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Maui Bay Villas by Hilton Grand Vacations

Discussion in 'Hilton Grand Vacations Club / HGVC' started by holdaer, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Sandy VDH

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    This is basically the google maps image of the resort. The drainage gulch it to the right. I've included the beach area with the retaining walls. the broad sand area is in front of the gulch. Note googlemaps has the gulch in the wrong place it is farther to the right.

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    Was wondering how Hilton intends to 'capture' people to do timeshare tours of this property.
     
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    While they are at other properties such as Oahu and BI.
     
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    I’m sure they will offer some sort of incentive for people to stay there. VIP package or the like.
     
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    Right. "You seem to like visiting Hawai'i. Have you heard about our new property on Maui?"
    "Cool. Is it in that popular part...uh...Ka'anapali?"
    "No, it's in an even better location. And priced accordingly, of course...check it out!"

    Cheers.
     
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    I am sure that they will also market this to their Japanese base and at at their kiosk at Narita airport.

    Will have to get a VIP or bounceback offer in 2020 for this. A stay would be well worth sitting through the presentation plus I wouldn't mind learning more about it.
     
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    Many locals in Maui are never happy about any development that is not community minded. They have already taxed the hell out of timeshares in Maui because nobody that pays those taxes gets to vote it down. They do not want tourists. Yet a large portion of Hawaii, especially Maui's economy is based on tourism. It is like the dog biting that hand that feeds you.
     
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    Oh, I know. It's not at all unexpected. But I can appreciate the disillusionment of the locals for what is (as several of them said) a rich persons' luxury timeshare.

    Cheers.
     
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    I had to double check the date of this post to make sure somebody wasn’t reviving an old thread. :p
     
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    I'll be at the Marriott there in late June also. Happy to hear Hilton may finally have something in Maui, but I'm having a hard time imagining that location being comparable to my 2-bedroom oceanfront at the Marriott. Plus, you can buy a 2-bedroom OF at the Marriott for about $32k on the secondary market. If a Hilton is ~100k, again... hard to see how that works out.
     
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    Comparing resale to retail pricing is an apples to oranges comparison. I'm quite sure within a year after it opens we will see 2BR resales for way, way less than $32K.

    Kurt
     
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    Perhaps. But if Hilton Hawaiian Village is any example, probably not. Prices there, from Hilton, are roughly 3X what they are resale (Redweek), and, unlike Marriott, there's no difference (no "enrolling"). Same points, etc. And since the Hilton-Maui is a 3-phase development not completed until 2027, buying a homeweek there may be quite pricey for a while.
     
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    Wonder if the booking window will be similar to Grand Islander?
     
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    I would expect that to be the case (but I will be happy if they don't).
     
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    I think the 6 vs 9 month booking window is irrelevent for those of us that plan and reserve when it opens. Availability occurs because owners there dont make home resort booking or there is excess HGVC owned inventory that is not rented or deposited in RCI.

    IMO the 60/45 day window is the restrictive one that affects club opportunity the most. That hasn’t come to Hawaii yet, but may if the new Waikiki property is to be a Residence.

    I’m sure this will be a high point resort like KL/GW/GI. It will be interesting to see if they make one of the phases lower point or mixed like KL. KL may become a one off resort in that respect.

    There should always be plenty of the high point units available in Hawaii, I know mine will because I’ll never book it. I will always stretch the points by taking a lower point unit. :)

    Listen to me, I sound like it may actually be built in my lifetime, lol.




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    I don't expect the resort to have views comparable to your Marriott OF (or Westin WKORV OF) because it is across the road instead of directly on the beach. But it will be good OVs. I imagine that the developer retail prices will be in the same comparable ballpark.

    However, if you trade your existing HGVC points (plus buy another inexpensive resale with low MF/pt to meet the high pt requirements) to trade in during club season, I expect that will be a MUCH better deal than paying $32k for a resale MOC OF.

    We were considering buying another week to add to our WKORVN, but I now view MBV as a more economical way to stretch our WKORVN week on Maui to a longer stay. Sure, we need to move resorts and there is the difference of OV vs. OF. However this raises the question as to whether this is "good enough" for saving $22k+ ($32k MOC minus $10k HGVC resale) on another MOC or WKORV resale purchase - it becomes a personal preference of view, location, and discretionary budget as to whether an extra $22k+ is worth it.

    We still get our OF beachfront week at WKORVN, then can get another week at MBV, a comparable quality resort, (but not OF). We are not burdened with a high Maui MOC or WKORV MF of $2500 - $3200 per week and could save more than half of that annually with the right HGVC resale unit.

    Of course, this strategy assumes decent club window and unit availability. It probably won't work during event weeks and July/Aug. However, the high point values will keep many people opting for BI or Oahu and reduce demand.

    If this HGVC strategy doesn't work, we can always pick up a resale WKORV or MOC OF which, to your point, is much more cost effective than retail.
     
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    DONE - the Aloha/Tourism debate has been moved to the Hawaii forum.
     
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    Just bringing drone video back to this thread

     
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    Thanks for sharing the drone footage Kind of surprising how much open space was around the old resort.

    I am sure the new HGV resort will be nice, even if roads make it a bit more urban than some of the other resorts.
     
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    That road running through the resort looks fairly busy.
     
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    It's the main road through Kihei.
     
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    That was Azeka's Market in Kihei that sold the Maui ribs. We also used to get them and bbq them where we were staying, going back to the 80's...Azeka's closed a few years ago though. Don't know if another market started selling their own version..should have..they were very popular.
     
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