Point Deposit Feature

[hjsweet2002]

Does anyone know if points deposited to future years will be used first prior to the regular points assigned to that year?

 

[hdins]

I was told yes

 

[hjsweet2002]

I was told yes

Thanks

 

[ronparise]

Does anyone know if points deposited to future years will be used first prior to the regular points assigned to that year?

It dosent matter...

 

[hjsweet2002]

It dosent matter...

Why doesn't it matter? If you don't use all the points you can not forward points you all ready forwarded.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Why doesn't it matter? If you don't use all the points you can not forward points you all ready forwarded.

Reading through this similar thread may help:
https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/pooling-points.263058/#post-2060762

 

[hjsweet2002]

Reading through this similar thread may help:
https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/pooling-points.263058/#post-2060762

Still didn't see that they will use deposited points prior to regular use Year points. The Wyndham directory states only that once forwarded you cannot forward them again.

 

[paxsarah]

Deposited points have the same end date as the UY points they're deposited into. In any given UY, you will be able to use points deposit to move as much as the total number of points you're allotted in that UY into a future UY. There are no buckets of points to be used first or last, just a benefit to be able to deposit up to my full year's allotment of points, but no more.

Example, say I'm platinum and I'm allotted 1 million points per year. I have 500k points left in 2017 that I won't use and I decide to points deposit them to 2018 for a total of 1.5 million points.

Scenario A - say I use 750k points on reservations in 2018. At the end of the year, I can deposit the remaining 750k to 2019 or 2020, because that's less than my annual allotment.
Scenario B - say I only use 250K on reservations in 2018. At the end of the year, I can only deposit 1 million points to 2019 or 2020, and 250k will go to waste*, because my annual allotment is 1 million and I can't deposit any more than that.



* I presume that 250k can't even be deposited to RCI because that would create 1.25 million points deposited to various places, and only a total of 1 million in regular UY points can be deposited (as I interpret the policy and subsequent explanations). However, I don't know if this is how the system will treat it in practice and I don't think anyone has really had the opportunity to test this yet.

 

[ronparise]

It dosent matter whether one set of points is used first or not because you are always able to deposit the number of points owned

Lets assume you one contracts with an annual allocation of 308000 points and lets further assume you are not VIP and your use year is Jan.
that means You will have until Mar 31 to deposit 308000 points into 2019 or 2020

If you had deposited your 2017 points into 2018, you should see a total of 616,000 points that will expire at the end of 2018. there is no distinction between the points deposited from 2017 and the 2018 points.. They are all good for travel in 2018 or you can use some and deposit up to 308000 points into future years

 

[hjsweet2002]

Thanks. I was just confused with the fact you could not deposit points that were all ready deposited once.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Thanks. I was just confused with the fact you could not deposit points that were all ready deposited once.

They sure could have been clearer, I don't think it's explained well. In the 4/20/17 supplement they say 'Deposited points will expire at the end of the use year selected and may not be moved again'). That implies to me that they are tracking them while in reality it appears they are not. But rather capping you each year at moving your number of allotted points.

Except for some of us depositing is not working, so, let's hope they fix it and does it works like we think it should.

 

[Cyrus24]

You can not use deposited points for ARP!!! So deposited points are not always used first. If you never make ARP reservations, you will never have issues with deposited points. But, if you routinely use regular year points for ARP, you could get stuck with deposited points. Be careful about assuming deposited points always being used first. They are not always used first. The Deposited Points Feature is horrible compared to the old credit pool.

 

[rongina]

Regarding the "commingling" of Deposited Points with Regular Use year points, seems to me it does make a difference what points gets used first since only Regular Use year points can be used for Cruises, etc. Thus, if my Regular Use year points are used beginning in 2018, I may no longer have enough Regular Use year points to book a cruise in 2018.

 

[ronparise]

Regarding the "commingling" of Deposited Points with Regular Use year points, seems to me it does make a difference what points gets used first since only Regular Use year points can be used for Cruises, etc. Thus, if my Regular Use year points are used beginning in 2018, I may no longer have enough Regular Use year points to book a cruise in 2018.

Maybe. But if you have an annual allocation of xxx points I think you would be able to use xxx points for your cruise

 

[rongina]

Good Point. I would hope you are correct!

We have over 2 Million Points and when I have tried to book a cruise, the Wyndham Cruise Desk seem to consider only the available points for the year when the cruise will occur. They don't seem to have any awareness to how many total points I have currently "available" including Pool Credits which are available for staying at Wyndham properties.

We have experienced many problems with Wyndham when we book a reservation on-line for a Wyndham property, and then if / when our plans change and need to cancel the reservation - that the Points go back into the right bucket - ie. correctly into the Current Use Year, or a Future Year or into a Pooled Point Year. My experience this year - after the system conversion occurred in May - that Points definitely were not consistently returned to the year they came from. I eventually was able to get these matters resolved, but it took a lot of patience, many months and happened repeatedly. One of the "pluses" from the new system, is that we can now see where the points originated for each reservation.

Next time we book a cruise, I will be specific and ask the Wyndham Cruise Desk again. I realize that using Wyndham Points is not a financially wise use of the Points, but its a nice alternative from staying only at a Wyndham property or exchanging them through RCI, etc. We've really enjoyed the use of them on a couple of NCL cruises.