windje2000
TUG Member
I'm not on here to further aggravate owners, so please take it down a notch or 2 in your defensiveness & rudeness towards me. I'll be happy to clarify as much as I can.... but...Wow!!! You are a very angry person SueDonJ, you are the one who makes these "encounters" distasteful...You obviously know everything and don't need my help. Curious Sue why haven't you called the company and gotten the "official" down low, and posted your official response from MVW? You think I am condescending & dismissive? Why, because I am giving you answers you dislike! I in no way have been condescending & dismissive. Straight forward, yes! You owners have the ability to pick up the phone and call to get answers to your questions. If the person on the phone doesn't know the answer, ask to speak to someone who does know. Email - owner.services@vacationclub.com. Interval decided what they were going to cancel, it wasn't just an II mass cancellations that occurred. MVC had to make a decisions to keep owners safe, a HURRICANE was coming, they closed the resorts! Everyone got canceled. Did you know that weeks owners lost their week if they didn't have travel protection? II wouldn't take any deposits. Do you have any idea how many weeks owners who did NOT get ANY compensations? There was no secret behind the scene swapping going on. Everyone lost out and unfortunately it was horrible and sad to say the least!
It's very obvious that you are all confused.
windje2000 - QUOTE=Those of us who are DC members who don't elect points should be aware of the fact that we are no longer members of II.
This is an incorrect statement. If you are enrolled into the Destinations Program you are a member of II. Why are you under the impression that you are no longer a member of II if you don't elect points? Your II account isn't through the Destinations Program it's still through II. Even if you never decide to use II, you still have an active paid account with Interval, that you could use if you wanted. There is no such thing as the....DClub Exchange inventory, including DClub II inventory. This doesn't exist. When owners 'Elect' their weeks for DP that is what frees up inventory for DP.
There's a reason for the existence of the 'corporate account' and the fact that all DC members had to change from their old accounts to new ones.[/QUOTE]
The only reason you get a new II account called a 'corporate account' is so you aren't charged the $139 exchange fee if you go to another Marriott. If you use your II account and you have deposits in your II account that are pre-destinations then those deposits are still charged the $139 exchange fee. Once those deposits are used, then your old II account is canceled and not active any more. That is the only reason for issuing a new II #.
The yearly club dues that you pay each year covers your Interval account. It is still an Interval account and it is no different than your Interval account that you had pre-destinations, you just get a new II number, and now you don't pay the $139 exchange fee if you go to another Marriott. You have access to exactly the same inventory that any other Owner has who uses II as their exchange company, regardless if it is a pre-destinations, or you pay for your own II account, or you aren't in the DP program...it's all the same Interval account.
Most likely... the reason in the slow process with II deposits is due to the date you are choosing to deposit with II. How many of you know how to look at the TDI on the resort you own on Intervalworld.com? Do you know how to decide what date to pick? Do you even know how to use II? Had an owner 2 days ago who has a Platinum GV and wants to go to Cypress Dec 8, 2017. I get a hold of II lock off his GV ask if he can get a 2BR at CY with his 1 BR... yes it is available and because it was within 59 days there was no upgrade fee. This owner got a 2 BR at Cypress Harbour with his 1 BR at GV.
You all want something official from MVW so call up and get it. Ask questions, but don't be angry with me because you don't like my responses. You can either take the information I am giving and put it to use, or go about your day and ignore it.
I have no direct contractual relationship with II. Contracts require something called consideration, something which I have not paid to or otherwise provided II. My contract is with DClub. You seem to suggest that MVC is II's agent in offering these memberships, which would indeed provide the contractual nexus you allude to.
I may well be an indirect member of II through access via the 'corporate account' (MVC terminology, not mine) and, as you allege, may be subject to the same II rules and regulations as any direct member of II, but that ignores the fact that I am also
1. subject to the rules of DClub, and
2. subject to the contract or relationship between MVC and II regarding the 'corporate account.'
You allege that the only reason for the separate corporate account is to facilitate that payment of fees to the exchange company. Coding a field with some 'if this then that' ("ITTT") logic would be a much much simpler way of accomplishing exactly the same objective.
There is clearly another reason for partitioning the DClub II members from the remainder of II. What might that be?
The creation of a partitioned DClub II member and inventory pool facilitates management of the pool of Marriott occupancy deposited by DClub members.
You allege that indirect members of II have access to the same inventory as direct members. That may be true, but the question is whether or not both direct and indirect members of II are seeing only Marriott inventory that remains after DClub takes what it believes it is due from the occupancy deposited in the corporate account, or otherwise manages that pool for its own benefit.
What your post fails to address is the proposition that MVC considered its broad powers to engage in what I concluded my post with:
I am starting to wonder if the observation I made in that old post is exactly how MVC is justifying its behavior.
In other words,
1. DClub members are not members of II but rather members of DClub.
2. MVC has broad powers to manage DClub Exchange inventory, including DClub II inventory.
3. These broad powers provide MVC with the ability to consider the HHI resorts as a portfolio.
4. These broad powers allow MVC to manage DClub exchange reservations (including II reservations) between and among the various HHI resorts virtually any way they want to.
The only change I would make to these would be to use the term indirect or derivative in describing the II membership in item 1.
Finally, let me make this so clear that even you can understand it. Your remarks generally and regarding SueDonJ in particular are offensive, shed no light on the answers and simply serve to obfuscate the truth with bombastic argle bargle.