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Is there ANY advantage to buying a small amt of trust pts as a legacy owner enrolled in Dest. Prog?

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Salesman can’t confirm that by buying trust pts that I there is TRULY any additional inventory vs what I already see. Also they couldn’t confirm once I use the small allotment of pts I buy that my “increased” inventory wouldn’t just return to what it was. Thoughts?
 

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Salesman can’t confirm that by buying trust pts that I there is TRULY any additional inventory vs what I already see. Also they couldn’t confirm once I use the small allotment of pts I buy that my “increased” inventory wouldn’t just return to what it was. Thoughts?

This is not clear to me, but you can see the same inventory with trust and legacy points.
 
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I bought a small amount of Trust Points because there is a specific property (Ritz Carlton St. Thomas) where I have seen multiple instances where it required a percentage of the reservation to be Trust Points. I do not know if that was an error, but I became convinced that for that specific property, there was a benefit to owning Trust Points. So I bought a small number of Trust Points. I have never seen any other property where I had difficulty making a reservation with 100% Elected Points.

I really think it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Do you have any enrolled weeks? If so, renting points is preferable (IMO) to buying Trust Points. Can you tell us a little more about your goals?

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Salesman can’t confirm that by buying trust pts that I there is TRULY any additional inventory vs what I already see. Also they couldn’t confirm once I use the small allotment of pts I buy that my “increased” inventory wouldn’t just return to what it was. Thoughts?

None!


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I bought a small amount of Trust Points because there is a specific property (Ritz Carlton St. Thomas) where I have seen multiple instances where it required a percentage of the reservation to be Trust Points. I do not know if that was an error, but I became convinced that for that specific property, there was a benefit to owning Trust Points. So I bought a small number of Trust Points. I have never seen any other property where I had difficulty making a reservation with 100% Elected Points.

I really think it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Do you have any enrolled weeks? If so, renting points is preferable (IMO) to buying Trust Points. Can you tell us a little more about your goals?

Best,

Greg

That was true years ago, but no longer.


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I bought a small amount of Trust Points because there is a specific property (Ritz Carlton St. Thomas) where I have seen multiple instances where it required a percentage of the reservation to be Trust Points. I do not know if that was an error, but I became convinced that for that specific property, there was a benefit to owning Trust Points. So I bought a small number of Trust Points. I have never seen any other property where I had difficulty making a reservation with 100% Elected Points.

I really think it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Do you have any enrolled weeks? If so, renting points is preferable (IMO) to buying Trust Points. Can you tell us a little more about your goals?

Best,

Greg
Hi Greg,
I have 4 Legacy weeks enrolled totaling just over 10000 Destination Points. My goal is to have MAXIMUM flexibility in terms of availability within the system for ALL current and future properties added to the trust. I was hoping you responded as I thought you had a similar dilemma and had elected to buy some trust points. If I add a few “rented” trust points to my account each yr is that the equivalent of buying say a 1000 trust points in terms of “added benefit”? Do I lose any “added” benefit once the rented trust points are used up? Can I specify whether the rented trust points or legacy converted trust points get used first, or does it even make a difference?
 

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They are trying to tell me I won’t have access to the new properties added to the trust if I don’t buy some “pure” trust points, though I don’t buy this....
 

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Salesman can’t confirm that by buying trust pts that I there is TRULY any additional inventory vs what I already see. Also they couldn’t confirm once I use the small allotment of pts I buy that my “increased” inventory wouldn’t just return to what it was. Thoughts?

They are trying to tell me I won’t have access to the new properties added to the trust if I don’t buy some “pure” trust points, though I don’t buy this....
Theoretically there is a chance of a small difference but in reality there should be no real difference in practice. I wouldn't buy unless something changed if this were the only reason to buy.
 
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They are trying to tell me I won’t have access to the new properties added to the trust if I don’t buy some “pure” trust points, though I don’t buy this....

You’re right, it’s BS


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You’re right, it’s BS


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Have you tried making a reservation at Marriott's Waikoloa Ocean Club in Hawaii with enrolled points? This is a trust resort, so if they accept 100% enrolled points there then one would assume they would be accepted at ANY Marriott Resort.

I don't know the true answer to this question but I thought I would throw it out there in case someone wants to take the time to test this theory out and post the results.




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Have you tried making a reservation at Marriott's Waikoloa Ocean Club in Hawaii with enrolled points? This is a trust resort, so if they accept 100% enrolled points there then one would assume they would be accepted at ANY Marriott Resort.

I don't know the true answer to this question but I thought I would throw it out there in case someone wants to take the time to test this theory out and post the results.




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It's wide open for Dec using enrolled points but I don't think that means anything since anytime a trust owner takes time from the weeks side where an enrolled owner has taken points, an equivalent amount of access would be available to the DC side from the trust inventory.
 
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As SeaDoc said, the “you gotta have Trust points” is a sales spin that has been in play for as long as we have been MVC owners. All evidence suggests it is BS.
 

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I had the whole trust points vs enrolled points nonsense put to rest when I had Marriott put it in writing that there was no difference between the points. I was working with corporate on buying two weeks and while in negotiations with them I was at Ko Olina and a salesman tried to tell me I would not have access to trust properties. Corporate at my request put it in writing for me to even consider buying and the salesman apologized to me because he was “misinformed “.
 
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Have you tried making a reservation at Marriott's Waikoloa Ocean Club in Hawaii with enrolled points? This is a trust resort, so if they accept 100% enrolled points there then one would assume they would be accepted at ANY Marriott Resort.

I don't know the true answer to this question but I thought I would throw it out there in case someone wants to take the time to test this theory out and post the results.




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Funny you should ask, I’m using my enrolled points to spend two weeks in a two bedroom oceanfront next year at waikaloa. I own 20000 enrolled points, NO trust points and never will!


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