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HGVC RCI trade - that you feel are worth the points

Discussion in 'Hilton Grand Vacations Club / HGVC' started by Panina, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Panina

    Panina TUG Review Crew: Elite TUG Member

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    What resorts in the USA have you traded into recently using your hgvc Rci portal account that you felt were worth using your points for?

    Dvc and NYC hgvc are the obvious good ones to me.
     
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    We have never done RCI trade. Then again, we own at DVC and HGVC NYC :)

    Cheers.
     
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    Great question @Panina.

    Trades:

    * Fiesta Americana Cabo. This was before RCI started allowing exorbitant resort fees and AI was still $80/pp.
    * New Years week at Peacock Suites at Disneyland. Although this is a step down in quality we are not in the room much at Disney so less important than good location, event week, and 2 bdrms. We preferred the Worldmark/Wyndham Anaheim because it seemed nicer but it was not available via the portal for the dates.
    * Back into HGVC for Lagoon Tower and Blvd Vegas for half the points. But now there are resort fees which limit value so might as well trade directly via HGVC.

    Potential future trades (when we can get more vacation time + available):

    * Tradewinds cruise
    * Snowbird, Utah (ski)
    * Four Seasons Villamoura
    * Several Cabo resorts that are very nice with no mandatory AI or resort fees.
    * Worldmark/Wyndham for Zion/southern Utah hiking
    * Florida Keys (Galleon or an II resort)
    * Crane Barbados (fewer points)

    Any gems in Aruba? or do we need to look at II?

    Also have an II list but we can only do cash getaways and ACC.
     
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    I’ve done both DVC and NYC but that was before I became owners if both DVC and hgvc nyc :)

    If I really wanted to stretch my hgvc points I would do NYC again. 2.400 points for a week in a studio it’s hard to beat but it comes with limitations as you can’t change the booking and supply is limited and you don’t know for sure when they will open for your dates.

    Don’t know if I would do other places. Maybe HI if I could book something not available or sold out with HGvC.

    The vast majority of my use of points is in the hgvc system rarely in rci. It’s just not worth it.

    Also I have a regular RCI account too and I use that to book whatever I want/need.
     
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    The Manhattan Club now has ridiculous resort/housekeeping fees but we only had to use 2200 for a studio and 3400 for a 1 bedroom. Considering how much a tiny hotel room cost in Manhattan and the incredible location of the Manhattan Club, 2200 points was an incredible deal.

    But I think the daily resort fee is now $54 (?). Plus however much the current RCI exchange fee is. Not to mention if you need to park your car. So now the great deal it use to be.
     
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    A few years ago we went to Samoset which was a good RCI exchange. Also went to Boardwalk Villas, which was good, but a lot harder to get these days, yes?
     
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    I have traded back into the Hilton Club and west 57th in NYC for some nightly stays for much less point cost per night. DVC was worth it even though I prefer the HGVC Orlando resorts. (We stayed at Saratoga Springs). back when DVC offered more options we stayed at the beach club, wilderness lodge and boardwalk and that was a great deal. I haven't been able to trade back into Hawaii and haven't really done Vegas. Most of the resorts are a step down so we dont trade into them. For this fall we booked a couple nights at snowbird since its close and fun. Before resorts added resort fee's we used to use it more, now its less and less. I did call the flamingo asking if a club member would have the rci resort fee waived for a 3 night stay and they said no. It would have been a similar booking fee and used less points but the resort fee is lame.
     
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  8. Panina

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    The resort fees when we trade back into hgvc thru rci is like paying a tax. We paid our dues, we use hgvc portal and pay the rci fees and hgvc doesn’t recognize us as members for the trade. Many times there are hgvc weeks on rci that are not available on hgvc which is a further insult.
     
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    My family of four traded into a one bedroom there for Memorial Day Weekend. Yes, the daily "because we can" fee stinks. But they can get by with it because of the location, and considering the location it was on okay deal. When I look at the point values on the new bHC properties coming to NYC, I have less reason to complain about the Manhattan Club "because we can" fee.

    I feel I got a good deal trading my HGVC points on RCI, but I now own a "trader" timeshare enrolled directly in RCI points that is enrolled in RCI platinum. Sometimes it gets me better value than trading HGVC points on RCI, but not always. In my situation I thought if I was using more than 1/3 to 1/2 of my points on RCI -- it might make more sense to own something directly enrolled in RCI as opposed to using my HGVC points (I have cheaper HGVC points). If you have high MF HGVC properties, I think it could be hard to get value trading into RCI.
     
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    We sort of 1/2 lucked in to a Mexican TS with RCI points. The resort gets their pound of flesh by charging their all inclusive fee of plus/minus $100 USD per day per person, so they only charge us $199 per year for MF's for the 84,000 RCI points we have - so basically these RCI points are almost free to us. The resort by the way is Sandos (NOT Sandals) in Playa Del Carmen. So we are still using these RCI points to book some holidays, but I far prefer booking HGVC into HGVC resorts and staying away from RCI. The booking fee of at least $300 per week for RCI is irritating, but the big problem is that it is not refundable if the reservation is changed or cancelled. Also you can buy insurance to protect your points in case of cancellation but at more than $80 it may not be worth it depending how many points are at risk. So in total the upfront, non changeable, non refundable fee is about $400 US which is very close to $600 CDN at this time. It's not bad if you luck in to a good RCI for this $600 per week, but we have had a few times lately when life got in the way and we needed to cancel. It seems that a lot of RCI resorts are about 40 years old with about 15 coats of paint, and they do allow resort owners to post fake reviews, so you do not have any where near as much assurance of getting good quality accommodation as you do with HGVC. But if you do want to trade in to RCI it might be an idea to look at purchasing one of these Sandos TS on the secondary market instead of using up your much more valuable, in my opinion, HGVC points. Sandos is also RTU (right to use as opposed to deeded) with a set term, so your entire exposure is the $199 MF's times the number of years left on the contract
     
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    I agree with all your stated concerns on costs and fees. However, the costs you describe sound extreme to me. You must be paying more for having a foreign timeshare. RCI exchanges for me are $239 per week (on and off HGVC). I think insurance is around $60 to $70, but I seldom buy it. I use most of my RCI points for long weekend trips within driving distance where there are no HGVC properties and will use for going to Disney or where there are no HGVC option I can get into. I own a Massanutten timeshare that gets 137k RCI points per year with a current MF of $855.

    Headed tomorrow to spend thee nights at Virginia Beach.
     
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    I desire thee has't a most wondrous timeth at Virginia Beach
     
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    A few years ago, we spent a week at the Quarter House in New Orleans,
    and went to the N.O. Jazz Festival where we saw Billy Joel.

    This year...
    We spent a week outside Yellowstone at The Timbers, Island Park, ID,
    with a week at Outer Banks Beach Club, Kill Devil Hills, NC, coming up.

    So, I'd have to say that it's indeed worth it.

    .
     
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    I have a friend from a Disney board as well as from here that has done this and really knows the nuances well. This is something I've thought about and want to learn. Seems that there are much better values than HGVC to use for RCI traders.

    Cheers.
     
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    @escanoe this seems like it's relatively close to being on topic that I'm not hijacking thread, but if it's hard to get a good value trading hgvc into RCI, what do you all consider to be a good trader. if there's already a good thread on that somewhere else, as I'd appreciate a pointer to that as well.

    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
     
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    They were probably quoting the fees in Canadian Dollars. RCI will only bill Canadians in Canadian dollars, and they use a disadvantageous exchange rate, which adds insult to injury on their already high fees.
     
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    I stand corrected. I just contacted RCI and the booking fee is $335 CDN and the points insurance is $90 CDN, so the fees that we stand to loose are $425 CDN if we make ANY changes or cancellations.
     

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