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Help me understand...bought Grand Islander from tour...

Discussion in 'Hilton Grand Vacations Club / HGVC' started by G33KIDAD, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. SmithOp

    SmithOp TUG Member

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    I gave you bad information on PH bookings, it only applies to Open Season. If you can find a unit available in club season you should be able to book it.

    From the Club Rules:

    The Open Season Reservation Window for penthouse accommodations at GW Vacations Suites (also known as Grand Waikikian by Hilton Grand Vacations Club) and GI Vacations Suites is limited to owners of penthouse units at each respective resort and the two night minimum booking does not apply .



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  2. Anthony Schmid

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    Not sure if it's a great idea to post all the prices on Facebook groups. The more people who get elite status or elite premiere status through Scotland may mean HGVC will shut it down. I hope they don't retroactively take away elite privileges either.
     
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    Roughly 15 - 20 % of Scotland owners are with HGVC. The other 80% use their fixed week. Hilton did say they want more owners to join HGVC for the inventory. This also is similar to the Florida - Gulf properties, where it is almost impossible to get in their because of the same reason


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    Yes I understand that. Are you sure elite status (gained from Scotland resales) will be grandfathered in if they decide to block Scotland resales for counting toward elite status in the future? I don't see the reason for telling all the owner updates sales people this either. It's like bringing unnecessary attention.

    From what I gathered from old posts, this idea of resales counting for elite status was nicked for US properties even from authorized resales agents. Some folks had difficulty maintaining their elite status that they formerly had. Of course correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Facebook is not a good idea, period.

    Cheers.
     
  7. Anthony Schmid

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    There are many people who want to sell their timeshare. Where would you goto?

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    If you instant message individuals specifically I think that is fine. Are we talking about educating people on loopholes to get elite or reselling. Those are 2 different things. I'm all for giving info on reselling and renting.
     
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    A reputable timeshare broker. Certainly not Facebook.

    Cheers.
     
  10. Anthony Schmid

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    That's cool. Facebook probably sells more timeshares.

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    Cool. Wouldn't know. Have never had a Facebook account. Good for them.

    Cheers.
     
  12. alwysonvac

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    @CalGalTraveler, can you expand on what this means? I own at elara (platinum studio plus, 3500 annual pts) and am a little nervous about this Apollo/Diamond purchase situation...
     
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    I have heard that Elara is not HGVC developed (it was developed by Westgate) so it could not be traded-in similar to GI which was developed by a third party but managed by HTVC. OTOH this may be old info as I heard that Blackstone and HGVC bought this out so perhaps it is now accepted for trade-ins?

    I am still pondering whether it is better to own an affiliate or better to stick with HGVC developed resorts with the rumored Apollo/Diamond change.

    (IMO Elara is my favorite HGVC Vegas resort.)
     
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    When HGV and Blackstone bought out the other partners, they announced the had formed a new joint venture to make the purchase. That joint venture in turn pays HGV to manage resort and sell the units. While I don't have first hand experience, but based on what i have heard in the Facebook groups, i think you can trade an Elara unit in if your upgrading to a higher point Elara unit, but you can't trade it in for a different resort.
     
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    This is how I understand it as well.
     
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    As an owner at HGVC Elara, that is what I have been told at “owner update” presentations.
     
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    @CalGalTraveler @dayooper & @1Kflyerguy, what would you see as the benefits of one over the other (affiliate vs HGVC developed) should the Apollo buyout rumors turn out to be true? Thanks in advance!
     
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    @Hobokie For certain of the Florida Gulf resorts, Pacific Palisades which are owned by another TS company and certain other affiliates my perception is that their boards run more independently and HGVC has less control so Apollo/Diamond cannot cannot swoop in and raise maintenance fees easily if they acquire HGVC.
     
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    I hate to keep fueling the speculation fire but HGV can certainly increase management fees, which will leave the affiliates with a decision to stay or get a new mgt company in. We know Apollo/Diamond charges higher fees, and we know HGV has a penchant for raising fees every year. These fees are all separate from maintenance fees, but could spur a change.

    Check out the discussions on Kauai Beach Villas, they are changing management companies from Grand Pacific to Wyndham.


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    Can someone confirm this? I was under impression as well that as of 2019 only property bought direct from HGVC counted towards Elite status

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    Yes. This is correct.

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    Yes, if you use the HGVC agent. It will not count if you go through someone else.
     
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    I don't have a strong feeling for owning at an affiliate vs developed resort with regards to a possible buyout. There are so many unknowns, that i would not take any action one way or the other.

    I read last week that HGV reported "strong interest" from potential investors. Its really hard to predict how any investor or merger will change things.
     
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