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Written in response to the spinoff, but contains some great analysis overall of the fate of the timeshare business model. From the Orlando Sentinel:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...s-cfb-brinkmann-timeshare-20180604-story.html

Wyndham and the other timeshare companies make their money buying or building, and then selling. its the old buy low; sell high strategy

But as discussed here at length. Wyndham has a big rental operation. It seems to me that they are prepared to implement a buy/hold and rent strategy too

I think wyndham will do fine
 

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Which part(s) of the former Wyndham Worldwide do you think will being doing the buy, hold, rent approach?


Also, do you think this approach will result in a significant downsizing of Wyndham Destination's sales force?
 

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Which part(s) of the former Wyndham Worldwide do you think will being doing the buy, hold, rent approach?


Also, do you think this approach will result in a significant downsizing of Wyndham Destination's sales force?
Why do you think the hotel side would be doing any of the following ?
Buy timeshares?
Hold timeshares?
Rent timeshares?
Sell timeshares?

Seems like a no brainer to me on which side of the former Wyndham Worldwide would be doing any of those things.

Why do you think the sales force of Wyndham Destinations could go through a significant downsize?
Doesn’t Wyndham Destinations want to sell there product just as they did before the split?
Why would they want to cut sales and reduce the stock value due to falling sales?
 

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Do not know, if Ron responds, maybe he can answer your questions. Or, maybe people who attend recent sales presentations can chirp in and let people know what is being said. Maybe joint marketing agreements.
 

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Do not know, if Ron responds, maybe he can answer your questions. Or, maybe people who attend recent sales presentations can chirp in and let people know what is being said. Maybe joint marketing agreements.
I don’t get your line of thinking on the subject.
You sound like the two companies are merging when they actually split apart.
Credit card rewards seem to be the only way the two are still combined.
 

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Can anyone confirm what the above post indicates about "Credit card rewards seem to be the only way the two are still combined." Reviewing the Former Wyndham Worldwide press releases show they talk of a continuing Blue Thread that both companies will be participating in along with joint marketing programs among other possible areas.
 

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Can anyone confirm what the above post indicates about "Credit card rewards seem to be the only way the two are still combined." Reviewing the Former Wyndham Worldwide press releases show they talk of a continuing Blue Thread that both companies will be participating in along with joint marketing programs among other possible areas.
For the most part the two companies are going to be competing for the same customer bases money.
They may appear to have a rosy relations but never forget they are two separate competing companies for customers disposable income.
They both want as much of your money as possible for their own profit which means higher stock price.

Your dream is to put the two back together.
Why do you think they split if it was in everyone’s best interest to stay together?

Bonnet Creek is a classic example -
Do you think the hotel wants to be empty with everyone staying on the timeshare side?
Or the timeshare sales side will tell everyone their better off to stay at the hotel instead of buying a points contract from them?
 
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Which part(s) of the former Wyndham Worldwide do you think will being doing the buy, hold, rent approach?


Also, do you think this approach will result in a significant downsizing of Wyndham Destination's sales force?


are you serious with that question... The orlando sentinal article that amycurl posted was about the timeshare companies in Orlando and it raised a question about the future of timeshares

I followed up on that; suggesting that wyndham probably has a strategy in place to deal with whatever the future might bring

This is a timeshare forum... My interest and I presume the interest of most folks here is timeshares rather than hotels.. the hotel company is already very much involved in short term rentals...no? isnt that the very nature of a hotel?

The size of the sales force is self regulating... There are as many salesman as they need. If few sales are happening and few commissions being earned, the weaker salesman will drop out and become Uber drivers
 

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Would it be possible that the hotel/resort would sell developer points and if rescinded would return to them for new sale. If buyer waits too long and has to put on resale market would it then go to the other part of Wyndham? Both sides would have timeshares (resorts) but one may be of more value. They both carry the Wyndham name but may market differently. Hopefully Hotel/resort will tend to rely on owner satisfaction more than unethical sales tactics.
 

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Margaritaville by Wyndham has it own rules that I believe lays out the interaction with Club Wyndham Plus. If Club Wyndham does not get it's own dedicated units, presumably the timeshares will be sold through Margaritaville by Wyndham under their rules.
 

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Margaritaville by Wyndham has it own rules that I believe lays out the interaction with Club Wyndham Plus. If Club Wyndham does not get it's own dedicated units, presumably the timeshares will be sold through Margaritaville by Wyndham under their rules.
Island Margaritaville the desk person told us Wyndham had only 6 units.
 

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"Welcome to the Margaritaville Island Hotel in Pigeon Forge,TN."
 

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A possible formula to estimate costs might be: the conversion fee from Wyndham Club Plus/Access to Wyndham Rewards points plus the costs of 15,000 Wyndham Rewards Points in terms of what the cost of the Wyndham Club Plus/Access points (your MF average cost per thousand) are plus resort fees (if applicable) minus the value of the Wyndham Rewards received. This should approximate the nightly cost.
 

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Check out post 13 in the thread titled
"We just had an 8 hour 53 minute owner's update
The Wyndham Rewards points offer for a owner update may be as high at 20,000 points.
 

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Any indicators on how Wyndham Destinations is handling mega renters, account restrictions, and/or tickets?
 

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It’s just amazing at all the changes that have taken place since June 1st

I just don’t know where to start on all of Wyndham Destinations different handlings of mega renters,restrictions,and/or tickets.

As a DISNEY character would say about this thread —let it go-let it go-
 

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I read this thread to make sure I was correct in not attending a member update this weekend. The pitch was to tell us about the new company and rewards.
Thanks to all those that verified this name change is a nonevent.
 

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Any indicators on how Wyndham Destinations is handling mega renters, account restrictions, and/or tickets?
Hahaha hilarious!!! Maybe Nomad can help you out..
 
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