Vistana Flex

[tschwa2]

This is very important to us. We bought 20K additional Flex Options because this would put us in the Flex system, including the 81K Options we already own. This would enable us to use a total of 101 K Options through the Flex system. If that is not true, then there is no reason for us to purchase the 20K Flex Options.


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Your 20k in Flex Options lets you book 20k 12-8 months in advance. You would have to wait until 8 months to book within the flex home group for your 81k. Unless you turned in your 81k Vistana and were then given 101k flex options, the two would remain separate.

Just curious what part of the flex program were you most interested? Almost all of the resorts in the program are easy to book at 8 months so no reason to own flex options.

 

[VacationForever]

Your 20k in Flex Options lets you book 20k 12-8 months in advance. You would have to wait until 8 months to book within the flex home group for your 81k. Unless you turned in your 81k Vistana and were then given 101k flex options, the two would remain separate.

Just curious what part of the flex program were you most interested? Almost all of the resorts in the program are easy to book at 8 months so no reason to own flex options.

It looks like OP was offered to retro the Vistana week. At 8 months 101K will be eligible for Star Option reservations.

 

[tschwa2]

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[tschwa2]

. Retro means allowing a non SVN week into SVN. A deed back and reissues flex would be what they would need to use all for Flex. As you said they would be would be eligible for Star option reservations at 8 months.

 

[VacationForever]

That's not what retro means. Retro means allowing a non SVN week into SVN. A deed back and reissues flex would be what they would need to use all for Flex.

OP owned a SVR week which was not in SVN. I know what retro is. OP was offered to retro his week with a small Flex package.

 

[gwberg]

Your 20k in Flex Options lets you book 20k 12-8 months in advance. You would have to wait until 8 months to book within the flex home group for your 81k. Unless you turned in your 81k Vistana and were then given 101k flex options, the two would remain separate.

Just curious what part of the flex program were you most interested? Almost all of the resorts in the program are easy to book at 8 months so no reason to own flex options.

We thought we would maximize our current 81K Options (based on our 2 bedroom Vistana ownership). Are you saying we would not benefit from the Flex system by buying 20K Flex Options?


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[tschwa2]

OP owned a SVR week which was not in SVN. I know what retro is. OP was offered to retro his week with a small Flex package.

sorry I was on chat with RCI trying to fix the account and it didn't go through. The OP mentions he wants to use the whole thing with Flex not with SVN. If the goal is just to have 101,000 to use with SVN then it might possibly make sense although trying to dump what he has and buy mandatory would be less expensive.

 

[VacationForever]

sorry I was on chat with RCI trying to fix the account and it didn't go through. The OP mentions he wants to use the whole thing with Flex not with SVN. If the goal is just to have 101,000 to use with SVN then it might possibly make sense although trying to dump what he has and buy mandatory would be less expensive.

OP does not have an understanding of what is Flex Options vs. Star Options.

 

[VacationForever]

We thought we would maximize our current 81K Options (based on our 2 bedroom Vistana ownership). Are you saying we would not benefit from the Flex system by buying 20K Flex Options?


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You said having 81K Star Options for your SVR is important. I want to confirm that if you did not buy 20K Flex Options, your SVR week does not have 81k Star Option. Is that correct?

 

[gwberg]

What I meant is that the issue is important to us. We only bought the 20K Flex Options because we thought it meant our 81K Star Options at SVR would have much greater flexibility in the whole system of SVR reservation including—this is crucial—exchanging through II. The example I gave the salesman was trying to reserve at Marriott Ko Olina in Hawaii. I have not been able to use a deposit of our SVR property to reserve at Ko Olina. He said it was because we owned a red week and II would not show us availability. If we owned Flex Options the whole year at Ko Olina would be available. He pointed to a chart that showed us 6000 Options a night midweek. He said joining Flex system would allow us to access such a unit at a desirable time of the year. So—yes, our current SVR does have Star Options. We thought that buying 20K Flex Options meant much more value through II. I have now concluded that this is not at all true.


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[VacationForever]

Total BS. Owning a million Flex Options still does not get you access to Marriott Ko Olina any easier. Marriott has a block for the first 24 days after Marriott deposits into II and during this period other Marriott timeshare owners get to trade first. If there are leftovers after the 24 days window, then other timeshares can see the weeks. If you want Marriott Ko Olina, you either own it there or buy a Marriott trader.

Flex Options have access to Sheraton Desert Oasis, Sheraton Broadway Plantation, Sheraton Vistana Resorts, Sheraton Vistana Villages, one of the other Sheraton Florida location, and Sheraton Steamboat Springs. Other than booking at those places at those places for 1 or 2 nights, it does not offer you additional access in II that you are looking for.

 

[gwberg]

You need to rescind now.

Regarding your other deeded timeshare, I think you mentioned that it comes with 81K Star Options. You can use it to book Vistana resorts for no additional cost. Also, booking within the system is far less painful than trading through II.

I love your directness. Total BS is exactly right.


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[VacationForever]

I love your directness. Total BS is exactly right.


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Thank you. Time is of the essence.. rescind while it is still within the rescission window.

BTW, I own at Vistana, with Star Options. About 4 to 5 years ago, I bought 2 weeks of Marriott timeshare so that I could trade into Ko Olina. We traded into Ko Olina 3BR for 2 consecutive weeks in March 2017 and 2 weeks of 2BR in Dec 2015.

 

[gwberg]

Lucky you. We are going to stay at Ko Olina for 5 nights in February using Marriott points. It will be a hotel room but I hope it will be fine for a short stay. After that we will stay 2 weeks on Kauai at Wyndham timeshare in 2 bedroom. I’ve never been to Hawaii. I just sent a rescission letter in the message window on Vistana website. They promise a response in 48 hours.


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[VacationForever]

Lucky you. We are going to stay at Ko Olina for 5 nights in February using Marriott points. It will be a hotel room but I hope it will be fine for a short stay. After that we will stay 2 weeks on Kauai at Wyndham timeshare in 2 bedroom. I’ve never been to Hawaii. I just sent a rescission letter in the message window on Vistana website. They promise a response in 48 hours.


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You MUST follow rescind instructions on your contract - using USPS letter with tracking (certified etc) with time stamp within the recission window. Doing it any other way will not get your out of the contract.

 

[gwberg]

You need to rescind now.

Regarding your other deeded timeshare, I think you mentioned that it comes with 81K Star Options. You can use it to book Vistana resorts for no additional cost. Also, booking within the system is far less painful than trading through II.

My contract only says “in writing” giving the address. I was hoping either a fax or email with attachment would work. I have a car so I can get to a post office if I have to.


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[VacationForever]

My contract only says “in writing” giving the address. I was hoping either a fax or email with attachment would work. I have a car so I can get to a post office if I have to.


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In writing means through USPS, with time stamp. Time stamp and proof of mailing it is critical. Since the organization is so large, you must address it to the department and address exactly as it is stated in the contract.

 

[gwberg]

Makes perfect sense. I can use the resort computer to print the letter. Thanks.


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[VacationForever]

Makes perfect sense. I can use the resort computer to print the letter. Thanks.


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In addition to mailing, I would also fax, just to ensure they get the recission in a timely manner.

 

[gwberg]

In addition to mailing, I would also fax, just to ensure they get the recission in a timely manner.

OK. I’ll do both.


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[VacationForever]

OK. I’ll do both.


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All the best. In the meantime, stick around TUG and read more about Vistana, Marriott, Exchanging sub-forums. Your Sheraton Vistana Resort is just fine in terms of trading power. You just need to learn the ins and outs of exchanging and various timeshare systems' unique rules.

 

[DeniseM]

In addition to mailing, I would also fax, just to ensure they get the recission in a timely manner.

Just to clarify, it really doesn't matter when they receive recission letter - the key date is when you mail it. That is why you mail it certified mail.

MORE INFO ABOUT RESCINDING: https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/faq-rescinding-canceling-a-timeshare-purchase.74493/

 

[gwberg]

All the best. In the meantime, stick around TUG and read more about Vistana, Marriott, Exchanging sub-forums. Your Sheraton Vistana Resort is just fine in terms of trading power. You just need to learn the ins and outs of exchanging and various timeshare systems' unique rules.

I will, definitely.


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[dioxide45]

As for 81,000 StarOption SVV weeks. I haven't seen any of those selling for under $1000 lately. All the ones I have seen as completed auctions on eBay have been over $1500. It seems that us talking about them here on TUG has driven the prices up.

As for Ko'Olina. If you want to go there, especially inb a 2BR, you really need to buy a Marriott trader or buy there. A lot also depends on the season when you want to go. If you want to go in the summer or winter, you really need to own at Ko'Olina. If you can travel in the off or shoulder season, then a Marriott trader will do. We are staying at Ko'Olina this week in a 2BR by trading in with one of our Orlando Marriott gold weeks. These can usually be bought for less than $2000 and are fairly flexible traders.

Great advice provided about SHeraton Flex. A really bad product for most when resale mandatory resorts are available relatively cheap.