Port-O-Potties at WKORV-N

[nodge]

So here’s a law school hypothetical for you . . . . . .

Let’s say you paid a massive premium to buy an “ocean front” unit at WKORV-N at the developer price of $94,900 per week, and you didn’t wave your right to that “ocean front” unit by accidently making your reservation less than 8 months out or depositing it with an exchange company, etc., and the big day arrives for you to show up and enjoy all the benefits of that “ocean front” unit, and you open the curtains to view the ocean from your “ocean front” unit, and you find semi-permanent, and oh so lovely, port-o-potties resting between your “ocean front” unit and the actual ocean, . . . would you have a claim against SVO for breach of contract?

If not, would you still be upset with SVO for putting these “structures” (and their exhaust vents) only inches away from your “ocean front” patio that you paid a huge premium to enjoy, . . . . and wouldn’t that issue, in and of itself, prevent management from ever placing such monstrosities there?

Apparently not.

-nodge

 

[Ken555]

That is INSANE. Thank goodness I have a parking lot view!

I'm heading there in a few days, and will look out for this myself.

 

[Darwin]

:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

[DeniseM]

ewwwww.....

Nodge - where did you get that picture and what's the story???

 

[nodge]

Nodge - where did you get that picture and what's the story???

I took that picture with my very own camera last weekend. There was a big tent set up with local "artisans" selling local "art" (aka "hippie crafts") on the lawn between WKORV-N and the ocean. My guess is that someone thought they would need more potties than provided at the adjacent bar, so they shipped in the port-o-potties.

A permanent rope fence surrounds these port-o-potties, so my guess is that they are placed there pretty regularly as needed to accommodate the hippie craft shoppers' needs.

On the plus side, Clint Eastwood was filming a scene from his latest movie on the beach by WKORV-N during our stay, and he parked his SUV on the grass next to the grills by building 8. I was grilling away there one night and was wondering to myself what type of self-absorbed A.H. parks his SUV on the grass next to building 8 all day and how come security isn't doing something about it, and then good ol' Clint walked right past me, hopped in his SUV, and drove off.

Note to self: Always carry your camera with you, because you never know when Clint Eastwood will appear out of nowhere and drive off in his illegally parked SUV.

FWIW, word on the street among the other grillers is that Clint doesn't sign autographs. One fellow griller had even waited around the filming site for a break in the action, and he was shooed away by Clint himself. So we all agreed to not offer any hamburgers to Clint if he asked.

-nodge

 

[nodge]

Ooops. Duplicate entry deleted.

As long as I have this window open, I should point out that our 1 bedroom oceanfront (free upgrade no less) was beautiful. Hands down it was in the best shape of any SVO unit we had ever stayed in. If only we had had hot water in our villa for the last 24 hours of our trip, I would have thought that all of those high maintenance fees at WKORV-N were well worth it.

Practice pointer: If you lose hot water in your villa at WKORV-N and you call to ask wassup with that, and they tell you that there was a problem and it has been fixed and they are currently "reheating" the water and it will be back on in 20 minutes, and they say the same thing over and over again when you call at 5 pm, 8 pm, 11 pm and 8 am the next morning . . . . they are lying.

-nodge

 

[oneohana]

nodge,
was that your oceanfront villa on the left?

 

[califgal]

That is an entertaining story about Clint Eastwood Nodge!

 

[nodge]

nodge,
was that your oceanfront villa on the left?

The handicapper units are soooo much bigger and nicer than the regular ones. Hey, wait a minute, I think I now understand why my villa didn't have any hot water.

-nodge

 

[LisaRex]

What a lovely ocean front view you have. Well worth the $94k.

Maybe the lack of hot water was Starwood's method of being "green."

 

[Negma]

Nodge, when you said you were upgraded I was happy for you. The the picture showed up and I thought in an effort to go green you got the "port-a-potty with a view" and SVO was going to say this was an upgrade for the resort and your room.

 

[Captron]

What Starwood spin something? Noooooo!!!

 

[Twinkstarr]

Great view Nodge!

Do you think they have port o pottie views at Princeville also? I really want one. :hysterical:

 

[aeroflygirl]

Porta Potties at WKORV-N

We are at WKORV now. We saw the tents at North last weekend, but we didn't walk down that direction. We haven't seen any porta potties at the South end.

Anyone still here or arriving this week? We are staying through 1/30.

 

[Ken555]

The tents and local vendors are there every week, I believe (on Friday, if I recall correctly).

 

[Darwin]

All the vendors at WKORV plus alot more are usually at the Maui Community Center once a week for their show. A lot better selection and more options to spend you hard earned money on.

 

[Bwolf]

We are at WKORV now. We saw the tents at North last weekend, but we didn't walk down that direction. We haven't seen any porta potties at the South end.

Isn't that the correct end?

 

[jarta]

"local "artisans" selling local "art" (aka "hippie crafts") on the lawn"

Would the port-o-potties be acceptable if it was fresh fruit being sold or fine art being sold instead of "hippie crafts?"

Your questions raise the issue of what type of activities the resort should engage in as entertainment for the guests.

Or, maybe you mean that no activity that would be so popular with guests as to necessitate port-o-potties should be permitted.

Or, maybe you mean that all activities should be scheduled inside where the rest rooms are and not take advantage of the usually great Hawaiian weather.

Or, maybe you mean guests should just "hold it" until they find a rest room to avoid having port-o-potties at all.

Interesting questions raised by the posts. ... eom

 

[thheath]

"local "artisans" selling local "art" (aka "hippie crafts") on the lawn"

Would the port-a-potties be acceptable if it was fresh fruit being sold or fine art being sold instead of "hippie crafts?"

Your questions raise the issue of what type of activities the resort should engage in as entertainment for the guests.

Or, maybe you mean that no activity that would be so popular with guests as to necessitate port-a-potties should be permitted.

Or, maybe you mean that all activities should be scheduled inside where the rest rooms are and not take advantage of the usually great Hawaiian weather.

Or, maybe you mean guests should just "hold it" until they find a rest room to avoid having port-a-potties at all.

Interesting questions raised by the posts. ... eom

Activities like this are primarily to make money for the resort through table fees.

 

[jarta]

And, that provides revenue which helps keep down assessments a little.

Perhaps you would prefer that the resort not get those table fees and that nothing in the way of sales by outsiders be scheduled at the resort?

As I said, the posts raise interesting questions. ... eom

 

[gregb]

Whenever I have been there, there are often "select" vendors selling things at the resort. Mostly they don't have things I am interested in. But as long as they are not aggressively selling (and so far they are not) I don't have a problem with them being there. It may make a little money for the resort. But I believe they do it more to have some local atmosphere on the grounds for the guests, as well as community outreach. That is, it is a way for the resort to provide some support for local merchants and/or artisans. It might even be a part of the development plan they agreed to with the county to get the permits to build. Who knows?

The only complaint I might have is if the porta-potties are right outside my unit's lanai. Especially if they smell. That would be annoying and could ruin an otherwise wonderful experience.

My $0.02 worth.

Greg

 

[nodge]

. . Or, maybe you mean . . . .

I'm not hiding the ball here on what I mean.

1) If SVO charges a massive premium for an "ocean front" villa and then places semi-permanent port-o-potties between some of those villas and the ocean, it is probably violating its contractual obligations to those owners. And, even if it isn't, it is at least demonstrating very poor judgment and a complete lack of respect for those owners' rights. If SVO wants to "host events" on the lawn, it must do so without violating (or at least without disrespecting) the rights it specifically sold to owners.

2) Clint Eastwood drives an SUV that he can illegally park with impunity at WKORV-N, which by the way, his SUV was blocking the paid-for "ocean view" of the lower floor occupants in the north facing side of building 7 (units 69-74) for an entire day. But I guess it's still better to have a view of Clint Eastwood's SUV than a port-o-pottie, so those owners should consider themselves lucky. Then again, I bet Clint has hot water at his residence on Maui and no one would ever think of blocking his view there with a port-o-pottie or SUV, so he is probably the luckiest one of all here.

-nodge

 

[jarta]

Greg, ... The OP refers to the port-o-potties as "semi-permanent" and located only "inches" from the patio of an oceanfront owner.

You have been there before. And, you are going back in a few weeks.

Are the port-o-potties only there the day of the week when the sale happens? For the rest of the day/week are they removed?

The OP says they are surrounded by "a permanent rope fence." But, no rope fence shows in the picture. Was the OP inside the fence?

Where are they located in relation to the patios? (Anyway, in the posted photo behind the port-o-potties there appears to be a wall (maybe 5 feet behind the outhouses and between them and the building) that tops off slightly above the top of the port-o-potties. However, smell still could be a problem even if you couldn't see them.)

If you don't know where they are from memory, perhaps you could post when you get to WKROV-N. ... eom

 

[zinger1457]

I was there last week, upgraded to an ocean front room in building 8, we really enjoyed the resort. Saw the tent go up but didn't notice the port-o potties. Were they out only on the day the tent was up?

What's the policy (if any) with reserving lounge chairs by the pool? I'm an early riser and was out on my patio at ~7am reading the paper and having a cup of coffee and could see all these lounge chairs with towels and books on them, but no people around. Go out to the pool around 10am and many of the same chairs are reserved but still unoccupied. Seems like there should be a use or lose policy to be fair for everyone.

 

[DeniseM]

Supposedly, you can only reserve a lounge for a short while, but no one enforces it, and they are often saved for hours. If you complain to the pool shack, sometimes they will move stuff that's been there too long.