mickeypops
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We were visiting Miami from the UK last November and had a pretty “hard sell” experience, and have vowed never to attend another presentation.
Luvtoride....thanks for your comments. Actually I found it an enjoyable hour. I find commissioned timeshare salesmen/saleswomen to be quite fascinating. They can be very creative. They come up with all kinds of crazy reasons why we should spend a fortune to buy points at absurd retail prices when we can rent them or buy them for much less money. This may surprise you, but I really look forward to these presentations. And the $275 is the icing on the cake.Jlep, many of us would look at that as one hour of your vacation time wasted that you will never get back. As I’ve said in a prior post on this topic, most of us have our “price” for attending presentations and if they meet your price, go for it!
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The west coast properties as a rule are offering as of this year (Jan/Feb) $200, while Grand Vista is offering $350.
We are Chairmans club and own OF @ MOC Napili building too. We rarely go because we turn it into tons of vacation club points. December 2018 we did use our Maui time and went to a meeting. I believe it was $125 for restaurants and or a small amount of points. When we go to Marriott VC in Tahoe or Palm Desert we are offered at least $200 and or 50,000 MP. We have never negotiated our incentives but will consider it in the future. Like you we like the update but do not need more time. I keep thinking they'll stop inviting us. Happy travels!I didn't realize that one can "negotiate" for more incentives than the opening offer to attend the presentation. We go to the Maui Ocean Club almost every year (own 2 OF weeks at Napili and are Chairman's Club) but incentives over the years have become progressively bad. I think this year, the offer was only Bonvoy points (15K?). (I actually also like to attend presentations to get caught up on ownership and resort info but feel like we're not getting a good deal for our time.) Anybody get more than this at MOC? And for those that have been successful at negotiating more incentives, would you mind sharing some of the secrets to the "art of your deal"?
We are Chairmans club and own OF @ MOC Napili building too. We rarely go because we turn it into tons of vacation club points. December 2018 we did use our Maui time and went to a meeting. I believe it was $125 for restaurants and or a small amount of points. When we go to Marriott VC in Tahoe or Palm Desert we are offered at least $200 and or 50,000 MP. We have never negotiated our incentives but will consider it in the future. Like you we like the update but do not need more time. I keep thinking they'll stop inviting us. Happy travels!
I didn't realize that one can "negotiate" for more incentives than the opening offer to attend the presentation. We go to the Maui Ocean Club almost every year (own 2 OF weeks at Napili and are Chairman's Club) but incentives over the years have become progressively bad. I think this year, the offer was only Bonvoy points (15K?). (I actually also like to attend presentations to get caught up on ownership and resort info but feel like we're not getting a good deal for our time.) Anybody get more than this at MOC? And for those that have been successful at negotiating more incentives, would you mind sharing some of the secrets to the "art of your deal"?
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That 30K will be my minimum going forward. My last two Vistana presentations provided 10K and 15K Starpoints so I'm expecting 30K - 45K BONVoY points or we will just stop attending as it isn't worth less than that for me.
I am here now and was offered 17500 mrp for doing a nanea presentation. I politely declined. If you want to meet another tugger,I will be back at the resort tonight after sunset on Haleaka. Will probably be at the hot tub about 830pm or so. I am in 6654 if you want to call the room.Datapoint (also posted in Vistana forum): Checked into the Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort Villas North yesterday and was offered 30,000 Bonvoy points for the presentation.
I have negotiated more than once. Don't always win. I just tell them the truth. i.e., 15,000 MR points is not worth my time, and they usually say are you sure, and I say yes. 1 of 2 things then happens:
1. Have a good day, and I don't go just like I said or
2. What if we could get you x, and then we start over.
Golf is crazy expensive in the Scottsdale area. For that reason we prefer to go to Palm Desert area over Scottsdale. Newport Coast area is also expensive unless you go to inland public courses but they are not as nice as resort courses.