LisaH
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We will be at least another year before our number is called. No need to abandon now I guess
I wouldn't include the self-driving option as part of your analysis, but otherwise yeah, it's kind of as I'd expected. To up the range from 220mi to 310mi, which is still kind of an unfortunate number (5 hours in the car at 60mph??? -- hardly road trip worthy), adds $9K. IMO, they're missing the boat on the battery configurations. 310mi range doesn't really buy one much over 220 if they're using the car as a commuter (only have to charge every 7th day vs every 5th day??. Big deal.)So the car is now up to $57K if the buyer wants a long range battery, "premium" package, and self driving capability. Well, the car is still not for the masses.
I wonder what the range gets reduced to if you run 80 mph instead of 60? I came upon a Model S the other day that was going about 60 in an 80 mph zone. I know from our Prius experience that it gets about 42 mpg at 80 and 50 mpg at 60 mph and 0ver 60 mpg at 45. I'd expect similar numbers from a Tesla. Which is to say that standard 220 mile range at 60 is likely to be closer to 160 or so at 80 mph. I guess you'd just have to be happy that you'd look REALLY COOL to all those drivers passing you.I wouldn't include the self-driving option as part of your analysis, but otherwise yeah, it's kind of as I'd expected. To up the range from 220mi to 310mi, which is still kind of an unfortunate number (5 hours in the car at 60mph???
You mean the euphoria and/or stock price?I think the bubble is about to burst
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You mean the euphoria and/or stock price?
I wonder what the range gets reduced to if you run 80 mph instead of 60? I came upon a Model S the other day that was going about 60 in an 80 mph zone. I know from our Prius experience that it gets about 42 mpg at 80 and 50 mpg at 60 mph and 0ver 60 mpg at 45. I'd expect similar numbers from a Tesla. Which is to say that standard 220 mile range at 60 is likely to be closer to 160 or so at 80 mph. I guess you'd just have to be happy that you'd look REALLY COOL to all those drivers passing you.
Jim
About the larger battery - I'm not sure I would want it but that distance is just about the distance between LA and Vegas, fyi. So it would be especially convenient for a large number of Telsa owners
There is a range calculator online - range is determined by speed, weather, wheel size, and whether or not you use the a/c. Other factors that aren't shown on the calculator are: whether you're towing or not and hills.
https://www.tesla.com/models - scroll down to the range calculator. Looks like speed changes the mileage by about 5-15 miles per 5-10 degrees F.
I think the one you saw was just a slow driver or else they were going far and wanted to save battery for the range. I see Teslas every day and they go fast! Just depends how far you're driving. I would think only for long roadtrips would you want to go slower. Not everyone drives 80 mph
What's the problem?I was talking with an owner about mile per charge (we both had 90Ds) and when I told him I'm getting about 320 MPC, he said "not me, I drive it like I stole it".
There are 2 kinds of people who drive Teslas; those who drive for the speed (my neighbor) and those who drive for the MPC (me).
Disgusted with the minor problem I'm having with mine. They can't seem to figure out what's causing the problem and I'm do fed up I'd be willing to give it back to them. 320 MPC is nice, and the car is cool, but every time I get in and start it up and hear the problem, I get annoyed.
That would annoy me no end-I like radio. It shouldn't be that hard to isolate/remedy. It would have to either be internal to the radio, or power or antenna intermittent short. Does it short out if listening to a disc or usb plugged in? Has the mfr offered to swap out the radio? Does the car need to be moving? Not sure if this would be a deal killer, but it would aggravate me, like it has you.To make a long story short, when I get in and the car starts, the radio (regular FM) cuts in and out. Doesn't happen every time, but most of the time. Sometimes longer periods of time than others. Very annoying.
They tell me it's a software issue.
No they won't be free. But overall it's still a cost savings for most people.I know there are fast electric charging stations springing up, but doubt they are free in the future.
Agreed. Highly unlikely it's a software issue, or more owners would have the same issue and a fix would likely have been released. Problem shouldn't be difficult to debug.
The last refuge of a lousy designer. I don't know how many times I was told that in my 50 years in the aircraft development business. Often true but, it shouldn't happen to a good design.
In this case, I really doubt "the software defense" because it that were true, it would be a generic problem and happening more frequently. Software doesn't one day decide to change some zeros to ones in one car. It's more likely that something is defective that contains some software someplace and is causing the problem.
I had a wild experience in my old BMW X3 when everything seemingly started going haywire, windows deciding on their own to go up or down, wipers on and off, radio on or off. They wound up replacing the whole instrument cluster which is a node in the electrical system.
Keep hounding them
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