nodge
TUG Member
What rights, courtesies and considerations are owners and guests owed when an SVO resort elects to host large private events in common areas?
Off-and-on, we’ve been discussing this issue in other threads like this one and this one. Rather than keep picking away at it, I thought I’d post this thread and dedicate it to addressing it head on.
For example, if SVO elects to allow filming of a major motion picture on its grounds, and it concludes that the existing public restroom facilities are inadequate to accommodate the increased demands, can it place port-o-potties around the resort where-ever and when-ever it wants to like it did here, so long as it is only “temporary” and for a “good cause?” If so, who decides how long they can stay and which causes are good?
Even if such placement is only “temporary,” if it is there for the week that a guest just happens to be spending their week there, wouldn’t that guest consider it “permanent” for all intents and purposes to them? (This is where a little thing that I like to call “empathy” comes in handy.) Unless you are the vacationer placed next to the port-o-potty on your one week a year vacation that you have worked hard and saved all year for, is it really OK to consider such placement inconsequential as was done here?
And. . . .What about any money generated or spent to host these events? At a minimum, shouldn’t any costs associated with hosting the event (port-o-potty rental, extra security, etc.) first be taken out of the revenue generated before a particular HOA absorbs the cost? Moreover, if the powers that be elect to close facilities like pools, etc. to allow an event to be hosted, shouldn’t guests be compensated in some way for the inconvenience (like a free breakfast, or free smoothies, free use of the Westin or Sheraton hotel pools whenever one of the villa pools are inaccessible, etc.) and the cost of that compensation paid for by the revenue generated from the event?
Similarly, if everyone at SVO is so star-struck that they let celebrities park their cars and trucks any ol’ place anywhere in the resort, even on the lawn in front of several “ocean view” villas all day, are the guests in those villas just supposed to suck it up for the greater good? And what is that greater good anyway? Allowing the celebrity to not have to walk all the way to the parking lot at the beginning and end of the day? Don’t members of the private party being hosted have to maintain some level of respect and courtesy towards the grounds, resort rules, and guests at the resort?
Based on my limited data gathered from the 3 day film shoot with Clint in January, it appears to me that guests’ rights and enjoyment aren’t even being considered when SVO elects to host some private events in common areas of the resort. So I propose we use this thread to list some guidelines that we, as owners/guests, would like to see followed in the future by the SVO powers that be.
I’ll start:
1. Consider owner/guest use and enjoyment when deciding to do anything related to hosting private events in SVO common areas.
2. Instruct all members of the private party being hosted to honor and respect the rules of the resort, its grounds and guests who are enjoying the resort.
3. No port-o-potties and other support equipment placed/stored in view in recreational common areas. Either force the private party to rent a few villas near the event and have them use those restrooms and store their stuff in the other rooms; or place port-o-potties and other support equipment out-of-sight.
4. No long term parking on any grass by anyone. Load and unload and then move it, buster. This means you too fancypants celebrities.
5. Publish, preferably online, advance notice and a schedule of when common resort facilities will be off limits for use by the private event. In cases where a major facility, like one or more pools, or the bar or main restaurants will be off-limits, provide like compensation to owners/guests (i.e. complementary use of the Westin hotel pools, set-up an impromptu bar in another location and offer the first drink free, etc.)
What else can we think of?
-nodge
Off-and-on, we’ve been discussing this issue in other threads like this one and this one. Rather than keep picking away at it, I thought I’d post this thread and dedicate it to addressing it head on.
For example, if SVO elects to allow filming of a major motion picture on its grounds, and it concludes that the existing public restroom facilities are inadequate to accommodate the increased demands, can it place port-o-potties around the resort where-ever and when-ever it wants to like it did here, so long as it is only “temporary” and for a “good cause?” If so, who decides how long they can stay and which causes are good?
Even if such placement is only “temporary,” if it is there for the week that a guest just happens to be spending their week there, wouldn’t that guest consider it “permanent” for all intents and purposes to them? (This is where a little thing that I like to call “empathy” comes in handy.) Unless you are the vacationer placed next to the port-o-potty on your one week a year vacation that you have worked hard and saved all year for, is it really OK to consider such placement inconsequential as was done here?
And. . . .What about any money generated or spent to host these events? At a minimum, shouldn’t any costs associated with hosting the event (port-o-potty rental, extra security, etc.) first be taken out of the revenue generated before a particular HOA absorbs the cost? Moreover, if the powers that be elect to close facilities like pools, etc. to allow an event to be hosted, shouldn’t guests be compensated in some way for the inconvenience (like a free breakfast, or free smoothies, free use of the Westin or Sheraton hotel pools whenever one of the villa pools are inaccessible, etc.) and the cost of that compensation paid for by the revenue generated from the event?
Similarly, if everyone at SVO is so star-struck that they let celebrities park their cars and trucks any ol’ place anywhere in the resort, even on the lawn in front of several “ocean view” villas all day, are the guests in those villas just supposed to suck it up for the greater good? And what is that greater good anyway? Allowing the celebrity to not have to walk all the way to the parking lot at the beginning and end of the day? Don’t members of the private party being hosted have to maintain some level of respect and courtesy towards the grounds, resort rules, and guests at the resort?
Based on my limited data gathered from the 3 day film shoot with Clint in January, it appears to me that guests’ rights and enjoyment aren’t even being considered when SVO elects to host some private events in common areas of the resort. So I propose we use this thread to list some guidelines that we, as owners/guests, would like to see followed in the future by the SVO powers that be.
I’ll start:
1. Consider owner/guest use and enjoyment when deciding to do anything related to hosting private events in SVO common areas.
2. Instruct all members of the private party being hosted to honor and respect the rules of the resort, its grounds and guests who are enjoying the resort.
3. No port-o-potties and other support equipment placed/stored in view in recreational common areas. Either force the private party to rent a few villas near the event and have them use those restrooms and store their stuff in the other rooms; or place port-o-potties and other support equipment out-of-sight.
4. No long term parking on any grass by anyone. Load and unload and then move it, buster. This means you too fancypants celebrities.
5. Publish, preferably online, advance notice and a schedule of when common resort facilities will be off limits for use by the private event. In cases where a major facility, like one or more pools, or the bar or main restaurants will be off-limits, provide like compensation to owners/guests (i.e. complementary use of the Westin hotel pools, set-up an impromptu bar in another location and offer the first drink free, etc.)
What else can we think of?
-nodge
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