Daytona Cancellations.

[Braindead]

I think it’s a little early to fully tell yet.
Several resorts are closed or not completely back up and running from hurricane damage. All Margaritaville owners are looking elsewhere.
Some of the reservations from the mega renters closed down probably went straight to Extra Holidays.
All the phantom availability when Voyager went live.

Glad to hear some have already seen improvement.
I put ALL the blame on Wyndham on how they let the mega renters run wild for so long!!
All they had to do was limit GCs.
Close loopholes of getting Platinum accounts without direct purchases. They closed them now for the most part after some of the mega renters are out.

Limit the number of resale points getting VIP benefits to the number of points bought directly.
You buy 1,000,000 points directly you can add 1,000,000 resale points. That one would have made a big difference.

 

[Baby Jane]

Well we didn't recieve a 2nd email saying we were cancelled so I assume we are a go. Will definately call the resort to confirm a few days before we leave.

 

[wjappraise]

Well we didn't recieve a 2nd email saying we were cancelled so I assume we are a go. Will definately call the resort to confirm a few days before we leave.

I hope all goes well for your trip. Ask around the various employees on hand about why there was the inventory issue. You'd be surprised how in-the-know the staff can be (other than sales). If it's new website driven, you can be sure they are outraged as we are.

 

[chapjim]

I think it’s a little early to fully tell yet.
Several resorts are closed or not completely back up and running from hurricane damage. All Margaritaville owners are looking elsewhere.
Some of the reservations from the mega renters closed down probably went straight to Extra Holidays.
All the phantom availability when Voyager went live.

Glad to hear some have already seen improvement.
I put ALL the blame on Wyndham on how they let the mega renters run wild for so long!!
All they had to do was limit GCs.
Close loopholes of getting Platinum accounts without direct purchases. They closed them now for the most part after some of the mega renters are out.

Limit the number of resale points getting VIP benefits to the number of points bought directly.
You buy 1,000,000 points directly you can add 1,000,000 resale points. That one would have made a big difference.

Limiting guest confirmations would only bump the price by $100, not enough to put a serious cramp on rentals. If I were able to get a discount and upgrade, I'd happily eat the $100.

Limiting the number of resale points getting VIP benefits would do the trick -- if Wyndham's computer system could handle it.

I wonder how many Platinum accounts didn't involve retail purchases and what impact they really had.

 

[Braindead]

Limiting guest confirmations would only bump the price by $100, not enough to put a serious cramp on rentals. If I were able to get a discount and upgrade, I'd happily eat the $100.

Limiting the number of resale points getting VIP benefits would do the trick -- if Wyndham's computer system could handle it.

I wonder how many Platinum accounts didn't involve retail purchases and what impact they really had.

By limit GCs I mean you can’t buy more or the price jumps significantly more than $100.00[$500.00 or more]

When resale deeds are transferred you can’t go over the points you bought directly. Wyndham would just give you a second membership number. It takes them months to complete a transfer. One more little step should be able to sneak in there

From interpreting from what some posted. When mega renters exploded in the past 3-5 years most of the mega renters accounts didn’t involve buying 1,000,000 points directly. Most of the accounts setup by mega renters involved Pahio converted weeks. I would say that loophole has been shutdown completely. But someone will say it’s not completely closed. So I will say almost completely closed.

 

[paxsarah]

or the winner could be the loads of non VIP owners and VIP owners who like to book somewhere between 10 months and 60 days before check in and don't mind paying full points value but don't want to have to plan out vacations at exactly 10 or 13 months.

I hope for us non-VIPs there's going to be a sweet spot in the 90-61 day window where we're able to borrow from next year's points but the upgrade window hasn't opened yet. It will completely depend on whether there's any decent inventory available at that point, though.

 

[Baby Jane]

Well well well. I honestly thought Wyndham was having overbooking issues but shock of shocks after the email went out and I assume some owners volunteered there weeks. Suddenly extra holidays has inventory during speed week. Still not even an odd day available for owners during the whole 2 week period Coincidence maybe.

 

[ilya]

Well well well. I honestly thought Wyndham was having overbooking issues but shock of shocks after the email went out and I assume some owners volunteered there weeks. Suddenly extra holidays has inventory during speed week. Still not even an odd day available for owners during the whole 2 week period Coincidence maybe.

Did you have any problems at the resort.? Did it look like it was at capacity?

 

[vacationhopeful]

And that surprises you? Wyndham management is NOT a hospitality company ... it is a FOR PROFIT to benefit the shareholders. At 60 days inside of checkin .. they can TAKE unbooked inventory for their RENTAL PROFIT.

Race Week at Daytona? BIG MONEY.

 

[Baby Jane]

And that surprises you? Wyndham management is NOT a hospitality company ... it is a FOR PROFIT to benefit the shareholders. At 60 days inside of checkin .. they can TAKE unbooked inventory for their RENTAL PROFIT.

Race Week at Daytona? BIG MONEY.

We did end up getting the extra night we were missing but not until the wee hours of the morning of check in day. Trip went well and even thouh reservation was slit 4x (we added extra 2 days on the end too) we only changed rooms 1x. Not bad for speed weeks.

 

[Baby Jane]

Did you have any problems at the resort.? Did it look like it was at capacity?

No all went fine

 

[Dave Landry]

We are here now
Not only did it seem like there was plenty of empty rooms when we checked in, but we were just able to score a few more days for this weekend and into next week as well as 4 days starting the week of bike week.

 

[Baby Jane]

It was pretty full for most of our stay but we don't spend the whole day at the pool so it wasn't a big deal.

 

[55plus]

What's with the new fancy luggage carts for South Tower? There are only about 6 of them, but you can also use the other luggage carts. It appears to me that the North Tower and South Tower separating and are run differently. Cable TV in the South Tower and Satellite TV in the North Tower. We've been here since December 2nd and stayed in both tower throughout our stay. We started out our stay with one key-card for everything and now we have three. A chip card for South Tower parking and entrance into the building from parking, a different chip card for our room and a magnetic strip card for North Tower parking and entrance. There is a tour group (Yankee Doodle) consisting of 3 buses from New York - a lot of elderly couples with walkers. Wyndham must be making a mint from this. And they had to have secured the rooms prior to 60 days out in order to do this.

 

[Baby Jane]

What's with the new fancy luggage carts for South Tower? There are only about 6 of them, but you can also use the other luggage carts. It appears to me that the North Tower and South Tower separating and are run differently. Cable TV in the South Tower and Satellite TV in the North Tower. We've been here since December 2nd and stayed in both tower throughout our stay. We started out our stay with one key-card for everything and now we have three. A chip card for South Tower parking and entrance into the building from parking, a different chip card for our room and a magnetic strip card for North Tower parking and entrance. There is a tour group (Yankee Doodle) consisting of 3 buses from New York - a lot of elderly couples with walkers. Wyndham must be making a mint from this. And they had to have secured the rooms prior to 60 days out in order to do this.

We talked to a guy who owned there and Apparently the full time owners think Wyndham wastes money. Notice only North Tower has fresh paint. He said it took them forever to repair pool because the fulltime owners didn't want to spend the money. Also I assume thats why the golf is closed as there is a bi crack on the steps up to it. It didnt look like anythin was wrong but noticed it when I went round the lazy river

 

[Braindead]

What's with the new fancy luggage carts for South Tower? There are only about 6 of them, but you can also use the other luggage carts. It appears to me that the North Tower and South Tower separating and are run differently. Cable TV in the South Tower and Satellite TV in the North Tower. We've been here since December 2nd and stayed in both tower throughout our stay. We started out our stay with one key-card for everything and now we have three. A chip card for South Tower parking and entrance into the building from parking, a different chip card for our room and a magnetic strip card for North Tower parking and entrance. There is a tour group (Yankee Doodle) consisting of 3 buses from New York - a lot of elderly couples with walkers. Wyndham must be making a mint from this. And they had to have secured the rooms prior to 60 days out in order to do this.

We talked to a guy who owned there and Apparently the full time owners think Wyndham wastes money. Notice only North Tower has fresh paint. He said it took them forever to repair pool because the fulltime owners didn't want to spend the money. Also I assume thats why the golf is closed as there is a bi crack on the steps up to it. It didnt look like anythin was wrong but noticed it when I went round the lazy river

Ocean Walk has two HOAs that is probably why you see a difference in the two towers.

 

[ilya]

What's with the new fancy luggage carts for South Tower? There are only about 6 of them, but you can also use the other luggage carts. It appears to me that the North Tower and South Tower separating and are run differently. Cable TV in the South Tower and Satellite TV in the North Tower. We've been here since December 2nd and stayed in both tower throughout our stay. We started out our stay with one key-card for everything and now we have three. A chip card for South Tower parking and entrance into the building from parking, a different chip card for our room and a magnetic strip card for North Tower parking and entrance. There is a tour group (Yankee Doodle) consisting of 3 buses from New York - a lot of elderly couples with walkers. Wyndham must be making a mint from this. And they had to have secured the rooms prior to 60 days out in order to do this.

I was there 2 weeks ago when the buses were rolling in. The Yankee tour has been doing this for a long time and not just in Daytona. They had well over 100 people. According to the people I talked to they booked in the summer and had till recent to book. Wyndham probably held on to the rooms and then canceled at last minute, reason for the disappearing inventory.. . And, they all got oceanfront, not view and cost her $2,000 for 2 weeks. That included the hotels on the way up and back and a meal or 2. I didn't get my oceanfront !!!

 

[Baby Jane]

Ocean Walk has two HOAs that is probably why you see a difference in the two towers.

Well timeshare is all North Tower and so many floors in South tower. Some of South tower is privately owned. I think thats why HOA's split. Anyway if i was owner I would be mad my HOA didn't want to paint and upkeep my investment or home One thing you can say about Wyndham resorts they do refurbish and update when needed.

 

[Braindead]

Well timeshare is all North Tower and so many floors in South tower. Some of South tower is privately owned. I think thats why HOA's split. Anyway if i was owner I would be mad my HOA didn't want to paint and upkeep my investment or home One thing you can say about Wyndham resorts they do refurbish and update when needed.

My post was based on the Sticky thread on 2017 MFs
Ocean Walk —MF was 6.21
Ocean Walk II - MF was 5.65
I assume there is 2 HOAs with each having it’s own units or tower

 

[Wolf&Sprite]

My post was based on the Sticky thread on 2017 MFs
Ocean Walk —MF was 6.21
Ocean Walk II - MF was 5.65
I assume there is 2 HOAs with each having it’s own units or tower

At 56 cents difference maybe one just included the program fee and the other one didn't.

 

[Braindead]

At 56 cents difference maybe one just included the program fee and the other one didn't.

I have also seen Ocean Walk and Ocean Walk II as resale listings.

 

[Jan M.]

At 56 cents difference maybe one just included the program fee and the other one didn't.

Probably not. It is typical that different buildings at the same resort will have different maintenance fees because they were built at different times. I know this to be true at Ocean Boulevard in Myrtle Beach and Grand Desert in Las Vegas.