[New Point Values are being posted here] anyone hitting the [RCI] site at 12:00?

[GrayFal]

Red visible studio, Patriot's Place, is 16 points.

Myrtle Beach is high at 46 points for summer 2 beds.

Reminder that with Starwoods new RCI "Blended Trade Power" generic deposit you will no longer be able to deposit a reserved summer week....and so it goes

 

[ondeadlin]

Summer OBX 2BR is also 46 points.

Summer 2BR Tybee Island, which is much harder to trade into is only 31 points.

Summer 1BR Allen House in London which is much harder than all of those to trade into is 45 points.

Summer Isle of Palms (Charleston) 1BR which is also a much tougher trade than MB or OBX is only 34 points.

Somebody must have been drunk when they concocted this points racket!

If I owned at Allen House, Isle of Palms, or Tybee Island, I would run not walk away from RCI.

Actually, I think it's much more surprising that 1BR units have trade values that are so high. I'm a completely neutral party - I've never joined RCI or traded there - and it seems to me that they've actually done a pretty good job here.

Is it perfect? No. No system is.

But there's nothing you can post that I'll put too much stock in, because You've hated RCI for so long and so hard on this board that it's hard to take your criticisms seriously. The only thing you could have posted today that would have surprised me was something positive, and of course that hasn't happened.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Reminder that with Starwoods new RCI "Blended Trade Power" generic deposit you will no longer be able to deposit a reserved summer week....and so it goes

Point taken.

RCI guides are not happy about this way that Starwood is controlling deposits, either. They also believe it's wrong. Starwood has hurt us in so many ways.

 

[sfwilshire]

Summer OBX 2BR is also 46 points.

Summer 2BR Tybee Island, which is much harder to trade into is only 31 points.

Tybee Island Memorial Day, 28 points max.

June into July 4th weekend, Tristrams Landing, Nantucket, 33 points max.

Sheila

 

[lizfox]

Range of Possible Trading Points for New RCI Weeks Exchange System?

Does anyone happen to know the full possible range of points for the new RCI Weeks exchange program? I have seen weeks that have been assigned as low as a "4", and I have also seen weeks assigned as high as a "58". Is the full range of the scale 1-60?

 

[DocPepsi]

Summer OBX 2BR is also 46 points.

Summer 2BR Tybee Island, which is much harder to trade into is only 31 points.

Summer 1BR Allen House in London which is much harder than all of those to trade into is 45 points.

Summer Isle of Palms (Charleston) 1BR which is also a much tougher trade than MB or OBX is only 34 points.

Somebody must have been drunk when they concocted this points racket!

If I owned at Allen House, Isle of Palms, or Tybee Island, I would run not walk away from RCI.

I'd argue with you on which of those places is more desirable. I for one have never even heard of Tybee Island, which means I would never even consider doing a search for it in the first place. Now if the way RCI handled demand is just a ratio of the amount of units used to the amount of units deposited by members, then that is just a hotel occupancy rate. I hope they don't use that method, because that is just completely flawed. Many high end hotels will have occupancy rates lower than 50%. Does that mean the desirability of Ritz Carlton is lower than say a Holiday Inn with 75% Occupancy?

I'm almost certain that more people are putting ongoing searches, and more people are using their advanced online search for OBX in the Summer. Given that the website is constantly broken, i'd question if RCI would have the ability to figure out how to even use that information in determining 'Demand', but I hope that is the way!

 

[GrayFal]

We own at Presidential Villas at Plantation Resort, Myrtle Beach, and those are doing very well. I have never deposited SBP with RCI and never will. As a matter of fact, I may never deposit another one in II, either.

RCI guides are not happy about this way that Starwood is controlling deposits, either. They also believe it's wrong. Starwood has hurt us in so many ways.

Yes, they sure have....

Didn't realize you had another Myrtle beach ownership.
Using the calculater, SBP 1BR July week is a 46...but owners will never see that due to the "blended trade power"

 

[patty5ia]

Dumb question - do you have to have a week deposited to be able to see trade value?

 

[Carolinian]

Tybee Island is beachfront, close to Savannah, and has only one resort, and there is nothing else close in to Savannah. It is hard to get because of location, combining being close to a very interesting city and on the beach. (While it would be possible to drive to Savannah from HHI it is not nearly as close).

Timeshare is real estate, and the three most important factors in real estate are, of course, location, location, and location.

I'd argue with you on which of those places is more desirable. I for one have never even heard of Tybee Island, which means I would never even consider doing a search for it in the first place. Now if the way RCI handled demand is just a ratio of the amount of units used to the amount of units deposited by members, then that is just a hotel occupancy rate. I hope they don't use that method, because that is just completely flawed. Many high end hotels will have occupancy rates lower than 50%. Does that mean the desirability of Ritz Carlton is lower than say a Holiday Inn with 75% Occupancy?

I'm almost certain that more people are putting ongoing searches, and more people are using their advanced online search for OBX in the Summer. Given that the website is constantly broken, i'd question if RCI would have the ability to figure out how to even use that information in determining 'Demand', but I hope that is the way!

 

[wgatips]

Massanutten's Shenandoah Villas (Luxury Townhouse Style) 1 Bdrm lockout Week 41, 2010 deposit in the 31-90 day range received 8 points.
Using the deposit calculator, 2 bedroom Week 41, 2011 deposit will yield a whopping 12 points, while split lockouts will yield 10 points each for 20 total points if combined.

Are others seeing similar point boosts, percentage wise, by splitting lock-out units? I certainly don't mind, as I would probably go that route if I do choose to deposit next year (or beyond), even with the combination fee.

 

[Carolinian]

Massanutten's Shenandoah Villas (Luxury Townhouse Style) 1 Bdrm lockout Week 41, 2010 deposit in the 31-90 day range received 8 points.
Using the deposit calculator, 2 bedroom Week 41, 2011 deposit will yield a whopping 12 points, while split lockouts will yield 10 points each for 20 total points if combined.

Are others seeing similar point boosts, percentage wise, by splitting lock-out units? I certainly don't mind, as I would probably go that route if I do choose to deposit next year (or beyond), even with the combination fee.

It would appear that they are creating an incentive to split lockouts so that RCI can then collect the combination fee later on.

 

[cory30]

Summer SC 2 bdrm 6o pts (-3 for depositing at less than 276 days for a 57 pt. deposit). Have to say I am pretty happy with this.

 

[patty5ia]

Hey! So do you have to make a deposit to see the value of your week?

 

[wgatips]

Hey! So do you have to make a deposit to see the value of your week?

You should be able to see the Deposit Calculator once you go to the "Manage Your Deposits" tab.
Like others noted, I had to clear temp files and cookies in Internet Explorer for this functionality to work.

 

[patty5ia]

Thanks, but now we can't even log on to the site.
Thank you for your response!

 

[sfwilshire]

Tybee Island is beachfront, close to Savannah, and has only one resort, and there is nothing else close in to Savannah. It is hard to get because of location, combining being close to a very interesting city and on the beach. (While it would be possible to drive to Savannah from HHI it is not nearly as close).

Timeshare is real estate, and the three most important factors in real estate are, of course, location, location, and location.

I bought a Memorial Week at this resort site unseen because it had been suggested as a good trader. It has, indeed, done very well for me.

Last year we finally visited for part of our owned week when it didn't rent. It's not my sort of beach (too crowded) but, as Carolinian mentioned, was excellent for visits to Savannah.

Not sure if I'll ever go back, but it certainly is a popular area with southerners. Lots of Georgia and South Carolina plates in the parking lot.

Sheila

 

[miamidan]

It would appear that they are creating an incentive to split lockouts so that RCI can then collect the combination fee later on.

This positive response must just be killing you Carolinian

 

[wgatips]

Thanks, but now we can't even log on to the site.
Thank you for your response!

Noticed the same problem in the last 10-15 minutes.
I'm guessing more folks are trying to log on, as the work day is coming to an end - at least on the east coast. Here's the error I'm getting:

LI014: EVS1 Error - Too Many Users

We were unable to process your request; please try again. If you continue to receive this message, please call the Call Center. 1289858442723

 

[Carolinian]

This positive response must just be killing you Carolinian

Actually, you seem to have missed when I complimented RCI on finally making their Availibilitity tables availible to North American members as part of their website additions. This has been useful for European members and it is a positive that they have made it availible to users on the other side of the pond as well.

 

[Carolinian]

Former active Tugger JLB has posted his own example over at Timeshare Forums.

For 20 years, he has been regularly exchanging to one of a group of resorts in SW Florida in the winter, using one deposit plus an exchange fee. With RCI's changes to get an exchange to a lesser resort in the same area at the same time, he will need four deposits combined, and that is for a lesser resort. He calculated the cost of four m/f's, a combining fee, an exchange fee, and RCI membership at $2,758 for one week in a studio at a lesser resort than what he has been getting. Oh, and those four deposits he is referrring to are red 2BR GC's.

A situation like that is RCI moving the goalposts into the next county. They were telling a whopper when they claimed they weren't changing trading power.

As JLB put it, he can rent a lot cheaper.

 

[bilfbr245]

It is certainly true that trading power has been substantially impacted. I have noticed numerous potential trades that I could have made last week now require more trading power than my deposits provide. Other trades consistent with what I have made in the past are also requiring more trading power.

 

[Timeshare Von]

Speaking of dog traders . . .

My 2010 Flagstaff (wk 12 - 2BR) deposit is a mere 14 points in the system.

In looking at my Kingsgate 3BR lockoff (wk 18), it appears it will be worth at a max . . . 11 (1BR), 13 (2BR) or 14 (3BR). Why on earth would I (or anyone) deposit it as a 3BR under this equation!?!?!?

 

[suzanne]

A different view to the new RCI

I finally got in and chose the see entire RCI inventory. at 6:45 PM Eastern Standard Time I see 1051 Resorts and 57180 Units available. What are you seeing? Seems like there should be more.

Suzanne

 

[DocPepsi]

Former active Tugger JLB has posted his own example over at Timeshare Forums.

For 20 years, he has been regularly exchanging to one of a group of resorts in SW Florida in the winter, using one deposit plus an exchange fee. With RCI's changes to get an exchange to a lesser resort in the same area at the same time, he will need four deposits combined, and that is for a lesser resort. He calculated the cost of four m/f's, a combining fee, an exchange fee, and RCI membership at $2,758 for one week in a studio at a lesser resort than what he has been getting. Oh, and those four deposits he is referrring to are red 2BR GC's.

A situation like that is RCI moving the goalposts into the next county. They were telling a whopper when they claimed they weren't changing trading power.

As JLB put it, he can rent a lot cheaper.

Vacation Village Resorts are Red Gold Crown, and they have 2BRs, do they not. Owning at colossally oversupplied locations trying to get to something of value is just a broken system. Are you seriously telling me that you are advocating that? Even if that 'something of value' happens to just be a studio unit.

And by the way, i apologize to the owners of Vacation Village properties that may feel offended by this post. Using it as an example since I've been to their sales presentations in Orlando & South Florida, and know first hand of their aweful sales tactics.

 

[mayson12]

Looks like my Pono Kai 2BR varies quite a bit. The highest point value was week 52 for 36 points. 4th of July week only got 26 points. Thanksgiving week got 30. Planning to use my week, but interesting all the same.