SurfWatch as you enter the security gate from the street turn left and there are two (2) ev charging stations between the first two (2) buildings.

I must have driven right by 30 times! Thanks!

 

[MikeM132]

There are several here who bought similar cars for the same reason. It's simply not possible for me to use an all electric car at this time, and I am far from alone. Read through the thread and you'll find more than me. Batteries have indeed much improved, charging and availability has not. It has a long way to go before the masses can adopt.

Most of Chevies actions were due to their expressed opinion that people do not want cars any more. Perhaps you are right about this one model. But according to Chevy, cars are going away and I sure hope not!

1. I have a 2017 Volt.
2. GM action on reducing sedans is mainly because they don't make as much (or in case of Volt, any) money on them
3. GM, Ford, etc. are making SUVs and trucks instead because the margin is MUCH MUCH higher, not really as much due to low demand (although that is their excuse).
4. Volt is a fantastic car. Best I've ever owned (except kind of small)
5. Everything made at Detroit Hamtrammack was cancelled. Volt was in their.
6. You can buy (maybe) a Chinese "Volt" which is some Buick model (but identical to a Volt). So the concept is not dead. Just the factory.

 

[MikeM132]

Anybody have any info on Ocean Pointe electric charging? Even 120V? I did see the one in Grande Vista in January...mostly no car parked there, and it was free. Right by the gate on the "new side" where the Copa Loca is. We may drive in November to Ocean Pointe and I have a Chevy Volt which I like to drive in electric mode when I can.

 

[MikeM132]

Yeah, you just don't leave those $300+ power cords all that accessible- even if they are on zero value to someone who doesn't have an electric car.

Which brings up another question, since you have more experience with these than I do. We wonder if there is a semi-official courtesy/practicality/
etiquette regarding said power cords. Say you find a charging station with it's cord plugged into another car- that shows being fully charged. Is it OK to unplug their car and plug yours in? One place we go semi-frequently is a Whole Foods. The charging station there is where 4 parking spaces meet, so it's not uncommon to find a parking space but invariably another EV is plugged in- not necessarily getting power. What to do? My DW wonders if it's like in the college dorm when some other student's clothes are in the dryer and it's finished. Do you take them out and put yours in?

You can lock your power cord. Also, at least my car has an alarm if somebody pulls out the plug when locked. My 120V cord (the one I keep in car) is closer to 500 bucks. They do get stolen. There are tons of discussions online about charging station etiquette. They even sell magnets you can put on your car that state it's OK to unplug if your car shows "full" (mine has a light on dashboard that is solid green when charge complete).