Anyone use the Short stays in II?

[chriskre]

Have you used the short stays in II?
What type of inventory do you see?
Specifically wondering if they allow you to see the good stuff like DVC and Marriotts, etc?
Or is it just overbuilt areas?

I just have a regular account so haven't upgraded to see if it's worth it or not.
I usually just use 5 or 6 nights out of a week anyway.
Thanks.

 

[dioxide45]

Mainly overbuilt. Kinda leftovers of leftovers. There are always exceptions.

 

[chriskre]

Mainly overbuilt. Kinda leftovers of leftovers. There are always exceptions.

Thanks.
So in the overbuilt, is it overbuilt Marriotts in Orlando?
I go to Orlando often.

 

[NiteMaire]

@chriske, as @dioxide45 stated there are always exceptions. I did my first short-stay exchange in 2012 to stay at Vidanta's Grand Luxxe...it's still the best TS we've stayed in.

Last year, we did a short stay at Marriott's Maui Ocean Club on Maui. In 2 weeks we're headed to Marriott's Kauai Beach Club on a short stay.

You can check short stay exchanges at anytime. I see Marriotts and Sheratons in Orlando available between now and October.

 

[dekeblack]

Thanks.
So in the overbuilt, is it overbuilt Marriotts in Orlando?
I go to Orlando often.

I use short stays a lot for Orlando. I mostly do Marriotts, and have done a short stay for a lot of them. I have seen a DVC for a short stay, but it was shortly after Disney moved back to II and there was a lot of Disney availability (not a lot of availability in short stays, but a lot of availability in exchanges). I have not seen DVC in short stays for quite a while, even if the unit is within a couple days of check-in on the exchange side.

 

[claraj]

Last year, we did a short stay at Marriott's Maui Ocean Club on Maui. In 2 weeks we're headed to Marriott's Kauai Beach Club on a short stay.

What were the approximate per night rate for these short stays in Hawaii? I'm curious to know. Whenever I've searched for a short stay (not Hawaii), the price always seemed not worth it vs a week Getaway for the same location.

 

[GrayFal]

Random date in September (5 nights. Marriotts and Sheratons.

 

[GrayFal]

Also saw Grande Vista, Harbor Lakes, Royal and Sabal Palms.

It would be a good deal for you.

 

[dekeblack]

What were the approximate per night rate for these short stays in Hawaii? I'm curious to know. Whenever I've searched for a short stay (not Hawaii), the price always seemed not worth it vs a week Getaway for the same location.

The short stay I use is the Short Stay Exchange - which is trading my 7 night week for two stays (ranging from 1 to 6 nights). So I can book up to 12 nights for my 7 night deposit. It's not the Short Stay Getaways... as I found the same thing in that it usually is not a value compared to the full getaway (and for the units I want, the getaway is not always a value compared to a straight exchange). I like the Short Stay Exchange, but it is best for places like Orlando that have a lot of availability.

 

[claraj]

@dekeblack that makes sense. Sorry for my confusion!

 

[dioxide45]

Also remember that ShortStay exchange has different exchange fees than a regular exchange and they don't qualify for any kind of discounting like Marriott to Marriott/Vistana or Vistana to Vistana/Marriott. You also have to pay the exchange fee twice to book both parts of the short stay to use your whole week. You can get more than a week out of two ShortStays though. I also suspect that much of what is available under ShortStay may also be available in Getaway inventory. So check getaways also as it may be cheaper to book a getaway vs the all in cost of your ShortStay exchange.

 

[chriskre]

Also saw Grande Vista, Harbor Lakes, Royal and Sabal Palms.

It would be a good deal for you.

Thanks. I didn't realize they had cash short stays too.
I was thinking they only did the 6 night short stay exchanges.
This is even better. Hmmmm.

 

[chriskre]

Also remember that ShortStay exchange has different exchange fees than a regular exchange and they don't qualify for any kind of discounting like Marriott to Marriott/Vistana or Vistana to Vistana/Marriott. You also have to pay the exchange fee twice to book both parts of the short stay to use your whole week. You can get more than a week out of two ShortStays though. I also suspect that much of what is available under ShortStay may also be available in Getaway inventory. So check getaways also as it may be cheaper to book a getaway vs the all in cost of your ShortStay exchange.

I don't own a Marriott yet but was thinking to pick up a 2 bedroom lock off biennial to do trading and split it up into short stays to get 4 weeks out of it.
My CMV UDI was downgraded and isn't seeing what it used to see so it's being kicked to the curb. LOL

Do you know if II would throw in an AC as well that would see anything worth picking up in possibly Ocean Pointe?
I do want to also try to get a unit at either Crystal Shores or Oceana Palms every other year with 1 side of the unit.

I go off season so hopefully will be able to do that with the Marriott preference.
I have been able to get into Oceana Palms but not CS with my CMV until recently.

Maybe I should just upgrade and look at the short stay rentals like you suggest.
Seems these exchange companies are taking the inventory for rentals anyway.
RCI had so much for rent that was cheaper than doing an exchange when I looked this past week it's not worth it
with them so wondering if II is following their playbook.

Thanks for your suggestions.
BTW, loving your channel.

 

[chriskre]

I use short stays a lot for Orlando. I mostly do Marriotts, and have done a short stay for a lot of them. I have seen a DVC for a short stay, but it was shortly after Disney moved back to II and there was a lot of Disney availability (not a lot of availability in short stays, but a lot of availability in exchanges). I have not seen DVC in short stays for quite a while, even if the unit is within a couple days of check-in on the exchange side.

Thanks.
Seems they've tweaked things so much lately that nothing is reliable with exchanges.
Thank God for TUG. LOL

 

[GrayFal]

Thanks. I didn't realize they had cash short stays too.
I was thinking they only did the 6 night short stay exchanges.
This is even better. Hmmmm.

They can be 2-6 day getaways. And everyone can buy them not just gold/plat

 

[chriskre]

They can be 2-6 day getaways. And everyone can buy them not just gold/plat

Thanks. Good to know. I guess I need to start looking more at the getaways. I didn't realize they did 2 nights.

 

[dioxide45]

Back when they started ShortStay getaways we tried them out. They had a big sale and we scored a couple Marriott studios for under $100 each.

 

[dioxide45]

I don't own a Marriott yet but was thinking to pick up a 2 bedroom lock off biennial to do trading and split it up into short stays to get 4 weeks out of it.
My CMV UDI was downgraded and isn't seeing what it used to see so it's being kicked to the curb. LOL

Do you know if II would throw in an AC as well that would see anything worth picking up in possibly Ocean Pointe?
I do want to also try to get a unit at either Crystal Shores or Oceana Palms every other year with 1 side of the unit.

Not sure if this is what you are asking about, but we are sometimes offered an AC for deposit of our Grande Vista weeks.

Ocean Pointe and Oceana Palms are relatively easy trades to make. Ocean Pointe is easier than Oceana Palms mainly because Ocean Pointe is larger and has 1BR and Studio units.

 

[CPNY]

I don't own a Marriott yet but was thinking to pick up a 2 bedroom lock off biennial to do trading and split it up into short stays to get 4 weeks out of it.
My CMV UDI was downgraded and isn't seeing what it used to see so it's being kicked to the curb. LOL

Do you know if II would throw in an AC as well that would see anything worth picking up in possibly Ocean Pointe?
I do want to also try to get a unit at either Crystal Shores or Oceana Palms every other year with 1 side of the unit.

I go off season so hopefully will be able to do that with the Marriott preference.
I have been able to get into Oceana Palms but not CS with my CMV until recently.

Maybe I should just upgrade and look at the short stay rentals like you suggest.
Seems these exchange companies are taking the inventory for rentals anyway.
RCI had so much for rent that was cheaper than doing an exchange when I looked this past week it's not worth it
with them so wondering if II is following their playbook.

Thanks for your suggestions.
BTW, loving your channel.

I have done a few short stay getaways in Orlando and I booked Sheraton Resort, Villages, and Grand Vista. I check frequently and lately ive seen a lot of studios at grand vista. You will be able to get some 2 bedrooms at Marriotts and sheratons. Ive also seen prices vary. Last I checked was a few weeks back for a late April early may check in and the prices were only slightly less than the full week getaway.

In regards to your purchase plan of a Marriott resale. If you're looking to exchange into Florida locations you can always look or a Grand Vista unit that's in the Florida Club. Only issue here is if you want to exchange into DVC. There are no DVC exchanges with Orlando ownerships. If you're mostly exchanging into Orlando, have you thought of an independent like The Colonies? You can likely pull some really nice inventory with a 4 bedroom unit. You won't be paying any lock off fees like you will with a Marriott and the Maint fee is much less. You will sacrifice Marriott priority in II but that may not be a big deal depending on where you're trying to exchange into.

 

[GrayFal]

I have done a few short stay getaways in Orlando and I booked Sheraton Resort, Villages, and Grand Vista. I check frequently and lately ive seen a lot of studios at grand vista. You will be able to get some 2 bedrooms at Marriotts and sheratons. Ive also seen prices vary. Last I checked was a few weeks back for a late April early may check in and the prices were only slightly less than the full week getaway.

In regards to your purchase plan of a Marriott resale. If you're looking to exchange into Florida locations you can always look or a Grand Vista unit that's in the Florida Club. Only issue here is if you want to exchange into DVC. There are no DVC exchanges with Orlando ownerships. If you're mostly exchanging into Orlando, have you thought of an independent like The Colonies? You can likely pull some really nice inventory with a 4 bedroom unit. You won't be paying any lock off fees like you will with a Marriott and the Maint fee is much less. You will sacrifice Marriott priority in II but that may not be a big deal depending on where you're trying to exchange into.

She's a Marriott girl

 

[LMD]

I recently used short stay exchange . I booked 4 nights in Orlando for one trip and 6 nights in Orlando for a second trip. Vistana for the first and Marriott Harbour Lakes for the second. The MF for the week I used went up ALOT so at least I felt like I was getting more out of it!

 

[noreenkate]

I use short stays a lot for Orlando. I mostly do Marriotts, and have done a short stay for a lot of them. I have seen a DVC for a short stay, but it was shortly after Disney moved back to II and there was a lot of Disney availability (not a lot of availability in short stays, but a lot of availability in exchanges). I have not seen DVC in short stays for quite a while, even if the unit is within a couple days of check-in on the exchange side.

Granted I am still learning II and no idea if you can do a sort exchange but according to DVC - DVC shouldn't be showing up in getaways or short stay getaways- it’s in the DVC II paperwork that it’s exchanges only.

 

[CPNY]

Granted I am still learning II and no idea if you can do a sort exchange but according to DVC - DVC shouldn't be showing up in getaways or short stay getaways- it’s in the DVC II paperwork that it’s exchanges only.

I believe they were referencing seeing DVC in the Short Stay Exchanges not Getaways.

 

[noreenkate]

I believe they were referencing seeing DVC in the Short Stay Exchanges not Getaways.

Interesting now I gotta figure out how that’s done

 

[tschwa2]

If you are specifically looking for a short stay exchange and not a getaway, you can still search it yourself without upgrading. It will just indicate that you have to pay the upgrade fee to gold or platinum at the same time as paying the exchange fee if you want to go ahead with the booking. I once got two 6 night stays at Marriott Surf Club in early May (off season) with a single deposit which happened to be a late flexchange deposit on top of everything. Like a lot of II things, sometimes you can find gems but don't expect anything in really hard to get areas in prime time.