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Where Should Wyndham add a Resort?

Discussion in 'Wyndham Vacation Resorts' started by jwalk03, Jun 13, 2019.

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    Actually... I just looked it up. It is an associate hotel. $50K points per weekday night for a 2 person max hotel room. Not sure of weekends as there is no point chart. I am not sure if this is the new Pittsburg resort, but if it is, it is a wasteful use of points.
     
  2. jwalk03

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    Pittsburgh has had that associate hotel for at least the last few years. I would be very surprised if they developed an actual timeshare resort there, but who knows?
     
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    Banff is hard for two reasons. It's in a national park, so all the land is leased from the government. That means you'd have to sell a RTU, subject to Canadian laws. Tough logistically.

    Also, the amount of developed square footage in the town is capped, which means to build something new you have to tear down an existing building the same size. $$
     
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    Maine, because it is vacation land.
     
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    London
    Munich
    Salzburg, Austria
    Toronto?

    NYC on the WEST side of Midtown Manhattan--like ACTUALLY in or near the theatre district (Midtown 45 is actually a mile away and although people say it is walking distance, it's quite a hike)

    Indianapolis
    Philadelphia
    Mt. Rushmore area in South Dakota

    OHIO--Cleveland, Cincy, or Sandusky
    Michigan--on Lake Michigan

    St. Louis
    Memphis
    Atlanta
    Alabama or Mississippi Gulf Coast Beach
     
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    Cleveland would be an excellent location and has a lot to offer. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland. There is a very nice Zoo, an Aquarium, a Science Center, the Holden Arboretum. Cleveland has major league sports teams for football, basketball and baseball and a minor league hockey team too. The Football Hall of Fame is in Canton so not far. Cedar Point is a big amusement park about an hour away. It would be closer to Sandusky but is very easy to get to from Cleveland. Same thing with the Kalahari Water Park. Put-In-Bay isn't far from Cleveland. There are wineries along Lake Erie. Middlefield is about an hour from Cleveland. It is the center for the world's 4th largest Amish settlement and has shops with locally made goods, restaurants, etc. It is also easy to find reasonably priced flights to Cleveland.

    However I'm voting for Cleveland for selfish reasons. Our son lives there and my sister would be about an hour away.
     
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    Jan Impressed with the way you sold my hometown. No doubt about it Cleveland has a lot going for it and is very affordable.
     
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    It would be cool if Wyndham could find a lakeside location on lake Erie and develop a resort.
     
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    Michigan...nothing up here.
     
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    OBX and also of the Charlotte, NC areas.
     
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    We've considered staying at Fairfield Mountains or Fairfield Sapphire Valley, but
    ended up staying on the other side of the mountains in the Knoxville / Pigeon Forge area.

    I guess those two are really several hours from Charlotte. We would also enjoy
    a location there more like some of the newer urban ones, like Austin (a new favorite).
     
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    I really like the idea of more urban ones as well and Wyndham already has the most urban locations of any of the major timeshare brands, so why not continue to expand on that and use it as a big advantage over the others. Expanding in Urban areas is a good way to appeal to millennials as well, as they tend to prefer those types of vacations to week long stays at remote mountains or far away beaches. (This millennial not included- I like ALL vacation types. More beaches, more mountains, and more cities all sound good to me!)

    I think Seattle & Boston would both be EXCELLENT urban additions. Miami too would be great appealing to Urban and Beach lovers.
     
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    Worldmark has a resort in Seattle (Worldmark Camlin), and I dont think you will see much new development in the core Worldmark market of the Pacific Northwest (PNW) unless it is a shared resort like Portland.
     
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    How about Murrieta CA:banana:
     
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    I think your right. If they did it- it would almost certainly be a shared resort, but I could live with that.
     
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    Around 20 years ago, before we owned our home or had kids. Angela and I went to Cleveland on vacation. We spent 2 or 3 days in the city itself, back then there was a SeaWorld park there and the RnR HOF of course. We also spent a few days at the Breakers at Cedar Pointe and a final night near Canton to visit the NFL HOF (my highlight of the trip). It was not an outrageously expensive vacation, we drove and other than the breakers, stayed at relatively inexpensive places.

    I thought it was an Ok vacation, not great, not bad. However, when telling anybody about our plans or our experience, the reaction is always the same. Why would you want to go to Cleveland? Do you have family there?
     
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    Ohio gets a bad rap, mainly from people that have never been here. There really are quite a few attractions in the state that draw visitors from all over.

    - NFL Hall of Fame
    - Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame
    - Cedar Point is one of the top amusement parks in the world (and Kings Island is a quality amusement park as well.)
    - Lake Erie and the Lake Erie Islands
    - Kalahari Sandusky is the largest indoor waterpark in the US.
    - Cuyahoga Valley National Park
    - The Columbus Zoo is consistently rated as one of the top zoos in the country
    - Pro sports teams in each of the 4 major sports
    - Hocking Hills State Park
     
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    Other than the two HOF there is no overwhelming draw. In my opinion, having vacationed there, the other places are things to fill your time if you want to visit the two HOFs. There are plenty of all the other things everywhere else.

    Joe
     
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    Cedar Point is the #1 draw in Ohio annually. Its really not even close compared to the hall of fames. While I agree some of the other activities I listed are not huge out of state visitor draws Cedar Point and Kings Island most certainly are. They are #1 & #2 in seasonal theme park attendance in the US annually.

    Cedar Point- 3.6 million visitors annually
    Kings Island- 3.5 million
    Columbus Zoo- 2.5 million
    Cuyahoga Valley NP- 2.2 million
    National Air Force Museum- 800k
    Rock n' Roll HOF- 500k
    NFL HOF- 200k
     
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    Love to see one near Clayton or Alexandria Bay The 1000 Islands NY. It would be nice to have one around the coast of Maine also
     
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    Twenty years ago is a long time, lol! Everyone has places that once they've been there are so many other places to go that going back isn't high on their list. Or on their list at all.

    It takes a wide variety of resorts to suit everyone's needs. When the new resort in Austin first opened we went and my sister and BIL joined us there. They didn't care for Austin so I highly doubt they would ever go back but we are looking forward to going back sometime. They love Hilton Head but didn't care for Sanibel Island. I went to Hilton Head once, have no burning desire to go back, and we love Sanibel Island.

    People in the Midwest want more places they can go within driving distance. Many vacations are about going to a nice resort to spend time with family or friends. Most people want someplace with a good selection of restaurants and some things of interest to do in the area. People from out of an area want a nearby major airport that they can find reasonably priced flights into.

    People who live in areas where they have Spring flowers and the beautiful Fall colors take that for granted and think Florida and the Southwest are a very different change of scenery. A younger coworker of my husband's here in Florida had only ever seen pictures of the trees in the Fall up North. She asked him if it really looked that like that. Experiencing the Fall colors was on her bucket list of dream vacations. Three years ago I accompanied my husband on a business trip to Arkansas in early April and we stayed at Fairfield Bay for a little over two weeks. I hadn't seen the Spring flowers since we moved to Florida 5 years earlier. When we were out to dinner with a group and were asked about the trip I said how much I enjoyed seeing the Spring flowers, the trees leafing out and the smell of Spring. One couple are Florida natives so the rest of the group had to explain it to them.

    Hey jwalk03, we both forgot to mention the boating and fishing on Lake Erie. Also the fresh fruits, tomatoes and sweet corn you get in the summer along Lake Erie just can't be beat.
     
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    The Club has a large and diverse membership, desiring a wide-range of Vacation experiences. So just because a resort location might not appeal to you, that does not mean everyone would feel the same way.

    So I don’t see the point in arguing against a suggestion, especially since no one in this forum has any influence in selecting the resort locations.

    Having visited the Ohio area last fall, I can see the value of a resort there.
     
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    Eric's post made me think of something. You mentioned Connecticut. A few months ago I discovered there is only one resort in all of Connecticut listed in the RCI directory. That struck me as odd because the other states, except for Ohio which has none, seem to have fair number of resorts to choose from. Connecticut has Water's Edge Resort and Spa in Westbrook. A friend had a week there that he wasn't able to use so I did everything I could think of to help him find a taker for it. Ebay, TUG last minute rentals, and on Craigslist in two different market areas. I don't use Craigslist but made an exception and went all out trying to help him. In looking at the website for the resort, at all the pictures and reading the reviews it seems like a nice very resort. He used to live in that area and said it is a really nice resort. I think it was down to $300-$325 for a full week which is a steal. This unit had a fireplace, a king bed in the master, the bathroom looked really nice and with the loft slept 6. Plus the resort has all the amenities, several really nice restaurants and very nice bar. Even if someone only wanted a long weekend it would be worth that much. You couldn't stay in a cheap motel for that price. I left the listings up until the day of check in and still no takers. I didn't even get any inquiries in over a month of the stay being listed.

    So why doesn't Connecticut have more timeshare resorts? All I know about Connecticut is from when my husband was there probably half a dozen times for his job. There is the big Foxwood Casino and Mystic Seaport.

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    The problems with some of these locations up north is the seasons. Harder for the developer to sell winter weeks in a snow bound city with out skiing. Mountains are good in winter and summer. Southern beach locations are great for summer vacations and the snow birds will stay there in the winter to escape the snow. Even NYC is a fairly easy trade in Jan and Feb.
     
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